Help identify these tools


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keano44
February 5, 2013, 09:24 PM
Please help identify these tools. Who makes/made them? Are they still made? They are for lubing and sizing cast bullets, right? Anyone have the instructions that would have come with them?

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hueyville
February 5, 2013, 09:27 PM
Hand cast bullet swaging dies. Did I win a prize?

keano44
February 5, 2013, 10:03 PM
Ha! Thanks, but I was hoping for a little more than that.

FROGO207
February 5, 2013, 10:31 PM
There are so many brands/styles of them out there that unless you have the exact one it will be hard to ID the exact maker. From memory they look similar to Herters sizers from about the 1960's. But I would not bet the farm on that.:D

hueyville
February 5, 2013, 11:38 PM
Download the Lee instructions for this type of bullet size, so similar you will figure it out quick. I started with the Lee version of those and only took about two weeks to give up and buy a true lube/sizing press. Trying to melt lube into the pan with consistent heat and.depth,.cutting the bullets out of the pan, then whacking with a hammer way labor intensive. Still have quite a few sets but they sit quietly on a shelf and eat no hay.

ReloaderFred
February 6, 2013, 12:10 AM
Yes, they look like sizing dies, but not lubing dies. I couldn't see the numbers on the outside, which is most likely the diameter of the die. They probably work the same as the Lee push through sizing dies, only not press mounted.

You would lube the bullets with either a liquid lube, or pan lube them by setting them in melted lube until it cools, and then cutting them out with a "cookie cutter" type tool of the proper size. This process is a royal pain, and I gave it up about 1968, when I first tried it.

Hope this helps.

Fred

grumpy66
February 6, 2013, 03:36 AM
Gas check dies?

Is the larger one sharp, and tight?

Does the smaller one have some play and a groove around the top?

choppinlow
February 6, 2013, 09:35 AM
I have those same dies - they are for sizing cast bullets. Drop a cast bullet in, place the ram on top, and give it a whack with a wooden mallet. I have them for 44 and 357 and they were bought late 70s sometime give or take. Don't really remember where or manufacturer. I have been using other equipment to size for years, but that is what I bought those for originally.

keano44
February 6, 2013, 09:12 PM
Thanks to all.

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