Why Are All Of These Pulled Bullets For Sale?


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vtail
February 7, 2013, 04:08 PM
Here is something I've been wondering about for a while.

Why are all of these pulled bullets available?

Who is doing the pulling and why?

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bds
February 7, 2013, 04:21 PM
For the same reason why we pull bullets ... QC check "found something" with the finished loads? :D

Shadow 7D
February 7, 2013, 04:23 PM
Also demil'd military ammo

Cosmoline
February 7, 2013, 04:38 PM
There are sometimes huge lots of old surplus ammo that have been exposed to damp or worse, and got green or rusted. So to salvage some value you can pull the bullets.

ngnrd
February 7, 2013, 04:39 PM
I believe that one of Clinton's executive orders shut down the "surplussing" of live ammunition. But, the components can still be sold. So the live rounds that would otherwise have been surplussed are now broken down into their components and sold that way. The government gets some cash instead of having to pay for disposal of live ammo.

oldpapps
February 7, 2013, 10:26 PM
As I understand it, most is the results of unknown or questionable service ammunition being disposed of.
The government sells it off with the understanding that 'it' may not be safe and is of unknown or questionable origin (it was turned in after some mission and tracking data was misplaced). The buyer is required to break it down and can then sell off the component parts as scrap, bullets, powder and primed cases.

silicosys4
February 8, 2013, 03:34 AM
Uh....Where are all these pulled bullets for sale? Lol, I've been looking for some lately

Centurian22
February 8, 2013, 03:50 AM
Silicosy beat me to the exact same question. Lol

Xelera
February 8, 2013, 12:30 PM
http://www.gibrass.com/

He's out of stock now too, but has good prices on the bullets, powder, and brass when he does have it.

oldpapps
February 8, 2013, 01:14 PM
"Uh....Where are all these pulled bullets for sale?"

I would say the same place most all of the other components are, being stored away in some basement/work room/garage/shed until some powder or primers or brass can be found. Then it all will set around for a couple of years or longer and some will get loaded up....

My source was drying up last summer and I switched to MidwayUSA and they became hit or miss. Now ever place is sold out or charging an arm and leg when they dig some up. Time will tell!

mdi
February 8, 2013, 01:17 PM
I believe the "demilitarized ammo" is the correct answer. Military will pull bullets and sell components separately; brass, powder, bullets. I've purchased good powder from a surplus dealer.http://patsreloading.com/patsrel/prices.aspx?category=Powder

ArchAngelCD
February 8, 2013, 01:22 PM
Yeah, I think it was during the Clinton administration a law was passed where the military can't sell ammo but can sell the ammo to a company who will "demil" the ammo into components and they sell off those components. It's not great but better than nothing.

Ken70
February 8, 2013, 01:29 PM
I read someplace that samples of different lots of military ammo are tested for powder deterioration. If it's getting close to being no good, they pull it down. People that buy the surplus powder should use it for ammo they're going to use and not put in storage.

ArchAngelCD
February 8, 2013, 01:38 PM
I read someplace that samples of different lots of military ammo are tested for powder deterioration. If it's getting close to being no good, they pull it down. People that buy the surplus powder should use it for ammo they're going to use and not put in storage.
I have never heard of anyone who stored their surplus powder correctly having a bad batch. I know several reloaders who bought copious amounts of surplus powder in the 70's and they are still using that powder successfully. Their range notes tell a story of consistent velocities produced over a 40+ year span.

Ken70
February 8, 2013, 07:38 PM
I have never heard of anyone who stored their surplus powder correctly having a bad batch. I know several reloaders who bought copious amounts of surplus powder in the 70's and they are still using that powder successfully. Their range notes tell a story of consistent velocities produced over a 40+ year span.
This was the powder out of the pulled down ammo. I don't know about powder that was never used to make ammo. It probably has to do with your comment about being stored correctly; or not..

BYJO4
February 8, 2013, 08:33 PM
As others have said, these bullets are probably coming from old military ammo.

kingcheese
February 9, 2013, 08:50 AM
You also get bad "lots" of ammo that has to be broken down, so the company's will occasionally scrap the components, and selling them as pulldowns brings back the most money

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