What is the best replacement trigger for a Remington 700 hunting rifle (I'm looking at a desired pull weight of about 3 pounds) that is under $125? I know that Jewell trigger is the best you can buy, but I can justify spending >$200 right now on a trigger.
Would a $70 "Shilen Standard Trigger" on sale from Midway right now be a good buy? Or would I be better served by a Rifle Basix or Timney?
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March 9, 2004, 11:49 PM
If money is tight, why spend anything? The Remington trigger is completely adjustable. Instructions here (http://snipercountry.com/Articles/RemingtonTriggers.asp).
March 9, 2004, 11:57 PM
If you don't get any responses, my Shilen Standard will arrive in less than a week. I'll mess with it in the next month or so (weather permitting), and will compare it with the Jewell (which I have installed on my M700, .300 Win Mag). You should have some time before deer season opens to make your decision. Current Midway sale only saves you about $5.
Check out the ratings on Midway re: Timney & Rifle Basic -- they usually have some decent input from purchasers.
I don't know how many times I have bought the cheaper product and subsequently purchased the one that was "too expensive".
Final thought $125 + $75 = $200. $75 = a decent meal for three at a moderately priced restaurant. Jewell Trigger is for life.
March 10, 2004, 12:09 AM
I'm not doggin you, but the "adjust it yourself" Remington trigger is not a viable alternative in my opinion. If you do it youself (been there done that), it won't be safe, and if you have a gunsmith do it (been there done that), it won't be what you want (and you'll still pay for it).
March 10, 2004, 12:10 AM
Come up with a few more bucks and get a Jewell.
March 10, 2004, 12:13 AM
Reminder...this is for a HUNTING gun.
March 10, 2004, 12:18 AM
And what better reason to make the best shot possible with the safest possible alternative available?
March 10, 2004, 12:24 AM
Dern it! Why do you guys reccomend such expensive toys!? :banghead:
March 10, 2004, 12:42 AM
I spent the money for the trigger on some rimfire stuff from Midway, so I guess I'm going to hold on on purchasing the trigger for a little while. Paul - I'm eagerly awaiting your update.
March 10, 2004, 12:43 AM
Take your gun to a gunsmith and have him adjust your trigger and be done with it.
March 10, 2004, 12:44 AM
Jewell has 2 different weight ranges available. The heavier of the two is my preferred for most rifles. You can still adjust it down under a pound, IIRC.
March 10, 2004, 12:48 AM
I'm in the same boat as you. I have a gorgeous early Model 700 Custom Deluxe, with one of the most horrible triggers I've ever tried. I've worked with my other 700's, including a 700 PSS, and they've all adjusted nicely. Not this one, something's wrong inside the trigger group, crunchy and springy before it finally breaks. I *could* send the gun back to Remington for some work, but they're gonna send it back to me with a lawyer-proof heavy late-model trigger, perhaps with some extra safety bits. So I'm looking for a clean-breaking, 2-4 pound trigger, that uses the standard Model 700 safety. I've had good luck with the Timneys, Dayton-Traisters, and Canjars I've installed on my Mausers, so chances are they'll work well in the Remington versions. I'll be darned if I'm gonna put a Jewell in my woodswalking deer rifle, unless they make one that isn't just a no-safety benchrest model. Jewell doesn't maintain a really visible web presence, so I'll have to check my Brownell's catalog, maybe they came out with a hunter version since last I looked.
March 10, 2004, 12:49 AM
"I spent the money for the trigger on some rimfire stuff from Midway, so I guess I'm going to hold on on purchasing the trigger for a little while. Paul - I'm eagerly awaiting your update."
Enjoy the rimfire stuff -- it's my favorite.
I'll give you a comparison Shilen vs. Jewell -- it may take a month or so but I'll update you.
March 10, 2004, 12:51 AM
I'll be darned if I'm gonna put a Jewell in my woodswalking deer rifle, unless they make one that isn't just a no-safety benchrest model. Jewell offers 2 different weight ranges of triggers with the safety.
March 10, 2004, 12:55 AM
Check the Jewell options -- they definitely make the hunting model - 1.5 oz to 4.5 lbs with/without safety, bolt release. http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=44JW
March 10, 2004, 12:57 AM
damn Tech, we're pretty much in sync here -- do you do the stock market?
March 10, 2004, 01:02 AM
Cool! Sorry about the $200 missing from the tax return, Momma, but Daddy's going after whitetail with a Jewell-triggered 700 BDL Custom Deluxe this fall! Thanks, Paul! :D
March 10, 2004, 01:14 AM
These are the best prices I have found for Jewell triggers. Bruno Shooters Supply http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=BSS&Category_Code=44JW.
If anyone has a vender with better prices, please advise.
March 10, 2004, 01:38 AM
I've had good luck with the Timney triggers. No complaints here.
March 10, 2004, 03:39 AM
Suggest you adjust the trigger first. Remington was noted for good adjustable triggers but won't give instructions anymore because of liability. Check out the instructions craigz provides.
March 10, 2004, 10:39 AM
FWIW, the Jewell benchrest trigger for the Finnfire is the exact same trigger as the HVR trigger - except the HVR comes with a set of light/medium/heavy springs to let you adjust it from 1.5 ounces to 4.5 pounds. So sayeth Mr. Jewell. I got curious about this after I bought one of each. I'd guess the BR and HVR triggers for the Rems are also the same on the inside.
An ounce-and-a-half...I'm forever spoiled.
March 10, 2004, 11:34 AM
Remington was noted for good adjustable triggers but won't give instructions anymore because of liability. Hmmmph... If I was injured after adjusting my trigger, I'd sue them for not giving me the proper instructions. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. This doesn't protect them, it just irritates people looking for instructions. Duh.
March 19, 2004, 01:25 PM
Midway USA currently has a sale on their Shilen Remington 700 triggers, $59.95, so I bit the hook and bought one. I'm used to Timneys and Canjars in my other rifles, so I was really curious how this Shilen would look and perform.
I had no reason to worry. The fit and finish of the Shilen unit is impressive, it makes a Timney look cheap and sloppy in comparison. My 700 BDL Custom now has a crisp, clean 2-pound trigger with a minimum of take-up and overtravel. The original safety works just like it did, locking the bolt in safe mode.
I can't wait to take the gun out and group it again, now that it has a decent trigger. It grouped pretty well with the heavy, crunchy factory trigger. It can only get better... :D
March 25, 2004, 10:24 PM
Have you been able to perform any formal/informal accuracy testing yet?
March 26, 2004, 12:21 AM
Wait, does everyone here really buy and use their guns based on who they can sue if they shoot their toe off? Who are you going to sue if the Jewell is adjusted too light? I think rem will say you voided their warranty.
I followed the instructions (as posted by craigz) for my PSS, and could hardly be happier. A tad of stoning, or another 500 trigger presses, will make it perfect. The instructions are very good, and include the check steps to make sure it doesn't slam fire and so on.
On a related note, just last weekend a friend was a the range with his [custom trigger] in his AR. Durn if it won't dent Barnul primers quite enough with some regularity. What sorta perdicyment is that if he didn't function check his house rifle? Pre-adjusted drop-in: too risky for me.
March 26, 2004, 12:42 AM
Have you been able to perform any formal/informal accuracy testing yet?
And the gales from the North settle down a bit, I'll be heading out to the range for some 100 and 200 yard target work. The 700 BDL grouped between 1 - 1.5" at 100 yards before the new Shilen trigger. I'm optimistic things will settle down now.
March 26, 2004, 07:04 AM
actually most of the drop-ins are not preadjusted; you do it yourself and tinker with it until it suits your needs.
March 26, 2004, 08:14 AM
The 700 trigger is pretty good once it's adjusted from the factory "lawyer" setting. Certainly good enough for hunting.
Just test the function of the safety, etc, to make sure it's working. Then don't depend on the safety - depend on the rules.
As far as shooting your toe off, well, don't do that. :)
March 26, 2004, 10:34 AM
I have Remington 700's where the trigger adjusted nicely. If you read the thread above, I bought the Shilen trigger because one of my 700's wouldn't adjust like it was supposed to, something was internally wrong, and I didn't feel like drilling out the rivets to work on it, nor did I want to send a 1971-vintage rifle back to Remington for trigger work. Hence, the Shilen.
March 26, 2004, 11:22 AM
I am very pleased with the Shilen trigger in my 700 PSS. I would strongly recommend it. A 3 shot group at 100 from 2 weeks ago (300 RUM, 700 PSS). For the reloaders out there: 180 grain Accubond, 99.5 grains of Retumbo, over the chrony at 3361, extreme spread 9 fps for those 3 shots.