Victor Special 12-gauge single shot


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CajunMan89
February 8, 2013, 06:24 PM
I've recently acquired a Victor Special 12-gauge single shot shotgun from my uncle. I'd like to know more about it such as date of manufacture, company history, etc.


As far as I know, there is no serial number on the gun, only assembly numbers, which all match. On the left side above the trigger, it has "Victor Special The Crescent Firearms Co. Norwich Conn." On the same side below the hammer, it has a 12 with a G inside of a diamond. On the barrel, it has "Genuine Armory Steel"

Those are all of the markings that I see on the gun.

I believe that this gun is an ejector style gun.

Any information on this gun will be greatly appreciated.

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Onmilo
February 9, 2013, 10:16 AM
Crecent made guns under their own name as well as producing guns for all kinds of sporting gun retailers and hardware stores.
Genuine Armory Steel indicates the gun is made for smokeless powder shells but I would stay with loads no heavier than 3 1/4 dram equivilent 1 1/8ounce field loads, Trap and Skeet shells would be another good choice.
Steels were nowhere nears a good as they are now and these guns will wear very quickly with heavy loads as well as the single shot guns being not very pleasant to shoot with heavier loads.

These guns are not uncommon, many thousands and thousands were made and the stocks also have a habit of cracking at the wrist with hard use. HTH

CajunMan89
February 24, 2013, 11:33 PM
Is there any type of paperwork on these guns (manuals, parts list) available?

Onmilo
February 25, 2013, 11:04 AM
This is what Gun Parts Inc. offers for the Victor line. HTH
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Crescent-33192/Victor-35855.htm

Z71
February 25, 2013, 11:08 AM
Check the chamber length on the old Crescents...some of these had short chambers...will take a modern 2 3/4" shell...but not enough room for the shell to unfold. May require 2.5" ammo.

The Crescent made guns are budget made firearms for the most part...probably cost just a few dollars when new.

Later Crescent did make some better grade shotguns...but still not in the same quality level as say Parker or Fox..Savage, Remington, Winchester.

It's a poor-boy shotgun...I would check it out carefully before using it!

CajunMan89
February 25, 2013, 05:34 PM
Thanks for the info. and link! I'll measure the chamber and post it asap.


If there is any other type of info. online, please post a link. I'd like to know if there is a copy online of a manual, sale catalog, etc. available for this gun.

Two Old Dogs
February 26, 2013, 01:40 PM
The Victor Special was a trade name on shotguns made by Crescent Fire Arms Company of Norwich Conn., a subsidiary of H. & D. Folsom Arms Company of New York and manufactured for the Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett and Company of Chicago. The time frame is 1893-1930.

Cornell Publications offers reprints of old gun manuals and catalogs and may have something on Crescent or Folsom: http://www.cornellpubs.com/.

CajunMan89
February 28, 2013, 11:18 PM
From just looking at the file previews of the prints, I couldn't tell if any of the prints they offer on that site pertain to my specific shotgun.

I'm still searching online hoping to find a PDF file of anything that has to do with my specific gun.


Thanks for the link though!

CajunMan89
March 16, 2013, 09:13 PM
Check the chamber length on the old Crescents...some of these had short chambers...will take a modern 2 3/4" shell...but not enough room for the shell to unfold. May require 2.5" ammo.

The Crescent made guns are budget made firearms for the most part...probably cost just a few dollars when new.

Later Crescent did make some better grade shotguns...but still not in the same quality level as say Parker or Fox..Savage, Remington, Winchester.

It's a poor-boy shotgun...I would check it out carefully before using it!
I checked out the chamber today, and it is chambered for 2 3/4 inch shells. I shot 6-7 shells with it today and it worked great! Probably the first time it was shot in at least 60 years! I finished re-bluing it and fixed the forearm wood. I had to drill two holes through the wood and put some counter-sink type screws on it to hold it together. There was not enough wood left inside for the scrending out the year of manufacturews to hold it securely to the iron. I'll have to keep checking Numrich to see if they ever get any more in, but for now, it's in pretty good shape considering how it was when I got it. Now if only I could get more info on it.....I wish there would be a way of finding out the year of manufacture and get some type of schematic or owner's manual, but given the age of the weapon, I assume it would be a long shot. At least I was able to get a little info on it!

CajunMan89
March 19, 2013, 08:15 PM
Anyone have any idea if this is the original butt plate for this gun? What could the H F stand for?

http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/CajunMan89/media/P1010394_zpsa4a3d331.jpg.html#/user/CajunMan89/media/P1010394_zpsa4a3d331.jpg.html?&_suid=1363734691473018828744304895434

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