(LAPD) Cops use suppressors?


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Habeed
February 8, 2013, 09:35 PM
While viewing a story about Jordan Dorner on Commie News Network, I noticed a slide show showing a pair of officers patrolling the street.

It's slide 6 at this page.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/us/lapd-attacks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130207195612-05-california-manhunt-0207-horizontal-gallery.jpg

Anyways, unless my eyes deceive me...those carbines have cans on them. Is this standard? Why do they use them?

Also, it looks like the officer on the left has the magazine in the weapon (and it appears to be a 30 rounder!) and the officer on the right appears to be holding the mag in his hand. The cop on the right also has what looks like a fairly high magnification scope.

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Carter
February 8, 2013, 09:38 PM
Tactical teams get all the niffty toys. Thats not that odd. However, he does need to adjust his armor. Its hanging a little low.

Habeed
February 8, 2013, 09:41 PM
The suspect they are after is using some kind of carbine. He might also have a fifty cal. Anyways, that body armor doesn't look like it could be better than level III, which will not stop 5.56 or 7.62, would it. Does body armor like that even help if the opponent is using weapons that go through it? I remember from my military days that those flak jackets we would wear would supposedly make getting shot by a 7.62 round less survivable, not more.

BK
February 8, 2013, 09:47 PM
Why do they use them?
Seriously? All LEO should use suppressors. All gun owners should use suppressors.

Sam1911
February 8, 2013, 09:51 PM
It isn't common, yet, but sure! All shooters should use suppressors if they can. So much safer for the hearing of the officers and anyone around them when they discharge their weapons.

12gaugeTim
February 8, 2013, 09:55 PM
I can't cite any sources on this, but I've heard in suppressor friendly countries, not using a suppressor is considered rude because it necessitates hearing protection for everyone else. There is way too big of a negative connotation on suppressors in America.

NHCraigT
February 8, 2013, 10:02 PM
I just got a BATFE stamp last week for another suppressor.

Once you use one, there is just no going back to "not" using one.

Less muzzle flip too = better target reacquisition.

thepumpfaction
February 8, 2013, 10:33 PM
They don't want to scare the sheeple.

DMK
February 8, 2013, 10:33 PM
Why do they use them? It reduces the sonic and visual signature of a gun firing. Flash and loud noise are unwanted byproducts of firing a gun, especially in any sort of tactical situation.

Jenrick
February 8, 2013, 10:35 PM
If IRC LAPD actually approved them and even started issuing them after several law suits over hearing loss occurred in CA (I don't recall if LAPD was one of the agencies sued).

Habeed: If his plate carriers has III or IV rifle plates they WILL stop 5.56 and 7.62 (either x39 or x51). Soft armor is level IIIA and is not rifle rated hard plate III is rifle rated.

-Jenrick

Gordon
February 8, 2013, 10:37 PM
Any armor lessens the terminal effect of a bullet some FWIW.

-v-
February 8, 2013, 10:59 PM
But, agreed. With the plate over the guy's stomach, that leaves an awful lot of lung, aorta, and heart exposed to gun fire.

BHP FAN
February 9, 2013, 12:22 AM
it's better if you try not to get shot.

Twiki357
February 9, 2013, 01:57 AM
According to the caption on the pic (#6) it's San Diego Harbor Police not the LAPD.

JohnBiltz
February 9, 2013, 02:36 AM
I've heard they are a lot safer in a meth lab, all those explosive fumes. Don't know how true that is.

Jay Kominek
February 9, 2013, 02:46 AM
I've heard they are a lot safer in a meth lab, all those explosive fumes.

They can certainly have explosive fumes in them. I'd sure take anything which contained the super hot blast from my rifle even a little bit.

Ragnar Danneskjold
February 9, 2013, 06:19 AM
There's a lot things to criticize about the LAPD and their recent behavior, but their use of suppressors is not one of them. Yeah, most civilians can't own them and that's wrong. But they're still good for anyone to have. We should be looking for more ways to restore our own right to have suppressors, not strip the right from others.

And that vest does look low. Assuming it's plate carrier, the top of the plate might not be even covering his heart. He needs to bring it up 2 or 3 inches to really use that plate effectively.


\Sadly, most military and police don't know how to use most of the gizmos and gear we're issued, and can't even be bothered to learn.

Gaiudo
February 9, 2013, 09:04 AM
Yeah, most civilians can't own them and that's wrong

Really? I wonder if it's correct that a sum majority of civilians can't own suppressors.

Akita1
February 9, 2013, 09:09 AM
you can with the right paperwork (local LEO approval, Class III or NFA trust in FL).

berettaprofessor
February 9, 2013, 11:31 AM
Too bad them suppressors don't need to be removed when the officers go to the can....otherwise we might hear of a few turning up missing:D

Jenrick
February 9, 2013, 11:34 AM
Even with all your class III ducks in a row, you can't own them in Cali I believe.

-Jenrick

Cesiumsponge
February 9, 2013, 12:59 PM
I've heard they are a lot safer in a meth lab, all those explosive fumes.

I'm not sure how true that is? I recall this story, where they used a flashbang in a suspected meth lab. That seems contrary to the idea that meth labs are volatile and explosive.

http://billingsgazette.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/grenade-burns-sleeping-girl-as-swat-team-raids-home/article_8bc67054-464d-5951-a5a1-003d4ed02d99.html

Jenrick
February 9, 2013, 05:29 PM
Reading the article it's only the home owner who says that the residence was considered a meth lab.

To my knowledge I know of no agency that would go with flash bangs, explosive, or ballistic breaching on a suspected active meth lab. Depending on the method of cooking, the atmosphere inside the lab can be anything from low oxygen, to flammable, to down right explosive.

-Jenrick

Blackstone
February 9, 2013, 05:55 PM
I've always found it funny that it's easier to get a suppressor in my great country

HorseSoldier
February 9, 2013, 07:28 PM
(LAPD) Cops use suppressors?

As a point of clarification, I notice that the CNN caption says they are San Diego Harbor Police.

Interesting that the guy on the left appears to have a suppressor and a nice gun light on a carbine with no optics fitted.

BSA1
February 9, 2013, 07:43 PM
Those bright gold colored patch and badge the officers are wearing on their left breast make a nice target for a sniper as they are covering the heart.

Dnaltrop
February 9, 2013, 07:45 PM
Good way to reduce Workmen's comp / Disability claims for hearing loss.

Jenrick
February 9, 2013, 08:21 PM
HorseSoldier: Could be agency policy that a department rifle may not be modified, or has to use iron sights. Law Enforcement has never let progress interfere with tradition.

BSA1: As far as big gigantic super shiny badges, double the last sentence above. I've for a long time thought that using a cloth badge with one angle luminescence would be a much smarter idea.

-Jenrick

-v-
February 9, 2013, 10:09 PM
Could be that the guy simply (gasp!) prefers irons over optics...

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