CCW Action and Trigger Pull


PDA






KentuckyBlue
February 9, 2013, 03:07 PM
What would be your recommendations for type of action on a 9mm used for concealed carry i.e. SA, DA, DA/SA, etc., etc. and what trigger pull weight?

If you enjoyed reading about "CCW Action and Trigger Pull" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
JTQ
February 9, 2013, 03:39 PM
Here is another thread on the same subject.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7885654#post7885654

Forum member Shipwreck has a well thought out response at post #13.

Sam1911
February 9, 2013, 03:51 PM
Yup, that's a great thread on this exact subject.

ku4hx
February 9, 2013, 04:15 PM
There are all manner of opinions that support all kinds of comments. To say that there is only one type of appropriate action, trigger pull or what have you is denying an individual's unique needs. What one man opines as the best for him may not be the best for someone else. The variables are just far to complex and manifold to suggest otherwise and be able to prove conclusively.

Over the years I've acquired way too many of basically every action out there. My grown children have been the recipients of many of these guns lately and they are facing the same decision you are. Each of them has the opportunity to become familiar with many different type guns. I know them well and I can truthfully say it is very unlikely they will pick the same type, make, model, action or caliber. The same hold true for my wife (who is most vocal about it) and has been cussed and discussed on every forum I've ever been a member of. And to my knowledge the "issue" has never been settled.

9mmepiphany
February 9, 2013, 05:03 PM
That is a very good thread and well worth the read.

My personal recommendations often depend on the size of the gun in question and the skill level of the user. Usually I tend to recommend a true DA trigger as the size of the gun get smaller...think Kahr PM/P9.

I am more concerned with the smoothness of the trigger stroke than the weight of the trigger release. It is easier to shoot a 6-8 pound smooth trigger than a gritty 4 pound one

bigfatdave
February 9, 2013, 05:28 PM
I think you should become proficient with whatever type you personally like and then use that

NYGlock
February 9, 2013, 05:51 PM
Personally I would avoid SA for legal reasons if ever actually involved in a shooting. I prefer striker fired but would have no problem with a good DA/SA. I don't care for DAO except in snubbie - don't enjoy practicing with DAO semiautos. But in the end, whatever you practice with the most and that becomes second nature to you is probably best. That's why I like my Glocks and my M&P40 shield. They're fun at the range (resulting in lots of practice) and are easy to carry.

psyopspec
February 10, 2013, 09:49 PM
Personally I would avoid SA for legal reasons if ever actually involved in a shooting. I prefer striker fired but would have no problem with a good DA/SA.

I also happen to prefer striker fired out of my own preference. However, if I were accurate and consistent with an SA pistol I would go with that. Since that is undoubtedly the case for some of the readers of the thread, can you say more on you thoughts on SA? Is there a legal precedent to "avoid SA for legal reasons?"

chris in va
February 10, 2013, 11:11 PM
There's no precedent for SA triggers for citizen/civilian use.

NYGlock
February 11, 2013, 05:58 PM
My concerns are simply around how trial lawyers present the facts of the case surrounding a shooting, whether it is justified or not. SA trigger pull is lighter and could raise questions of negligence, especially in a civil case. Whereas if a DAO S&W snubbie goes off, there is little question that it was intentional. There may not be any precedent for this - I would think any good trial attorney would not let the action type of a pistol prevent them from introducing negligence into the argument if they thought it would help their case - just consider how little most non-gun owners know about pistols. There was a letter to the editor in the Albany Times Union today on how absurd it is to let all of the civilians have automatic weapons...:banghead:

Fremmer
February 11, 2013, 08:01 PM
I'm going to respectfully suggest that a sa vrs da is totally irrelevant when a firearm is used lawfully for self defense. Because you did intend to present the weapon, and you did intend to pull the trigger. Otherwise, you're not claiming the affirmative defense of self defense.

NYGlock
February 11, 2013, 10:37 PM
You are probably correct. I would be more concerned about civil action where it is about perception of negligence rather than self defense.

easyg
February 12, 2013, 12:26 AM
I prefer a consistent trigger pull, from the 1st shot to the last shot.
I despise a DA/SA pistol.

I also recommend carrying in a holster, ALWAYS!.

If you enjoyed reading about "CCW Action and Trigger Pull" here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!