Wise up gunmakers and owners or lose!


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flyingfeathers
February 10, 2013, 06:13 PM
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flyingfeathers
February 10, 2013, 06:57 PM
I'm talking about the dark image that advertisers and the some of the gun community presents itself to those who may be fence sitting on the issue of gun ownership. it projects fear and gun obsession and not level-headed responsibility.

Sam1911
February 10, 2013, 07:05 PM
Wow, this is going nowhere good in an awful hurry.

To the OP, if you were a member before, contact one of the Administrators so we can get your account situation worked out. We don't want folks double-registering here.

Thanks!

hso
February 10, 2013, 07:50 PM
As a reminder, the posting requirements in Activism are stickied at the top of this forum.

Threads here should present an implementable plan of action in support of RKBA that other members can follow that is clearly presented with sufficient detail.

Opinions, polemics, and discussions directly related to Activism belong in Activism discussion, Legal, or General.

flyingfeathers,

We're pretty intolerant of the very behavior you're concerned about so exactly what do you propose that we at THR should do?

flyingfeathers
February 10, 2013, 07:58 PM
nothing. self-policing is the answer.

Texan Scott
February 10, 2013, 08:18 PM
Fudd argument.

Some of my guns are for hunting or target sports. Some will argue that some of my guns are specifically designed for use on human beings. I will agree with them. I will go as far as to admit that is why I own them, and that uninvited guests in my home at 2 am would be wise to remember as much.

I understand your point. I abhor violence, and I say that as a man who has carried out more of it than I care to remember or admit. That IS NOT something to be proud of, or to glorify... but if pushed to it, to defend myself and my loved ones from harm, I'd go there again. That's what those guns are for, and I won't apologize for it or be dishonest enough with myself or others to say it's not so.

Rancher5
February 10, 2013, 10:33 PM
I saw the beginning of this thread first thing came to mind is don't be lackadaisical in your Right to own Firearms, Be proactive ,now is the time to call you President,Congressman ,Sheriffs,Councilman, anybody that is in influence, News Papers,News Media, louder for gun rights the better, though be civil and informed, I have to many friends that are avid firearms enthusiast that haven't even called one Representative, Got to respond or the Anti crowd will win and have your firearms, Obama has nothing to loose if he makes a large percentage mad this time around, Now the biggest attack is coming from individual States implementing Laws, Fees are going to be big on this Gun ownership battle also since most Sates actively trying to restrict your use is out of money ,they will want fees, Stop it at the beginning or ? Facts support gun ownership, for less crime,free society, So stand up to our 2nd Amendment or loose it

DammitBoy
February 10, 2013, 10:36 PM
Well said Rancher. Not sure that's what the op meant - I think he doesn't like people who own EBR's?

Rancher5
February 10, 2013, 10:45 PM
Thanks I really hadn't a clue though living in Colo for 40 years, I never ever though they would restrict firearms as much as they are proposing this week,Colo use to be a very moral, family oriented State, with active gun clubs, Though most against Guns, know nothing but what the Media says, so being a liberal Media , I see no easy solution,But sitting around doing nothing is not an alternative, Sorry ,get myself all worked up. Whats an EBR? Lol

hso
February 10, 2013, 11:42 PM
This is what flyingfeathers originally said.
No doubt politicians took advantage of the school shootings to implement their designs of grabbing power. BUT, I have been disturbed for quite some time by the dark mentality of tactical gun manufacturers and owners with their commando in-the-dark, I'm-more-fierce-than-anything-seen-on-hollywood-screens delusions. Frankly, the man card ad campaign from Bushmaster was a marketing idea of the highest stupidity and childishness.Nno wonder the comapany's owners ran from it like the cowards and they are. We better wise up and GROW up and stop obsessing how 'bad' we are with our sophisticated gas pipes or face reprisals from those who would beat all firearms into plowshares or anything else.

The point I see him making is that the we've done ourselves an injury with the hype and advertising that pimps firearms and accessories with glorified violence. This helps Antis demonize us as being dangerous as we pretend to be dangerous and fantasize about being dangerous and posture as if we were in imitation of the hype.

My question stands, what do we do about it? How do we get advertisers to promote their products without the canographic prurient approach?

Sam1911
February 10, 2013, 11:59 PM
I'm not sure I see what he's seeing, so I don't know how to suggest anything. Are there AR manufacturers advertising their guns with corpses or blood? :scrutiny: Or with some reckless acts being portrayed? I haven't sen that.

I've seen a lot of ARs makers adverting that their wares are being used by service members in harsh environments and critical missions overseas. Or by law-enforcement or those interested in defending their homes. And a few highlight service rifle or 3-gun type competition. Those seem pretty realistic uses and reasonable things to advertise.

There was a big push toward "Zombie" themed goofiness especially in the last few years. Is that part of the OP's discomfort?

DammitBoy
February 11, 2013, 12:03 AM
No, he's hating on Evil Black Rifles and the advertising geared towards those that buy them with a macho operator theme.

blaisenguns
February 11, 2013, 12:19 AM
The point I see him making is that the we've done ourselves an injury with the hype and advertising that pimps firearms and accessories with glorified violence. This helps Antis demonize us as being dangerous as we pretend to be dangerous and fantasize about being dangerous and posture as if we were in imitation of the hype.


I see this point. To a point it is true, but the same is true of nearly everything. Sex, danger and violence sells. How many gun ads are there with a woman in a slinky dress holding a gun? More then there are showing how macho a guy is. We buy into it every day. The only thing you can do about it is NOT buy guns whose makers post ads you don't like, and contact them and tell them why you will no longer patronize them, but that wont happen.

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