reloading 40 SW


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gutterman
February 10, 2013, 07:23 PM
Can't find reloading info for lead reloads for the 40SW. Will probably be reloading 170 gr or 180 gr lead RN for plinking. Should I follow the JHP specs for these bullet weights, or is there somewhere else I need to look?

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rcmodel
February 10, 2013, 07:26 PM
If you load lead bullets for any caliber, you need a Lyman reloading manual.

Lyman #49 has load data for 13-14 different powders with two different 175-180 grain lead bullets.

And another 13 for 150-155 grain lead bullets.

rc

noylj
February 10, 2013, 10:05 PM
You can always use data for a heavier bullet as a starting place. Don't mix lead with jacketed data. Start with the lowest starting load you can find and work up carefully--this goes for all cartridges, but .40S&W is even more temperamental.
Maybe this will help:
Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Notes PowerFactor COL
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 231/HP38 4.3 796 Start 139 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 231/HP38 4.3 863 Start 151 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 231/HP38 4.8 950 166
L-SWC 175 231/HP38 4.9 967 169 1.140
L-SWC 175 231/HP38 5.0 1015 Start 178
L-FN 174 231/HP38 5.0 975 170
L-SWC 175 231/HP38 5.0 1017 178
L-SWC 175 231/HP38 5.0 1071 187
L-SWC 175 231/HP38 5.1 1054 184
L-SWC 175 231/HP38 5.5 1040 Max 182
L-FN 174 231/HP38 5.5 1037 180
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 231/HP38 5.8 970 Max 170 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 231/HP38 5.8 977 Max 171 1.125
L-FN 175 231/HP38 6.0 1096 192
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 3N37 5.8 918 Start 161 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 3N37 6.0 913 Start 160 1.125
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 3N37 6.5 1023 Max 179 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 3N37 6.7 1042 Max 182 1.125
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 800X 5.6 853 Start 149 1.125
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 800X 5.8 878 Start 154 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 800X 7.4 974 Max 170 1.125
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 800X 7.6 996 Max 174 1.100
Lead 175 AA2 4.1 833 Start 146
Lead 175 AA2 4.3 877 Max 153
L-SWC 170 AA2 4.7 930 Acc 158
MCB L-SWCBB 175 AA2 4.8 858 Start 150 1.115
Lead 175 AA2 4.8 894 Start 156 1.115
Bull-X L-SWC 175 AA2 5.0 907 159
L-SWC 175 AA2 5.0 990 173
LSWC 175 AA2 5.0 999 175
L-SWC 175 AA2 5.0 1000 175
L-RN 175 AA2 5.3 975 Max 171 1.115
MCB L-SWCBB 175 AA2 5.3 975 Max 171 1.115
L-SWC 175 AA2 5.5 1015 Max 178
L-SWC 175 AA5 5.5 868 Start 152
Lead 175 AA5 5.5 896 Start 157 1.115
L-SWC 175 AA5 5.9 Fav
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 AA5 6.0 844 Start 148 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 AA5 6.1 903 Start 158 1.125
L-SWC 175 AA5 6.1 986 Max 173 1.115
Lead 175 AA5 6.2 917 Start 160
Lyman 401043 175 AA5 6.5 860 151
L-FN 175 AA5 6.5 869 152
L-SWC 175 AA5 6.5 943 165
Bull-X Lead 175 AA5 6.6 900 158
Cast 175 AA5 6.7 1010 Max 177
L-SWC 175 AA5 6.7 1077 188
Lead 172 AA5 6.8 975 Start 168
Lyman 401043 175 AA5 6.8 920 161
Lead 175 AA5 6.9 1030 Max 180
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 AA5 6.9 1047 Max 183 1.100
L-RNFP 175 AA5 6.9 1066 Max 187
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 AA5 6.9 1066 Max 187 1.125
Bull-X Lead 175 AA5 6.9 960 168
L-FN 175 AA5 7.0 971 170
L-SWC 175 AA5 7.0 1028 180
Lead 172 AA5 7.5 1095 Max 188
Lead 175 AA7 7.5 823 Start 144
Lyman 401043 175 AA7 7.5 870 152
MCB L-SWCBB 175 AA7 7.6 892 Start 156 1.115
Lead 175 AA7 7.6 922 Start 161 1.115
Bull-X Lead 175 AA7 7.7 910 159
Lyman 401043 175 AA7 7.8 920 161
L-SWC 175 AA7 8.0 Fav
Bull-X Lead 175 AA7 8.0 940 165
Lyman 401043 175 AA7 8.1 950 166
Lead 175 AA7 8.3 925 Max 162
Bull-X Lead 175 AA7 8.3 970 170
L-SWC 175 AA7 8.3 1023 179
L-SWC 175 AA7 8.4 1014 Max 177
Lead 175 AA7 8.4 1014 Max 177 1.115
MCB L-SWCBB 175 AA7 8.4 1014 Max 177 1.115
L-SWC 175 AA7 8.5 938 164
L-FN 175 AA7 8.5 955 167
L-FN 175 AA7 9.0 1005 176
L-SWC 175 AA7 9.0 1019 178
L-SWC 175 AA7 9.0 1020 179
Cu P-SWC 175 AA7 9.3 1016 178 1.125
L-FN 175 AA7 9.5 1053 184
L-SWC 175 AA9 9.2 878 Start 154
Lead 175 AA9 9.2 908 Start 159 1.115
L-RN 175 AA9 9.2 Start 0
L-RN 175 AA9 10.2 998 Max 175 1.115
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Blue Dot 6.9 979 Start 171 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Blue Dot 7.3 897 Start 157 1.125
L-SWC 175 Blue Dot 7.5 1005 Start 176
L-FN 175 Blue Dot 7.5 937 164
L-SWC 175 Blue Dot 7.5 1004 176
L-SWC 175 Blue Dot 8.0 1065 Max 186
L-FN 175 Blue Dot 8.0 993 174
L-SWC 175 Blue Dot 8.0 1063 186
L-SWC 175 Blue Dot 8.3 1090 191
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Blue Dot 8.6 1059 Max 185 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Blue Dot 9.0 1123 Max 197 1.125
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Bullseye 4.0 654 Start 114 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Bullseye 4.2 665 Start 116 1.125
L-SWC 175 Bullseye 4.5 865 151
L-RNFP 177 Bullseye 4.6 883 156
Lyman L-TC 175 Bullseye 4.6
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Bullseye 5.0 842 Max 147 1.100
L-SWC 175 Bullseye 5.0 980 Max 172
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Bullseye 5.1 812 Max 142 1.125
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Clays 3.3 641 Start 112 1.100
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Clays 4.0 992 Max 174 1.100
L-CFP 175 Clays 4.2 800 Max 140
Lyman 401043 175 Herco 5.4 940 165
L-SWC 175 Herco 5.5 910 Start 159
Lyman 401043 175 Herco 5.8 980 172
L-SWC 175 Herco 5.9 1048 Max 183
L-SWC 175 Herco 6.0 1005 Max 176
L-FN 175 Herco 6.0 928 162
L-SWC 175 Herco 6.0 1004 176
L-FN 175 Herco 6.5 1013 177
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 6.5 890 156
Bull-X Lead 175 HS6 6.5 900 158
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 6.7 890 156
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 6.7 920 161
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 6.9 970 170
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 HS6 7.0 940 Start 165 1.125
L-CFP 175 HS6 7.0 976 Start 171
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 HS6 7.0 976 Start 171 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 HS6 7.0 976 Start 171
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 7.1 950 166
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 7.4 1010 177
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 7.6 1000 175
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 7.7 1060 186
Bull-X Lead 175 HS6 7.8 1070 187
L-SWC 175 HS6 7.8 1076 188
L-RNFP 175 HS6 8.2 1047 Max 183
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 HS6 8.2 1047 Max 183 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 HS6 8.2 1047 Max 183
L-CFP 175 HS6 8.4 1129 Max 198
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 HS6 8.4 1129 Max 198 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 HS6 8.4 1129 Max 198
Bull-X Lead 175 HS7 7.6 970 170
Bull-X Lead 175 HS7 7.9 1010 177
Bull-X Lead 175 HS7 8.3 1030 180
L-SWC 175 HS7 8.3 1063 186
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 N340 4.8 873 Start 153 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 N340 4.8 873 Start 153
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 N340 5.2 918 Start 161 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 N340 5.2 918 Start 161
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 N340 5.4 1008 Max 176 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 N340 5.4 1008 Max 176
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 N340 5.8 1038 Max 182 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 N340 5.8 1038 Max 182
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 N350 5.4 929 Start 163 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 N350 5.6 881 Start 154 1.125
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 N350 6.0 1033 Max 181 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 N350 6.2 1021 Max 179 1.125
Dillon 175 N350 6.7 1055 185 1.195
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Power Pistol 5.8 873 Start 153 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 Power Pistol 5.8 873 Start 153
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Power Pistol 5.9 908 Start 159 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 Power Pistol 5.9 908 Start 159
L-SWC 175 Power Pistol 6.2 1003 176 1.200
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Power Pistol 6.5 996 Max 174 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 Power Pistol 6.5 996 Max 174
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Power Pistol 6.6 998 Max 175 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 Power Pistol 6.6 998 Max 175
L-SWC 175 Power Pistol 6.6 1062 186 1.200
Lead 175 Silhouette 6.1 955 Start 167
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Silhouette 6.1 955 Start 167 1.100
Lead 175 Silhouette 6.5 1015 Max 178
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Silhouette 6.5 1015 Max 178 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 True Blue 6.3 957 Start 167 1.125
Lead 175 True Blue 6.3 960 Start 168
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 True Blue 6.3 960 Start 168 1.100
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 True Blue 7.0 1040 Max 182 1.125
Lead 175 True Blue 7.0 1041 Max 182
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 True Blue 7.0 1041 Max 182 1.100
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Unique 4.7 898 Start 157 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 Unique 4.7 898 Start 157
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Unique 4.8 832 Start 146 1.125
L-RNFP 175 Unique 4.8 911 Start 159
Lyman 401043 175 Unique 4.8 911 Start 159
L-SWC 175 Unique 5.0 946 Start 166
L-SWC 175 Unique 5.5 1045 Max 183
L-CFP 175 Unique 5.8 971 Max 170
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Unique 5.8 971 Max 170 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 Unique 5.8 971 Max 170
L-RNFP 175 Unique 5.8 1023 Max 179
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Unique 5.8 1023 Max 179 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 Unique 5.8 1023 Max 179
Cast 175 Universal 4.6 825 Start 144
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Universal 4.7 871 Start 152 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 Universal 4.7 871 Start 152
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Universal 4.8 832 Start 146 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 Universal 4.8 832 Start 146
Cast 175 Universal 5.3 1022 Max 179
Lyman 401638 L-TC 175 Universal 5.4 1009 Max 177 1.100
Lyman 401638 175 Universal 5.4 1009 Max 177
Lyman 401043 L-SWC 175 Universal 5.5 1006 Max 176 1.125
Lyman 401043 175 Universal 5.5 1006 Max 176
L-SWC 175 WSF 4.5 790 Start 138
L-SWC 175 WSF 5.0 860 Max 151
Bull-X Lead 175 WSF 5.5 960 168
Bull-X Lead 175 WSF 5.9 1020 179
L-SWC 175 WSF 6.0 1077 188
Bull-X Lead 175 WSF 6.2 1050 184
L-SWC 175 WSF 6.4 1092 191 1.200
L-RNFP 175 WSL 4.1 891 Start 156
L-CFP 175 WSL 4.3 957 Start 167
Lyman 401043 175 WSL 4.3 910 159
Lyman 401043 175 WSL 4.5 920 161
Bull-X Lead 175 WSL 4.5 950 166
Lyman 401043 175 WSL 4.7 970 170
Bull-X Lead 175 WSL 4.8 1000 175
L-SWC 175 WSL 4.8 1063 186
L-RNFP 175 WSL 4.9 1049 Max 184
L-CFP 175 WSL 5.1 992 Max 174
Bull-X L-SWC 175 WST 4.3 880 154
Lyman 401043 175 WST 4.3 900 158
Bull-X L-SWC 175 WST 4.6 910 159
Lyman 401043 175 WST 4.6 910 159
L-RNFP 175 WST 4.8 944 Start 165
Bull-X Lead 175 WST 4.8 930 163
L-SWC 175 WST 5.0 1003 176 1.125
L-SWC 175 WST 5.4 1029 180 1.170
L-SWC 175 WST 5.7 1025 179 1.140
L-RNFP 175 WST 6.3 1094 Max 191

TonyT
February 11, 2013, 12:00 PM
gutterman,
It appears that Hodgdon refuses to publish data for lead bullets in 40 S&W. The W-W 14th Edition reloading manual did provide some data. If you cannot locate one drop me a note with your e-mail address and I'll forward it to you.

bds
February 11, 2013, 12:31 PM
1999-2005 Winchester and 2004 Alliant load data have lead load data for 40S&W. I reference these along with Lyman #49 when developing 40 S&W lead loads.

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