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USMC Vet
February 11, 2013, 12:25 AM
Am giving some serious thought to buying a Mossy 590A1. Reports I have heard sound like it's a decent piece. Can't really decide on which model or bbl. length though. Any thoughts on this piece for a HD unit or pros or cons in general ? All input appreciated.
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PabloJ
February 11, 2013, 01:26 AM
I would take a hard look at Ohio made Ithaca 37. Not sure what new gun value is but I have seen couple parkerized police types at gun show for $450 which was reasonable for this firearm. The 590A1 is basically a crowbar of a pump gun. The Ithaca despite being all steel is still good handling gun and second action bar isn't really needed.

azgun
February 11, 2013, 01:35 AM
I love my 590a1. It has a forend light and is 8+1 with a 20 inch barrel. It is my home defense weapon

WJR
February 11, 2013, 01:43 AM
I am very pleased with my 590A1. What makes this shotgun best for me is the location of the safety. Perfect since I am a lefty. Otherwise, it is very sturdy, reliable, and well built.

Also, not sure the comment about the 590A1 being a crowbar of a shotgun. If it is, then the Ithaca must be a brick of a shotgun.

WJR

heavyshooter
February 11, 2013, 01:48 AM
It is an excellent gun! I too have a forearm light on mine and stands ready for Home Defense.

PabloJ
February 11, 2013, 02:07 AM
The nickname for the 590a1 is the 'Battering Ram'.

CaptainChaos
February 11, 2013, 03:36 AM
Also, not sure the comment about the 590A1 being a crowbar of a shotgun. If it is, then the Ithaca must be a brick of a shotgun.

Would I be correct in thinking that you've never *shot* an M37? From *my* experience, the only thing that comes close is a Remington 870 Wingmaster.

Regards,

Mark.

Black Knight
February 11, 2013, 10:32 PM
I took a Mossberg Armorers course last year and if I were in the market for a dedicated HD shotgun the 590A1 would be near the top of my list. I love my 870s but I would not feel slighted with a Mossberg at all. At work we have access to Mossberg 500s and they do nearly everything we need at this time.

JVaughn
February 11, 2013, 10:44 PM
I have a 590A1, very pleased with it. Very solid and reliable weapon.

Milamber
February 11, 2013, 10:52 PM
I have a 590A1 and love it. Even picked up the right bayonet for it. Shoots were you point it. Safety is easy to use and see visually.

Tony617
February 12, 2013, 12:02 AM
I have an 18.5" 590A1. I put on a Choate 1 shot extension, a CDM Gear MTR rail and have a Streamlight TLR-1 light on the rail. I also added a LimbSaver recoil pad and I also have a Specter Gear 6 round side saddle on my buttstock.

I take it to the gun range pretty much every time I go.

WJR
February 12, 2013, 12:54 AM
CaptainChaos,

No I have not shot an Ithaca before. My comment was only based on appearance. Looks like a brick with a barrel attached to it. It may be a great shotgun, but the controls would not suit me as well as my Mossbergs.

WJR

MagnumWill
February 12, 2013, 01:16 AM
Got an 18.5" barrel with the speedfeed stock and ghost ring sights, and I installed a Hogue overmolded foregrip (the original Mossberg plastic one just felt kinda cheap). It's a hell of a gun. I especially like the location of the mag release.

MagnumWill
February 12, 2013, 01:17 AM
Got an 18.5" barrel 590A1 with the speedfeed stock and ghost ring sights, and I installed a Hogue overmolded foregrip (the original Mossberg plastic one just felt kinda cheap). It's a hell of a gun. I especially like the location of the mag release.

CaptainChaos
February 12, 2013, 03:46 AM
WJR,

No I have not shot an Ithaca before.

Aaaaaaagh! You live in the USA and you've never shot an M37? You really, *really* must try one. They're hard to acquire, over here, but my main gun is an M37. Having said that, I bought a Chiappa 1887 about a year ago and it has eclipsed the Ithaca merely because of the "fun factor".

But, seriously, go borrow a Ithaca. See what ya think.

My comment was only based on appearance. Looks like a brick with a barrel attached to it.

Can't say I share the opinion. I find all the modern guns to ... "busy" for my liking.

The Chiappa does *look* good but, I have to admit, it handles "strangely". I still love shooting it, though.

It may be a great shotgun, but the controls would not suit me as well as my Mossbergs.

Last week-end, our club - somehow - managed to scrape up ten newbies to introduce to PSG. I was acting as "pupil" while another member instructed the group.

Since these were newbies, they were not permitted to use our Section.1 (unrestricted) shotguns, so someone had brought along a new Section.2 (three-shot restricted) Winchester SXP.

The gun was brand new, so it was a little stiff. Even so, the difference in handling surprised me. M37s are a real dream to shoot. The SXP? Not so much. (Though, in its defence, I didn't get to shoot it much and, as I say, it *was* brand new.)

I have to say the control placement doesn't bother me much. The 1887 is, of course, a totally different gun to the M37 but, if I use something enough, I can get used to anything. Perhaps if I was lefthanded, a tang safety would be more of an attraction.

Take my advice - go try an Ithaca.

Have fun.

Regards,

Mark.

P.S. As far as HD goes, in the UK it ain't really an option since we have to keep guns in a locked gun cabinet when not in use. However, for the record, my M&P M37 DSPS *does* slam-fire. :)

bomberbill357
February 12, 2013, 09:25 AM
Have a Mossberg 590A1 18.5" barrel, speedfeed stock and ghost ring rear. Up to this point I've always had Rem 870s. My friend lent me his Mossberg and it fit so well, worked so well and most importantly shot to point of aim (870 I had to aim 6" over the right shoulder at 25 yds to hit center mass) that I sold my 870 and bought the first 590A1 I saw. Don't have any regrets, and would buy Mossberg over Remington everytime, based on my personal preferances.

Mainsail
February 12, 2013, 04:48 PM
A friend with a Remington 870 and me with my 590A1 went out shooting one afternoon. His 870 locked up tight and required a forceful slam to the ground to open the action. This is a reported problem with the 870s.

My 590A1 ate everything I fed it.

I sold my 590A1 to fund a FN SLP as I wanted to go semi-auto. If I were to choose another pump, it would be another 590A1.

MarshallDodge
February 12, 2013, 05:01 PM
Another happy 590A1 customer. :D

ACP
February 12, 2013, 05:11 PM
I too have a 590A1, 18.5" barrel with ghost ring sights and a speed feed stock. With 5 in the tube, 4 in the stock and another 5 in an uncle mike's slip-on butt cuff, I have 14 rounds on board. federal flight control OO buck shoots one hole at 25 yards. great weapon, very smooth, utterly reliable, love the slide release and safety location. I put a surefire fore end on mine, BTW. It's my primary HD weapon.

WJR
February 12, 2013, 11:10 PM
CaptainChaos,

Had an opportunity to run by a gun shop during the day and did take a closer look at a vintage 37. Have to say the older ones look better than the ones on the Ithaca website. Controls are still not my favorite, but I admit I may be a little hasty in my "brick" comment.

WJR

mr.scott
February 12, 2013, 11:54 PM
I have 2. One is parkarized with fiber optic hiviz site, knoxx stock and b square receiver mounted scope mount.
The other is an 590 sp with a speed feed stock.
Both are great guns.

CaptainChaos
February 13, 2013, 02:43 AM
Had an opportunity to run by a gun shop during the day and did take a closer look at a vintage 37. Have to say the older ones look better than the ones on the Ithaca website. Controls are still not my favorite, but I admit I may be a little hasty in my "brick" comment.

I'm glad that you took the time to have a look. Now, try *shooting* one. :)

As far as I'm aware, they're pretty much made the same as they've always been except that, now, they're made on CNC machinery.

I would expect there to be "tacticool" (ie, black) models somewhere in the current line up. I don't actually look at their website since *new* Ithacas aren't available this side of The Pond unless you get them specially imported. (*Lots* of red tape...)

I do envy you just being able to wander into a gun shop and fondle racks of 'em.

Regards,

Mark.

HammerheadSSN663
February 13, 2013, 08:57 PM
I have the 20" with ghost rings and speed stock.

It's a friggin beast and can take down any modern designed 'green' building.

burk
February 13, 2013, 10:39 PM
The 590 is an excellent shotgun, and I actually prefer it to the 870. One other gun to consider would be the Benelli Nova tactical for a little less bread.

Rubber_Duck
February 13, 2013, 10:52 PM
I have owned a 590A1 for four years now. I absolutely love it. I have the 20-inch model, and the capacity is great, I keep 7 rounds of 3-inch magnum 00 buck in it for home defense, but it will take 8 of the 2.75" shells. I believe the 18.5" 590A1 holds 6+1. The ghost ring sights on mine are phenomenal for shooting slugs, I can hit targets all the way out to 100 yards with slugs, it's almost like shooting a rifle. The slugs + ghost ring sights combo brings a lot more capability to the table.

I've abused it and run it hard and it has never malfunctioned. The only thing I did to mine was add a GG&G sling mount for the front end. And I am waiting for MagPul to release their Mossberg SGA stock, the OEM stock is too long for me.

The 590A1 is my one and only shotgun and will stay that way forever. I don't need any other.

WJR
February 14, 2013, 12:36 AM
Rubber Duck,

I am waiting on Magpul as well. Any idea on when they will finally have their stock and forend available for purchase?

WJR

Rubber_Duck
February 14, 2013, 06:30 AM
No idea. MagPul's policy has always been not to announce release dates. It comes out when it comes out. They showed the mossberg stocks at SHOT show this year so I know they are coming.

shrewd
February 14, 2013, 02:51 PM
I too am anxiously awaiting the magpul mossy stuff

ront
February 14, 2013, 04:28 PM
I have just had my 590A1 18.5" for a couple of weeks now. I have wanted one for a long time and finally got it. I love it!!

Ron

Sweden
February 15, 2013, 12:29 AM
I bought my first 590A1 a decade ago and a couple of years thereafter purchased the 14" version below. We hosted a defensive shotgun class this weekend and it was one of two guns on the line that didn't experience issues. Never a problem from either of mine. I greatly prefer the tang safety of a Mossberg over the button safety of a Remington, but that is a personal preference. If you prefer a pistol grip, the Remington is a better choice.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh192/SQRSaab/Weapons/2012Pics002.jpg

ObsceneJesster
February 15, 2013, 04:52 PM
Love my 590A1. Got the 20in version due to the sell capacity and bayonet lug. I don't use a bayonet but they make the best sling mount.

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ObsceneJesster
February 16, 2013, 12:12 AM
Here is my 590A1. I know some of you don't like tacticool but I just feel way more comfortable operating a pistol grip. Target acquiring with the pistol grip is a little faster for me.

ATI Talon Stock w/aluminum upgrade.
Mesa Tactical side saddle.
Elzetta light mount.

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae266/jrwingate6/590A1-1-picsay_zps2bc96a81.jpg

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/ae266/jrwingate6/590A1-3_zpsb5a9f014.jpg

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Loc n Load
February 16, 2013, 12:32 AM
I have 40 years of experience using and instructing police/tactical shotguns and have used and instructed and maintained ( armorer) hundreds of Rem 870's, Mossberg 500/550/590's and Ithaca 37's during that four decade span. I have supervised the firing of tens of thousands of rounds thru all three platforms and IMO they are all great shotguns. I personally own all 3, and used all three as duty guns. There are pro's and con's to all three when discussing different aspects of them, but all three of them are classic combat/tactical shotguns and have served us well in the military, spec op's community and police use. If you have your heart set on a Mossberg 590, then you will not be disappointed. But all three are good tools in the tool box.

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