Lead Free Shells


February 12, 2013, 01:14 PM
Hi. I'm wondering what the best lead free round would be for shotgunning coyote at long ranges (besides dead coyote shells cause there way to expensive). I live in a shotgun only, lead free county, so I need a good shotgun round to hunt here. Any info helps, thanks for reading.

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February 12, 2013, 04:21 PM
T shot steel would get the job done inside of 40ish yards

February 12, 2013, 08:45 PM
Well, you have "best" and cheap. Unfortunately they are mutually exclusive. How many coyotes are you shooting that cost is a factor at all" The Dead Coyote rounds are the best by far.

February 13, 2013, 12:55 AM
Thanks guys, I've come to the same conclusion Virginian, I was just hoping to hear different. What's your opinion on hevi metal by hevi shot? I'll probably just go with the dead coyote rounds, any suggestions for a good choke to pair with the dead coyote rounds?

February 13, 2013, 06:36 AM
Heavy Metal is a combination of Hevi-Shot and steel, for reduced costs, and they do not tell you the density of the Hevi-Shot included even. All Hevi-Shot used to be like a 12 specific gravity, which is great, but now they have become a brand name with several different densities, and they are very coy about what is what. Last time I really dug into it, Hevi-Shot Goose was still the old stuff, and it got lighter from there. Duck is lighter for example. Dead Coyote is still the old heavy formula, too. A friend uses/used some Federal Tungsten Iron BBs and said they worked well, but unfortunately right now about all you can find in tungsten from anybody is Hevi-Shot and Kent Impact tungsten polymer. The Kent stuff is about the same density as lead, is soft enough to shoot in anything, and I love it, but it is even more expensive than Hevi-Shot.
Have you tried patterning some premium #4 Buck? It has been a while, but I got real good patterns from Winchester 3" Magnum buffered Super XX buckshot some years back.
In my pursuit of the ultimate long range goose loads some time ago, I shot well over 2,000 patterns, and played with all kinds of barrel modifications and choke tubes. I found with large shot I got the tightest patterns with slightly less than Full choke. Unless you want to go with custom tubes, I would suggest trying an Improved Modified choke tube rated for steel shot. I have zero experience with the choke tubes advertised for Dead Coyote shot, so I can't tell you if they work well or they are just designed to get your money. I am real curious as to why they say not for steel shot, as original Hevi-Shot and Federal Tungsten-Iron were a lot harder than steel. Good luck.

February 13, 2013, 11:03 AM
Nice Shot, in my opinion. Although not the cheapest.

February 13, 2013, 11:15 AM
That's pretty deceptive of hevi shot to make their rounds different densities, I've even heard hevi metal is loaded with various densities. I normally use lead #4 Buck out of a modified choke in other counties but I want to take advantage of the restricted land close to home. I saw those federal heavyweight coyote shells in BB online, but there out of stock everywhere. I'll be buying a choke specific to whatever load I settle on, so I'm definitely interested in the dead coyote choke tube. What type of choke would you use for dead coyote rounds in T shot?

February 13, 2013, 12:31 PM
Just use a .22 magnum. :D

February 13, 2013, 01:22 PM
Just use a .22 magnum.

OP stated he was in a shotgun-only county. I agree with the Dead Coyote shot, have used it for larger varmints in my shotgun-only National Grassland hunting area.

February 13, 2013, 03:53 PM
Shotguns have a tendency to really mess up a pelt that might be worth some money - unless your goal is simply to eradicate them (then poison would work best), if you are hunting them for pelts and $$$, you need the load that will make the smallest number of holes in the pelt, and all of them preferably in the head

February 13, 2013, 04:20 PM
Shotguns actually cause minimal pelt damage compared to centerfire rifles and as I've already stated, I live in a shotgun only county. I will be keeping the pelts, but for my self not for sale. Also, I would never introduce poisons into an ecosystem. Poisons cause death in all scavenging animals such as other predatory mammals as well as predatory birds, and in my opinion it is irresponsible to use poisons in any situation.

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