Glock, Ruger, or S&W?


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Godsgunman
February 13, 2013, 01:02 PM
Probably going to open up a huge can of worms but:
which would you rather carry and why?

Glock 26
Ruger sr9c
S&W M&P9c

I will start I guess. I personally own and carry the Glock 26 and I do like it. Shoots great for me and I actually like how it fits in my hand. I do not own the M&P but I am very intrigued by it. I like it having a rail plus external safety option. As far as the Ruger is concerned, the 9c is the only Ruger I could ever see myself carrying since it isn't a heavy tank.
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josiewales
February 13, 2013, 01:12 PM
Ruger. Because Rugers are reliable, accurate, have the best CS out there, look better, and feel better. So... just better! :)

Droid noob
February 13, 2013, 01:22 PM
Glock 26, because there's no external safety. I also have the mp shield that I love to carry. I just don't care much for external safety. I never use it so I don't confuse myself between guns.

jacob2745
February 13, 2013, 01:31 PM
I carry a M&P 9c with no external safety. My wife's carries a glock 26. I have shot them side by side many times, and I personally prefer the M&P. it's just more comfortable to me. I also seem to shoot it better. But as they say,"different strokes for different folks."

Old judge creek
February 13, 2013, 01:34 PM
Glock 26 - because In My (experienced based) Opinion, the Glock reliability has FAR exceeded that of any other semi-auto.

These days - and I'll be 70 in a few weeks - when I'm prospecting in the desert or on my ranch, I pack a 45 ACP. The high desert environment is HARSH and plays havoc with every gun I've ever carried. Several years ago I replaced my Kimber with a Glock 3. Neither one has ever failed me, but I have more confidence that the Glock is my better choice - fer sure, its finish is impervious to anything the desert inflicts on it.

And believe you me when I say that prying me away from my 1911 took a LOT of years.

Just last November, I added a Glock 19 to my battery because while I can still shoot my 45, my hands aren't getting any younger and I figured I'd get a 9mm while the gettin' was good.. and I'm glad I did. :)

And those choices were made by choosing not "The Best of Three" choices, but the best possible choice above all available choices.

YMMV

mljdeckard
February 13, 2013, 01:38 PM
I would rule out all three because of the triggers.

rcmodel
February 13, 2013, 01:42 PM
Of the three, I would take a Springfield XD.

rc

mrnic3guy1989
February 13, 2013, 01:46 PM
Glock the Ruger semis make the Glock look like a young vivica fox (;

powderx
February 13, 2013, 01:47 PM
Huge Ruger fan here.

But I'd suggest none of those listed.

Inebriated
February 13, 2013, 01:59 PM
I'll take the Glock over the other two. No real reason other than it fits better, and I've been shooting them for years. I also trust Glocks more than any other handgun.

Teachu2
February 13, 2013, 01:59 PM
I carry a G26. My wife carries a M&P 9c. She's a better shot with the 9c than the G26, but the G26 is downright silly good in my hands while the 9c is merely average. Her shoes don't fit me, either.

Shoot them all, if possible. One will speak to you.

ku4hx
February 13, 2013, 02:07 PM
I have Glocks 26, 19 (among others) and wife just recently bought an SR9 and SR9c (among others). She prefers her Rugers and I prefer the G26 ... and G19. There's just no accounting for taste.

Thing is we shoot the ones we like and that means we gain competence. You won't go wrong with any of the three you've listed.

savanahsdad
February 13, 2013, 02:19 PM
I'd say anything but the glock , but the OP said he likes his 26 , so for him I think that would be his best pick of the three , I have never shot the S&W M&P, but I did have A S&W Sigma 40 , for a very short time! was only too happy to see that one go down to road , so if it were me I'd say go with the Ruger, (of the three listed) now add a XD or a Sig Sauer to the mix , and then you got a real pony race!

reb27
February 13, 2013, 02:37 PM
Glock 26 hands down.

mgmorden
February 13, 2013, 02:44 PM
I'd probably take the M&P if it was just a matter of a Mr Miyagi style "choose one", but honestly the differences between all three of those is so minor that for a working gun I'd take whichever I could find at the best price (or since you already have one of them like you have the Glock 26, then I'd say just stick with whatever you already own).

All 3 will be reliable and accurate enough for self-defense uses.

Invisible Swordsman
February 13, 2013, 03:10 PM
I looked at all three a few months ago, and would have been fine with any of them. I chose the Glock 26 because I already had holsters for it (was replacing a 27).

BP Hunter
February 13, 2013, 03:35 PM
They are all excellent and reliable firearms. You cannot go wrong with any of them. The important question is whch fits your hand best. Also of among your choices, which would you shoot best with.

Byrd666
February 13, 2013, 03:45 PM
Glock 26 - Only fire one clip through and it fit my hand like a brick with horns. Maybe because it was an older model but...


Ruger sr9c - Have and carry a full size SR9 and used it to qualify for my CHL. I honestly think I should have went with the "c" model instead though, as the full size is just a tad too large for me conceal well with some shirts.

S&W M&P9c - I own one of these without external safety. I found this to be my perfect carry piece. Just waiting on my hybrid holster from http://www.jeffreycustomleather.com/ConcealmeantHolsters.html before I can start carrying it on a daily basis. I found this pistol to point and fire naturally for me. Without any need for grip adjustment. Like I had to do with the Glock and the XD. I'm more accurate with this one than I am any other handgun in my arsenal, except for my S&W Mod 66 2 1/2" Combat Magnum.

jimbo555
February 13, 2013, 04:07 PM
Can't go wrong with any one of those choices.

Lord Palmerston
February 13, 2013, 05:26 PM
I own a GLOCK 26, but any of them will do the job. They're all reliable. I think it's rather a matter of good hand fitting and personal preference. As far as external safeties are concerned, I don't miss them. I think that those safeties are more a hindrance tan an advantage. At least in the case of well trained and conscious shooters. Most of us, I presume.

TarDevil
February 13, 2013, 05:29 PM
Never shot the M&P, but between the Glock and Ruger, definitely the SR9c. Not saying it's a better gun... just better for me. Dead-nuts reliable and accurate, ergonomically WAY better for me than the Glock.

I do hope to experience the M&P soon, but got other fish to fry first (SR45, Sig P290, something in a wheel gun).

Pud
February 13, 2013, 09:24 PM
I carry the SR9c every day....
For me, it is great.
But any on your list would be fine-whatever suits YOU !
PUD

revals
February 13, 2013, 11:08 PM
I carry the SR9C every day and love it.

RBid
February 13, 2013, 11:26 PM
I went with the SR9c. It's my primary CCW, and I love it.

My second choice of these would be the M&P9c.

I prefer the G19 & G23 > the 26 & 27. I carry my G23 on occasion.

coolluke01
February 13, 2013, 11:37 PM
Of the three, I would take a Croatian XD

Had to fix that for you. lol


You will be hard pressed to find a gun more accurate or reliable than the G26.

Remember, how a gun feels in the hand is not a good indicator of how it will shoot. There is no alternative to learning proper technique and shooting them all to see what you prefer. I think learning proper technique first is very important. That way you won't be comparing guns when holding them in the way they were not designed to be held. This could have a huge bearing on which gun you choose.

JR24
February 14, 2013, 12:52 AM
Made the same comparison, went with the Ruger SR9c. Fits my hand better than the Glock, much better trigger than the M&P (in my opinion). On me, it conceals incredibly easily (better than the Glock 26 on me) under just a t-shirt.

I also love that, even though it's a compact, it shoots as well and accurately (and softly) as any of my full sized 9mms.

Carried it daily for 2 years, have 2500+ trouble free rounds on it.

YMMV

Fencer
February 14, 2013, 01:42 AM
My EDC is an HKP2000SK and I am very happy with it. Out of the options mentioned however, I would go with the Glock. My G20 has never failed to go bang despite a huge range of factory and hand loads fed through it. I think they are among the most reliable autos on the market.

breakingcontact
February 14, 2013, 04:36 AM
Me? S&W.

Best for you? Who knows. Try them all out.

bannockburn
February 14, 2013, 06:42 AM
Tried all three and went with the Ruger SR9c. Felt good in my hand, liked the overall design, and thought it was just right for me.

Deer_Freak
February 14, 2013, 06:43 AM
I wouldn't own any of the guns listed. I don't like the safety mechanism on the Glock or the Ruger SR series. I don't like DA only guns, except as a pocket pistol. S&W is not what they once were in anything. Can I interest you in a Springfield?

breakingcontact
February 14, 2013, 06:57 AM
S&W not what they once were?

joeyabc123
February 14, 2013, 07:29 AM
Glock 26 all the way

WoodchuckAssassin
February 14, 2013, 08:03 AM
Real tough call between the S&W and the Ruger. I've owned the Ruger, and it was a very nice plastic fantastic. The S&W always looked atractive to me, but I've never shot one.

I'm not a Glock Guy, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Dean1818
February 14, 2013, 08:46 AM
M&P

Look at the Shield

hAkron
February 14, 2013, 08:55 AM
Of those choices, I would pick the Glock. They are all good choices, but the Glock has the least amount of extraneous safeties, chamber indicators, buttons, latches, etc.

I've never shot the Ruger, but people seem to love them.

TarDevil
February 14, 2013, 10:53 AM
S&W not what they once were?
I'd like a explanation for that, also.

tarosean
February 14, 2013, 11:05 AM
Pick the one with the best trigger in your mind.

Don357
February 14, 2013, 12:25 PM
Probably the M&P. I love Rugers, just not a fan of the Sr series, and don't get me started on Glocks.:barf:

Sam1911
February 14, 2013, 12:56 PM
Probably the Glock.

I'd like to consider the M&P -- in fact, I love shooting them -- but I'm having a real hard time accepting some of the things (reliability issues) I've seen with altogether too many of them that pass through my observation in competition.

I've seen a few of the Rugers. I haven't shot one. They seemed to have a lot of safety gizmos and such that would be a turn-off for me. Having watched the few shooters that show up with them at our practices deal with mag safeties external safties and such, I don't imagine I'd ever even consider one.

From their website:

Just like the original, full-sized SR9, the SR9c is loaded with modern safety features like a 1911-style ambidextrous manual safety, internal trigger bar interlock and striker blocker, trigger safety, magazine disconnect, plus a visual and tactile loaded chamber indicator.Wow...that sure is a load!

Teachu2
February 14, 2013, 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by breakingcontact
S&W not what they once were?

I'd like a explanation for that, also.
__________________

They aren't revolvers...

jon_in_wv
February 14, 2013, 01:21 PM
Three flavors of the same Kool-Aid. Try to shoot all three and I'm sure the choice will become clear.

Personally I have never liked the feel or trigger as much as the M&P. My M&P 9C has over 10000 rounds downrange and it has been a superb pistol.

JR24
February 14, 2013, 02:00 PM
I've seen a few of the Rugers. I haven't shot one. They seemed to have a lot of safety gizmos and such that would be a turn-off for me. Having watched the few shooters that show up with them at our practices deal with mag safeties external safties and such, I don't imagine I'd ever even consider one.

This is a good point. From my personal experience, I've found that with my small hands, the manual safety is in exactly the right position to swipe off as I draw. Not quite like a 1911, but actually pretty close to my Hi-Power. So, for me, the safeties don't make much of a difference. I could see it being an issue if you have big hands though.

dprice3844444
February 14, 2013, 02:07 PM
normal non work pocket carry is a glock 26.got a gen 1,2,3 g17 for work,2 g19c's for play.only extra mags i buy are g17's cause they fit all the above.sent the 26 and the 2 19c's back to glock to install the round triggers.serrated kept aggravating my trigger finger after 100 rounds.they changed em free.

TarDevil
February 14, 2013, 02:40 PM
This is a good point. From my personal experience, I've found that with my small hands, the manual safety is in exactly the right position to swipe off as I draw. Not quite like a 1911, but actually pretty close to my Hi-Power. So, for me, the safeties don't make much of a difference. I could see it being an issue if you have big hands though.
The thumb safety causes me absolutely no issues either... quite easy to manipulate. I don't understand why any other safety devices would impede either self defense or competition. I'm willing to listen, though...

Sam1911
February 14, 2013, 04:23 PM
The thumb safety causes me absolutely no issues either... quite easy to manipulate. I don't understand why any other safety devices would impede either self defense or competition. I'm willing to listen, though...
A thumb safety I can work with. I use a 1911 a lot after all. Generally they're fine. (Never could get used to the one on a CZ, unfortunately...just something about the location of the pivot point that made it not work correctly at speed.)

A magazine disconnect is awful in competition as you cannot unload and show clear -- and then drop the hammer -- without reinserting a magazine first, which is a total hassle and has to be explained to the SOs each time. You've got to keep an extra, empty magazine on hand to do that with as no SO is going to let you insert a loaded mag after your "show clear" step. Just a pain in the butt. We do deal with it with the Hi-Powers and a few other guns that come with mag safeties, but it is awkward complexity for no good purpose.

As far as a loaded chamber flag? That's really just an eyesore more than anything else, but like any other mechanical device, the more moving parts, the more stuff there is to break or get fouled somehow.

Ruger has gone so overboard with the various safeties and the lovely "billboard" printed down the side, etc, that they're starting to be a caricature of prudent care. So overdone it's galling and absurd.

...

None of that necessarily makes one a bad fit or a bad choice for a carry weapon, but I use my carry weapons extensively in competition as a way to develop proficiency with them. I would not use the Ruger in competition, so I wouldn't personally be considering it for purchase.

Just One Shot
February 14, 2013, 05:08 PM
My personal preference would be the S&W M&P 1st, Ruger 2nd and the Glock 3rd. I've currently own a G26 (2nd one) and I have owned many other Glocks (19, 21, 30-2 and 36) and while they are dependable, none of them impress me in the area ergonomics. My fingers are too thick for G26 and even with Pearce +0 mag extensions it just doesn't feel right in my hand.

I have owned the Ruger SR9C and I really liked the capacity in such a small gun plus it had a good feeling grip. If I could find another one reasonably priced I would snatch it up. I currently own a S&W M&P .40 Compact and a M&P Shield .40 and both have been outstanding. The .40C is about the same thickness as the G26 but the interchangable backstraps make it feel better (I have the CT laser on mine which is equal to the largest backstrap). The Shield is by far the easiest to conceal and while it doesn't have removable backstraps, it is made to mimick the medium strap that comes on the other M&Ps which is the size that about 90% of the M&P owners use anyways.

Best thing for you to do is try and find a range that rents guns or go out with some friends that own these models and shoot them for yourself. What works for others may not be the best choice for you. It's more fun that way and you won't end up getting stuck with something you don't like. Good luck in your search.

breakingcontact
February 14, 2013, 06:32 PM
I'd like to consider the M&P -- in fact, I love shooting them -- but I'm having a real hard time accepting some of the things (reliability issues) I've seen with altogether too many of them that pass through my observation in competition.

? What have you been seeing?

needmorecowbell
February 14, 2013, 07:04 PM
I did a similar analysis a few years ago and chose the SR9c. Afterwards, I traded it for what I really wanted, a CZ P01. The SR9c was a nice gun though. Of the 3 you list, I'd get it unless I could talk you into the CZ.......��

Sam1911
February 14, 2013, 09:21 PM
I'd like to consider the M&P -- in fact, I love shooting them -- but I'm having a real hard time accepting some of the things (reliability issues) I've seen with altogether too many of them that pass through my observation in competition.

? What have you been seeing?
I've posted about that before, but I know an uncomfortable number of well-ranked shooters in my area who have had repeated bad experiences with failures to extract, primarily, and also a recurring light primer strike problem with the M&P series. These are pretty well-known issues and there are various "fixes" suggested, not any of which fix all of the problems all of the time, or for very long, in some cases.

I know shooters who've had their M&Ps back to S&W multiple times without solving the extraction problem long-term. A close personal friend of mine, and Master-class shooter has now owned, and ditched, THREE M&P pros and a standard model in the attempt to get one to run reliably. Ironically, all this takes place in the local shooting area of one of the better known M&P gunsmiths (Burwell) and if these guys can't keep them running, or can't find work-arounds and fluff-and-buffs (or whatever else) to make them solid long-term performers, I'm just not comfortable putting my money and time into them.

And that KILLS me, because the fastest IDPA Classifier time I ever shot was fired with a borrowed M&P standard model I'd never shot before, and shot cold. A great gun! But I've watched so many local competitors practicing their TRBs during major matches, and lamenting that S&W didn't get it fixed THIS TIME, either, that I just can't bring myself to roll the dice.

tarosean
February 14, 2013, 09:55 PM
No offense Sam, but don't a third of competitors still use them?

I personally hated everything about mine, even after trigger upgrades... However I don't shoot IDPA either.

Sam1911
February 14, 2013, 09:59 PM
Yeah. A fair number do use them -- they are really good shooting guns. That's why it bugs me so bad to have such distrust for them. When they're bad...they're rotten, and S&W seems willing to "fix" them over and over no matter how many times they still don't work.

breakingcontact
February 14, 2013, 11:05 PM
Wow. That's the first I've heard of this regarding M&Ps. Mine have been 100% reliable over a few thousand rounds. I've only ever heard they are extremely/Glock like reliable.p

Do these issues extend to the Shield as well?

jon_in_wv
February 15, 2013, 12:23 AM
The only difference between the M&Ps and the Glocks is that when and M&P fails it isn't "ammo related". Mine has well over 10,000 rounds through it. Most of them my own reloads. I upgraded the trigger around 8000 rounds because I wanted a more positive trigger and I felt like the trigger had gotten a bit soft. Mine still shoots, looks, and feels like new. It is hands down the best pistol I've ever had experience with.

TestPilot
February 15, 2013, 05:21 AM
Between Glock and M&P, it's a personal preference issue.

Can't comment much on theSR9. I never considered it, since I don't want manual firing inhibiting devices on my pistol.

meanmrmustard
February 15, 2013, 06:17 AM
Wow. That's the first I've heard of this regarding M&Ps. Mine have been 100% reliable over a few thousand rounds. I've only ever heard they are extremely/Glock like reliable.p

Do these issues extend to the Shield as well?
Same here.

My Shield has been fine.

Sam1911
February 15, 2013, 06:59 AM
Honestly, I have no idea on the Shield. I've not seen any show up on the competition field, and they haven't been out long enough to develop so substantial a reputation.

Further, having one be reliable for "a few thousand rounds" means something to some people that it doesn't quit mean to others. Some of the folks having repeated problems, and with repeated guns, are approaching 20K rounds a year, so a problem that only starts happening after a few thousand rounds, or recurs every few thousand rounds, would be a real big problem for them.

breakingcontact
February 15, 2013, 09:30 AM
Right. Of course you're seeing a larger sample size and a larger amount of rounds fired. Just surprises me as this is the first I've heard of any issues with the M&Ps except some 9mm full size guns having accuracy issues.

Godsgunman
February 15, 2013, 11:00 AM
Well what you have seen with the M&Ps is a little concerning for me, but then again I hardly come close to reaching those numbers shooting wise, maybe 200 rnds a month per weapon. That may increase however as I have started reloading. All machines breakdown over time and I know eventually even a Glock will need repair, even though I baby mine and clean and oil it after every range session. Don't like a dirty carry weapon even if they are known for "to hell and back" reliability.

mdauben
February 15, 2013, 11:36 AM
Glock 26
Ruger sr9c
S&W M&P9c
I would chose the Glock soley becuase I already own several Glock pistols and I am familiar and comfortable with their operation and handling. That's not to say I think Glocks are necessarily better than the Ruger or S&W models you listed. I probably would not feel particularly disadvantaged with either one, once I had a chance to put a few hundred rounds them them. ;)

Ala Tom
February 15, 2013, 11:51 AM
Of those choices I would take the Ruger SR9c. I have fired a box through each of these and have owned a S&W M&P 40 full size (now a 357 Sig). I liked the Ruger most of all but I also liked the others in various ways. For concealment you can't beat the Glock 26. But, it does push your hand around and trying to shoot a double tap would be tough. (In many cases with 9mm, a double tap seems to be recommended.) The M&P has more of a kick than the Ruger. The Ruger has a very good balance to it. You could easily do a double tap with the Ruger.

But I would strongly recommend a Ruger SR40C. I have been shooting mine for about a year and like it as much as ever. It has only a moderate recoil. It is exactly the same size as the SR9c and the specs say it is the same weight. I bought the SR40c without trying it first. (One was not available.) I trusted Ruger to make it well-balanced. It handles well and has the same good trigger as the SR9c. At present I carry it daily.

You can also get the Glock in 40 instead of 9 mm at about the same size as the 26. But the recoil may be a problem. But then I also recommend you consider the Glock 30 (.45 ACP) through which I have fired a box and which is about the same size as the Rugers SR9c and SR40c. I did well with the Glock 30. Its recoil was the same as my MP 357 Sig (strong and sharp but not unmanageable.) I don't think a rapid double tap is required with the .40 or .45 but you could add a couple more shots with deliberation.

I once heard a local cop drive his car with the siren to a house two blocks away at 5 am and then fire a double tap at the instant the siren stopped. I learned later he killed a dog as he responded to a domestic disturbance call. Obviously he had been trained to do a double tap with his 9 mm.

Sam1911
February 15, 2013, 11:52 AM
Surely, I've seen many M&Ps run for whole matches and seen buddies' guns run for months without a problem. I'm not trying to say it is a bad gun at all or shouldn't be trusted, exactly.

I've just seen a number of them go down and not be fixable, apparently, or at least cause their owners a lot of heartburn -- to include multiple guys dropping out of big matches halfway through because their box-stock gun just quit working. Considering the cost and effort of attending big matches, and the emotional investment of trying your best and being black flagged by a bum gun, that's enough to scare a comp. shooter pretty bad.

tarosean
February 15, 2013, 11:56 AM
Yeah. A fair number do use them -- they are really good shooting guns. That's why it bugs me so bad to have such distrust for them.

Just out of curiosity. What class are you mostly seeing this in? SSP would be more concerning than CDP, if you know what Im saying.

micdude
February 15, 2013, 11:57 AM
I would say glock I own a g26 and g19 and they are on my never sell list, you just cant make them fail. I also don't like external safeties :barf:, but I would not hesitate to own another ruger product because there customer service rocks. That said buy what fits you, for me glock just feels right.

RetiredUSNChief
February 15, 2013, 12:27 PM
Of the three, I would take a Springfield XD.

rc

A little warning next time, OK?

Do you know how difficult it is to clean Dr. Pepper off my laptop screen and keyboard?

:neener:

Sam1911
February 15, 2013, 12:40 PM
Just out of curiosity. What class are you mostly seeing this in? SSP would be more concerning than CDP, if you know what Im saying.SSP. I don't see many .45 M&Ps come through (except of course when Olhasso won Nationals CDP class with one in '08). These are predominately full-size 9mm M&Ps, and most are the Pros, if I'm seeing it right.

AnthonySmithXR
February 15, 2013, 12:40 PM
I looked at the exact same pistols and chose the ruger sr9c. I WANTED a thumb safety and if the mag disconnect is an issue, just take it out. The LCI is a non issue. It can't harm anything if it malfunctions. Worst case scinerio, it gets stuck up. Who cares? The gun is always treated as loads anyway. And, if you don't like the thumb safety don't engage it. It's got a pretty secure positive lock and I've never had mine accidentally engage or disengage.

I chose the ruger because 1) it fits in my hand beautifully. 2)the trigger is FANTASTIC(way better than the glock or any other IMO. Of course these are very personal prefs). 3) the ability to make the weapon quickly serviceable but very safe in an environment full of kids by taking advantage of the safety features. If you train with the thumb safety, it is a non-issue.


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TarDevil
February 15, 2013, 12:41 PM
A magazine disconnect is awful in competition as you cannot unload and show clear -- and then drop the hammer -- without reinserting a magazine first, which is a total hassle and has to be explained to the SOs each time. You've got to keep an extra, empty magazine on hand to do that with as no SO is going to let you insert a loaded mag after your "show clear" step. Just a pain in the butt. We do deal with it with the Hi-Powers and a few other guns that come with mag safeties, but it is awkward complexity for no good purpose.

As far as a loaded chamber flag? That's really just an eyesore more than anything else, but like any other mechanical device, the more moving parts, the more stuff there is to break or get fouled somehow.

Thanks for that explanation, Sam. Makes sense that the gun wouldn't be optimal for competition, but the the mag disconnect has never affected me for my use of the gun.

I've heard others mention the same concerns about the LCI, but at this point I think the gun has proven itself totally reliable, even with the extra stuff.

hAkron
February 17, 2013, 05:10 PM
They aren't revolvers...

S&W has been making semi-autos for quite a while. A quick browse through my Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson shows a .35 caliber (rim fire apparently) model 1913 semi auto. -- which, started production in 1913 (maybe that was obvious, but I include it for clarity).

Having said that - I don't totally agree with the notion that S&W's best days are behind them. I am a fan of the now defunct 3rd Gen semi autos, and I really don't care for the Sigma or M&P semiautos, but I'll put my MIM 686-6 plus up against any of my other pre lock, pre MIM S&W revolvers any day.

bill3424
February 17, 2013, 05:37 PM
G26. Seems to work just fine for me since they came out. Parts are fairly cheap and available (pre panic). I always seemed to shoot the subcompact's much better than their bigger brothers.

easyg
February 17, 2013, 06:07 PM
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM7193.jpg

The Ruger definitely has the best trigger of the three.

RmB
February 17, 2013, 06:25 PM
I would say M&P 9c
Because of magazine capacity and the wonderful ergos. I like the Glocks too, but prefer the M&P for real estate on the grip. The M&Ps are very accurate and extremely reliable. Now if this was a contest between M&P 9c and Glock 19... Little different there. Glock all day long.
I can't say much for the Rugers except that I don't care for the way they feel.
You should choose whatever feels better to you.
AND MAKE SURE YOU GET THE NO EXTERNAL SAFETY VERSION OF THE M&P
I hate safeties on striker fired guns.

lefteye
February 17, 2013, 06:27 PM
easyg's Post # 70

That is the gun I bought yesterday. It fits my hand and I expect to be my new carry gun. :D

WCraven
February 18, 2013, 09:17 PM
Glock 26 vs Kahr CW9 vs Ruger LC9 vs Kimber Ultra Carry II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt3jtMCyjP8

You may want to throw the Kahr CW9 in the mix after watching it outshoot all 3 of the others..

Bobson
February 18, 2013, 10:53 PM
G26; no contest, IMO. I never liked Glocks, and I wanted to dislike them even more because of all the fanboys. Then I finally tried one. Now I own a G19, and am looking forward to adding a G26, G34, and possibly a G30.

ETA: People seem to be claiming the SR9c has the best trigger of the three. IMO, the Glock has the best, and the M&P has the worst.

TX Plinker
February 19, 2013, 05:58 PM
Glock... Because aftermarket parts, easy to conceal carry, accurate and reliable in darn near any condition.

meanmrmustard
February 19, 2013, 06:07 PM
G26; no contest, IMO. I never liked Glocks, and I wanted to dislike them even more because of all the fanboys. Then I finally tried one. Now I own a G19, and am looking forward to adding a G26, G34, and possibly a G30.

ETA: People seem to be claiming the SR9c has the best trigger of the three. IMO, the Glock has the best, and the M&P has the worst.
I'd be inclined to agree...until you pull the bang switch on a Shield.

Bobson
February 19, 2013, 06:22 PM
I'd be inclined to agree...until you pull the bang switch on a Shield.
I just saw your posts about your new Shield last night. :p congrats man. BTW, I was referencing the trigger on the M&P9. I didnt enjoy the trigger pull on that gun, but IDK if the Shield's trigger feels the same.

meanmrmustard
February 19, 2013, 06:25 PM
I just saw your posts about your new Shield last night. :p congrats man. BTW, I was referencing the trigger on the M&P9. I didnt enjoy the trigger pull on that gun, but IDK if the Shield's trigger feels the same.
S&W is supposedly upgrading the entire line to mimic the Shield trigger.

The M&Ps from FS to Compact feel nothing like the Shield, and I agree that it is a smart decision to change them.

HKGuns
February 19, 2013, 10:59 PM
Shoot all three and pick the one you like best.

HK40.Eh?
February 21, 2013, 12:19 AM
What aboot H&K eh?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93491137@N08/8494386698/in/photostream/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93491137@N08/8494386698/in/photostream/lightbox/

Pud
February 21, 2013, 07:54 AM
I looked at the exact same pistols and chose the ruger sr9c. I WANTED a thumb safety and if the mag disconnect is an issue, just take it out. The LCI is a non issue. It can't harm anything if it malfunctions. Worst case scinerio, it gets stuck up. Who cares? The gun is always treated as loads anyway. And, if you don't like the thumb safety don't engage it. It's got a pretty secure positive lock and I've never had mine accidentally engage or disengage.

I chose the ruger because 1) it fits in my hand beautifully. 2)the trigger is FANTASTIC(way better than the glock or any other IMO. Of course these are very personal prefs). 3) the ability to make the weapon quickly serviceable but very safe in an environment full of kids by taking advantage of the safety features. If you train with the thumb safety, it is a non-issue.


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AnthonySmithXR
February 21, 2013, 02:12 PM
Just to state the obvious, the "best trigger" is a very personal and experience driven choice. Try them yourself. Choose what you like. And note that your preferences may change over time. 'Best trigger' isn't like best ammo. There are objective tests for ammo. There are some objective tests for a trigger (weight, travel, etc) but you can quantify 'feel'.


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FireInCairo
February 21, 2013, 09:04 PM
Glock because of reliability, ease of maintenance, and the aftermarket for parts to fine-tune it to your preference.

I owned a Ruger LC9 and wasn't that happy with the quality. I owned an M&P40C and was completely dissatisfied with the trigger (I am in Massachusetts, though).

Glock is a step above Ruger and S&W when it comes to reliability and simple quality, in my opinion. The Glocks are really a feat of engineering simplicity. It's what a tool should be: Simple, reliable, and useful.

alienbogey
February 22, 2013, 01:48 AM
I had an early SR9 and finally sold it because I wasn't happy with the trigger. I've heard later ones are better so it would be my first choice because the ergonomics were great for me.

The Smith would be my second choice - I've never handled one, though.

My third choice would be anything but a Glock. I wouldn't take a Glock if you gave it to me.

coolluke01
February 22, 2013, 03:14 PM
^^^^ now you just completely discredited yourself. Blind hate of a platform is not intelligent or helpful.

Find friends that have the guns and try them for yourself.

Sam1911
February 22, 2013, 03:24 PM
^^^^ now you just completely discredited yourself. Blind hate of a platform is not intelligent or helpful.He didn't indicate he had blind hate for the platform. He may have more experience with one than you do and just doesn't like them.

At any rate, the OP's got enough to chew on by now.

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