Difference between a 1907 sling and a Turner NM sling?


February 13, 2013, 11:47 PM
From what I can gather, the Turner NM can be had in longer lengths, the holes are numbered, option of biothane or leather, and the keepers are "heavy duty." Am I right?

I have a CMP M1 coming to me in a few days, would like to get it something appropriate. I don't know how much "serious" shooting I will be doing with it - by that I mean strapped up, shooting it in matches, etc. Will a mil-spec 1907 be good enough for casual match use? I say "casual" because maybe I will participate in a Garand match once in awhile or something but wouldn't expect heavy, high power-type usage.

If the 1907 is recommended, any experience with El Paso Saddlery's 1907 vs Turner's version? I like to buy Texas-made things when available.

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Pat M
February 14, 2013, 12:45 AM
I think the Turner 1907 sling is what you are looking for. I would even consider saving $20 and ordering one of their "seconds." I hear the imperfections are barely noticeable. I use the leather national match sling on my match AR.

February 14, 2013, 12:54 AM
1907 is a type of sling. turner is a brand that makes that type of sling in leather and synthetic (biothane).

i don't really like either of their slings, though i have had 3 of them. i wouldn't characterize anything about their leather one as heavy duty, though i'm not saying it's not a quality, respected sling. the leather is a bit soft and it slips very easily for my taste.

their synthetic one is the opposite. too stiff and won't slip at all. at first i thought this was great because i could shoot forever and not have to readjust my position due to sling slipping. but then i realized that i couldn't get in and out of this sling in the 3 minute prep period because it wouldn't slip.

i know, you just can't please some people....

February 14, 2013, 09:35 AM
I have a 1907 & a NM. Both are seconds, but my eyes can't find the imperfection. The NM seems a bit heavier leather. Lighter color, too.

I also have their biothane sling, and agree with taliv - that sucker doesn't slip a bit. Though I shoot rifle informally, my scores immediately jumped because I feel more stable. But yes, getting those keepers adjusted is tough. And to adjust length, I resorted to using an improvised tool to seat the holes in the frog hooks.

February 14, 2013, 12:08 PM
For the casual use you describe, any 1907 sling would work, even the cheap repros from Midway or Cheaper Than Dirt. As would a GI web sling, which is cheaper, and was also an issued item for the M1.

February 14, 2013, 02:52 PM
Another thng about the biothane slings is that the frogs will wear out the adjustment holes. I only got a couple of seasons (of hard use, mind you) before the holes were really chewed up.

I've since swapped out most of the slings on my competition rifles for slings by John Weller. A little pricey, but great slings that will stand up to hard use.

I do have a Turner (cosmetic second) sling on my 1903 Springfield. Since I only shoot it once a year at Camp Perry it sees little use and is holding up well. However, I did replace the keepers with some extra tight ones from John Weller.

February 14, 2013, 05:53 PM
I like the Turners. I think I have a half dozen or so of them, mostly seconds. They hold up pretty good IMHO. I use them 2-3 seasons on my competition match mule until they get broken in and softened up. Then I stick it on an M1 or M1903. They're stiff as heck at first and most casual shooter don't really like that--I've actually traded 2 or 3 of my used ones for brand new ones with guys on gun boards.

I also spent an evening and made up 2 dozen spare keepers to replace ones that had stretched out. Again, that's all with pretty heavy duty use.

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