Anyone recognize this rifle


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sta500rdr
February 14, 2013, 06:33 PM
I visited my aunt today and she had this old rifle come into her antique shop recently. It looks like it was a 22 caliber black powder rifle judging by the condition of the bore. However there are no markings other than the serial numbers. All of the numbers match. But I can't figure out what it is. Any help would be great.
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/FC21993B-D0B6-4F70-9CE5-96EEA71C5BFD-2974-0000025E2B653B81.jpg
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/6E6BFA27-6B3D-4547-B006-8A40500CEE21-2974-0000025E4634043C.jpg
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/00EE2A2C-A979-417D-94A4-F02A79167B8E-2974-0000025E416154A0.jpg
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/0F3A8511-856D-4E5E-839C-1694D9514459-2974-0000025E3BF28830.jpg
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/2AA4191B-8A42-497B-B8EF-195D2118C66F-2974-0000025E38467E74.jpg
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/C4BA78D7-6CD0-4D41-9A61-38AB5A367B22-2974-0000025E34E01AB1.jpg
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/5D94D2D2-F530-4CFF-8911-71B5F669CC4D-2974-0000025E30D8E478.jpg
http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w430/DoubleOXJ/7CCDEFD3-8819-48D8-B3DE-5437389A2DB5-2974-0000025E27F303BE.jpg

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jmr40
February 14, 2013, 09:17 PM
I have a 20 ga shotgun that belonged to my great grandfather built on the same frame. It is a falling block design. Your's appears to have the markings obscured by rust.

The markings on mine are partially obscured but on the left of the receiver mine says

JM MARLIN NEW HAVEN CONN USA
PATENTED FEBRUARY 1875
BALLARD'S PATENT NOV. 5 186?

Comparing the photo's I'm certain the frame is the same. Apparently they used the frame to make a variety of guns, both rifle and shotgun

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m513/jmr40/002-2_zpsf29f34b3.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/m513/jmr40/003-3_zps4902de4e.jpg

Smith357
February 14, 2013, 09:25 PM
Looks like a Ballard

http://cap-n-ball.com/ballard.htm

mokin
February 14, 2013, 09:34 PM
I can't help you with the identification, but the fit is wonderfull and even the finish looks pretty good for the age.

Both guns are beautiful.

Gordon
February 14, 2013, 09:37 PM
A Ballard or sure.

sta500rdr
February 15, 2013, 09:19 AM
Thanks guys!

Jim Watson
February 15, 2013, 09:31 AM
They are indeed Ballards which is a moderately famous old make and worth more than you might think. If you can get them noticed by the right people, they will be reincarnated as BPCR target rifles.

45lcshooter
February 15, 2013, 12:12 PM
What's the asking price???? Lol

sta500rdr
February 15, 2013, 01:56 PM
Yep. That's it! It's a ballard. Bore is ok. I can still see the rifling. It's not pitted too bad. Spring on the hammer is broken. For the most part it is complete. gotit for 75$. How did I do? I would love to make it shootable. It needs a few parts and some tlc.

Cosmoline
February 15, 2013, 02:22 PM
You did real good! I'd get a chamber cast on it. There were some obscure chamberings on those IIRC. I seem to remember some custom rounds made for the Ballard as well. Real tack-drivers.

sta500rdr
February 15, 2013, 03:59 PM
Looks like I am going to be starting a ballard resto thread.

Jim Watson
February 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
Accurate reproductions are made by Ballard Arms.
They sell parts, too.
http://www.ballardarms.com/parts_merchandise.shtml

HowlinMadMartin
February 15, 2013, 08:42 PM
I vote no refinish, it is way cooler with all that character and patina. Just get it up and running and enjoy it. Think of the conversations that could start from looking over such a fine old gun!:)

TurtlePhish
February 15, 2013, 10:03 PM
I vote no refinish, it is way cooler with all that character and patina.

+1, just take the surface rust off with oil and 0000 steel wool and shoot it!

Ash
February 16, 2013, 08:39 AM
I agree both on not refinishing it as well as getting a chamber cast. There were Ballard calibers that are not compatible with current ammo.

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