Please suggest a 10 rounds 9mm pistol.


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efeng9622
February 15, 2013, 10:51 AM
In case I have to sell my pistol which is more than 10 r,
1) First concern US gun. Not too old gun because still can get parts support.
2) Don’t want DOA gun. My favorite is SA/DA .
3) Price is not more than around $450.00.
4) Metal or alloy gun first , but still concern plastic one.

I have searched but found only a few such as S & W 39 ( too old, developed in 1954).

Thanks!

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Thaddeus Jones
February 15, 2013, 10:57 AM
S&W 3906., All stainless, 9 round mags +1 in the tube, bet your life reliable and tack driving accurate.

Only made for a few years. Superb single stack 9mm. :)

LNK
February 15, 2013, 11:04 AM
In case I have to sell my pistols which are more than 10 rounds,
1) First concern US gun. Not too old gun because still can get parts support.
2) Donít want DOA gun. My favorite is SA/DA .
3) Price is not more than around $450.00.
4) Metal or alloy gun first , but still concern plastic one.

I have searched but found only a few such as S & W 39 ( too old, developed in 1954).

Thanks!
If you want to buy a 10 round limited handgun, just look at the list of guns you can buy in MA. We are limited to 10 round magazines. I tried to find the list, but keep getting 404 error on all links I try.

LNK

psyopspec
February 15, 2013, 11:06 AM
It won't make the top of your list, but if your top picks don't work out consider a Glock 26. Price, parts, and US made. Not sure if the 26 specifically is US-made yet, but Glock is now shipping some models that are made here.

Godsgunman
February 15, 2013, 11:09 AM
A 3rd gen S&W is always a good option. Easily under your $450 price tag even now. A used CZ Rami is a very nice carry option also, tough to find though. For polymer frame Glock 26 is a good choice also.

efeng9622
February 15, 2013, 11:09 AM
Thanks! I will put it on my list, but I like black instead of silver , but it still can be concerned.

tarosean
February 15, 2013, 11:35 AM
Im guessing every manufacturer makes a 10rd version for the states that have mag cap laws.. Now it would be up to you to decide if you wanted to live with the thickness of a gun designed as a double stack and not be able to use it.

One of my personal favorites in your requirements besides the 3rd gen Smiths would be the Beretta 92 Type M (8 +1).

Teachu2
February 15, 2013, 12:53 PM
Just buy 10-round magazines for the guns you already own.

BigDaddyNEB
February 15, 2013, 01:01 PM
Ruger SR-9C

tuj
February 15, 2013, 01:25 PM
S&W 5906, they made 10-round mags for it during the ban.

alfon99
February 15, 2013, 01:48 PM
In case I have to sell my pistol which is more than 10 r,
1) First concern US gun. Not too old gun because still can get parts support.
2) Don’t want DOA gun. My favorite is SA/DA .
3) Price is not more than around $450.00.
4) Metal or alloy gun first , but still concern plastic one.

I have searched but found only a few such as S & W 39 ( too old, developed in 1954).

Thanks!
A Ruger SR9C or just an SR9 with a 10 round magazine. I tell you this because I've got one. But the cheapest way would be just buying 10 round magazines for the pistol you already got. Hope this helps.

psyopspec
February 15, 2013, 02:16 PM
What will be the purpose of the gun? In my post above I realized that I automatically assumed carry and therefore recommended a subcompact. If it were a night stand gun, plinker, or target pistol, that would change the answer.

efeng9622
February 15, 2013, 02:30 PM
teachu2, alfon99,

I am very interested your answer. But we need to make sure what is the new law exactly want to ban? Just ban magazine or ban the gun with this kind of magazine?
I got one S & W 915 15 rounds, I don’t know where I can buy a 10 r magazine for it. The question is if we can use retrofit magazine in order to keep this gun? If answer is yes, gun company should spend a lot of time to retrofit many different kind of gun's magazines.

S & W 5906 also have 15 r magazine. maybe it still be banned .

I pickup a section from New York new gun laws,
"Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year. If a magazine has a capacity between eight and 10, it would have to be retrofitted to only hold seven rounds."
Does that mean the laws bans the magazine only or ban the gun with this kind of magazine?

alfon99
February 15, 2013, 03:07 PM
teachu2, alfon99,

I am very interested your answer. But we need to make sure what is the new law exactly want to ban? Just ban magazine or ban the gun with this kind of magazine?
I got one S & W 915 15 rounds, I donít know where I can buy a 10 r magazine for it. The question is if we can use retrofit magazine in order to keep this gun? If answer is yes, gun company should spend a lot of time to retrofit many different kind of gun's magazines.

S & W 5906 also have 15 r magazine. maybe it still be banned .

I pickup a section from New York new gun laws,
"Magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds and manufactured before 1994, which are currently legal, would have to be turned over to authorities or sold out of state within one year. If a magazine has a capacity between eight and 10, it would have to be retrofitted to only hold seven rounds."
Does that mean the laws bans the magazine only or ban the gun with this kind of magazine?
I think it bans the magazine. It doesn't even mention the words "gun" or "firearm" and It would be stupid to ban the guns. And in fact theres no gun with "that" kind of magazine. You can always find bigger, or smaller capacity magazines for the same gun. About the law, what happens with the magazines manufactured After 1994?

Teachu2
February 15, 2013, 03:12 PM
You'll need to dispose of the mags over 7 rounds, and buy new ones that hold 7 or less. Someone will make them to fit your guns - it may take a little time.

If you have family out of state, ship the old ones to them. If the law gets overturned or you move, get them back!

efeng9622
February 15, 2013, 03:37 PM
I just found at least two websides show that S&W 915 has 10 rounds

magazine but all out of stock, I can wait to buy one. Just don't know buying magazine needs send to FFL dealer or not.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/smith-wesson-sw59915-round-blue-magazine-sw5910b-p-56756.html

alfon99
February 15, 2013, 03:41 PM
I just found at least two websides show that S&W 915 has 10 rounds

magazine but all out of stock, I can wait to buy one. Just don't know buying magazine needs send to FFL dealer or not.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/smith-wesson-sw59915-round-blue-magazine-sw5910b-p-56756.html
Well, now you know there are 10 round magazines for your pistol. I think It is a MUCH better option than buying another one. Good luck.

alfon99
February 15, 2013, 03:43 PM
I just found at least two websides show that S&W 915 has 10 rounds

magazine but all out of stock, I can wait to buy one. Just don't know buying magazine needs send to FFL dealer or not.

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/smith-wesson-sw59915-round-blue-magazine-sw5910b-p-56756.html
Also, I'll see if I can find a magazine in internet that is not out of stock. If I find one I will send you the link. Good luck!

alfon99
February 15, 2013, 03:51 PM
Everything out of stock, but here it says "Date expected in stock: 04/14/2013" but I think you'll have to wait a while! Here's the link: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/258375/mec-gar-magazine-s-and-w-5900-series-915-910-695-9mm-luger-10-round-steel-blue At least you know those magazines exist!

efeng9622
February 15, 2013, 03:51 PM
I found one on ebay, I can place bid but still have to wait 5 days,
just don't know if they need to send to a FFL dealer to transfer not directly send to me.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=s+%26+w+915+9mm+10+rounds+magazine&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Teachu2
February 15, 2013, 03:57 PM
No FFL needed - magazines are not guns!

TarDevil
February 15, 2013, 04:11 PM
Bersa

carbonyl
February 15, 2013, 04:35 PM
SR9C

cfullgraf
February 15, 2013, 04:50 PM
Smith and Wesson makes 10 round magazines for the M&P line of pistols.

These are not blocked larger capacity magazines but a different design. About the bottom third of the magazine is a plastic block that is the floor plate, albeit a couple inches long.

xXxplosive
February 15, 2013, 04:52 PM
I carry the Glock 30SF.....10 rounds of .45acp....better, IMO.

efeng9622
February 15, 2013, 04:58 PM
I just found one and already placed an order.

http://www.natchezss.com/brand.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=ZM&prodID=ZMSMI01&prodTitle=ProMag%20Industries%20S&W%20910/915/459/5900%209mm%2010%20Round%20Magazine%20Blue

Big Dave
February 16, 2013, 09:46 AM
In NY 10 round mags will be grandfathered in. They can only be loaded to 7 rounds. They do not have to be converted to only be able to hold 7 rounds. Ridiculous. Put 8 bullets in by mistake and I believe it's a felony.

BSA1
February 16, 2013, 10:28 AM
SR9C


Ditto!!!

lefteye
February 16, 2013, 03:42 PM
SR9C

Yes. I've had one for ... oh, about 2 1/2 hours. :D Gun show this morning. ;)

osteodoc08
February 17, 2013, 12:43 PM
Ruger P89

bill3424
February 17, 2013, 01:29 PM
Isn't some of the Glocks made in the USA nowadays? I'd say G26.

greenlion
February 18, 2013, 02:08 PM
He said he did not want double-action-only pistols.

That does REALLY narrow down your choices.

I can think of some of the older compact S&W like the 3913 which were single stacks, also the older Sig P220 which was a single stack magazine (not US made, I know, but you have really narrowed your choices down too much).

If you were OK with single action pistols, there are a bazillion 1911 types out there.

Why are you so against DAO guns? I admit I was a die-hard Beretta fan until I bought my first GLOCK and had that "aha" moment.

efeng9622
February 18, 2013, 10:29 PM
Why don't I like DOA gun? because I bought my first pistol S & W 9ve.
I felt that the trigger was so heavy and I had to use two fingers then I can pulled it.
Some one told me I can have a gunsmith to make the trigger lighter , but I didn't do it at that time and just sold it. after that , I had tried to find SA/DA if I want to buy pistol .I also can accept SA only. but I knew there a lot of new compact pistols are DOA. Maybe I will change myself late.

Buck13
February 19, 2013, 01:22 AM
Everything out of stock, but here it says "Date expected in stock: 04/14/2013" but I think you'll have to wait a while!

During the last week of December, I ordered a pair of 15 round mags from Midway, which IIRC were shown as backordered to 2/13/2013. I got an email on Saturday saying they had shipped, so basically right on schedule. I also had some brass ordered on backorder early in the year that shipped on time.

No guarantee, but it looks to me like Midway is pretty reliable about doing backorders only if they have a realistic expected date of getting the merch in their hands. Notice that most of the stuff like bullets and primers that are out of stock are on "no backorder" status. I assume this means they don't know when they will be able to get it.

miles1
February 19, 2013, 09:18 AM
CZ? Made in kansas city I believe.

Janos Dracwlya
February 19, 2013, 09:26 AM
I wish someone would start making a full-size single-stack 9; my wife has short fingers and very few full size guns fit her hands. Neither do some of the older single stack guns: Walther P-1, Sig 225, S&W *39* (all generations). I think something like a full-sized Shield might work, since the M&P is only just a little too large for her.

TarDevil
February 19, 2013, 10:32 AM
I wish someone would start making a full-size single-stack 9; my wife has short fingers and very few full size guns fit her hands. Neither do some of the older single stack guns: Walther P-1, Sig 225, S&W *39* (all generations). I think something like a full-sized Shield might work, since the M&P is only just a little too large for her.
1911's?

Janos Dracwlya
February 19, 2013, 02:15 PM
Nope. None of the 1911's she has tried have suited her. The closest thing to a 1911 that worked was a Star Model B, but they come with their own set of issues (lack of parts and magazines).

Thanks, though.

Atbat82
February 19, 2013, 02:37 PM
I wish someone would start making a full-size single-stack 9; my wife has short fingers and very few full size guns fit her hands. Neither do some of the older single stack guns: Walther P-1, Sig 225, S&W *39* (all generations). I think something like a full-sized Shield might work, since the M&P is only just a little too large for her.

My PPS with the 8rd mag provides a full grip. It's by no means a full size gun, but it's a single stack full-sized grip. The extender on the mag actually marry's quite well with the gun.

I've also found the Ruger SR9c has a really thin double stack grip. It's probably the thinnest double stack I've shot. If you haven't tried that yet it might be worth a look.


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TarDevil
February 19, 2013, 03:49 PM
I've also found the Ruger SR9c has a really thin double stack grip. It's probably the thinnest double stack I've shot.
+1. Superb ergos.

tomrkba
February 19, 2013, 04:17 PM
In case I have to sell my pistol which is more than 10 r,
1) First concern US gun. Not too old gun because still can get parts support.
2) Donít want DOA gun. My favorite is SA/DA .
3) Price is not more than around $450.00.
4) Metal or alloy gun first , but still concern plastic one.

You are in Virginia. Why would you have to sell a gun that holds more than ten rounds in the magazine? That's not going to happen in this state.

efeng9622
February 19, 2013, 05:23 PM
tomrkba,

I knew there is only very few chance will happen in Virginia if FD has passed new gun law.Most likely I can legally keep it.

Xelera
February 19, 2013, 07:07 PM
I second the Ruger P89. It's no longer produced, but only by a couple years. Still available for a decent price on Gunbroker or at local pawn shops.

Aluminum frame (no composite) and steel slide. It eats everything I feed it, from Winchester white box bulk, 115gr - 147gr, cheap laquered steel cased foreign imported ammo, custom hand loads... Never once had a fail to feed/fire/eject.

It is very over-built. I jokingly tell my friends it's the kind of gun that a tank could drive over, then you could pick it up, empty the magazine on the tank, then use the gun to beat the tank into submission. But seriously, save the ammo, beat the tank into submission to start with.

efeng9622
February 27, 2013, 10:42 PM
I received my 10 round magazine, looks like good. Don't know if the ban gun
bill are passed. How many 10 rounds magazines should be sold in order to keep
the gun?

mgmorden
February 27, 2013, 11:37 PM
I received my 10 round magazine, looks like good. Don't know if the ban gun
bill are passed. How many 10 rounds magazines should be sold in order to keep
the gun?

None of the currently proposed Federal level legislation requires that you give up pre-ban guns nor magazines (and most of what is proposed isn't likely to pass).

Pass or not, you're going through a lot of effort here for no reason. Besides, why struggle to stock up on 10-round magazines when those will be the type you'd still actually be able to buy after such a ban hits?

Also, for the most part ProMag magazines are pretty low quality. I wouldn't spent any significant amount of money on them.

wbwanzer
February 28, 2013, 07:56 PM
I'm confused. You are in Virginia, correct? Is Virginia considering changing their laws? Are you moving to NY? If not, don't worry about NY's laws.

skt239
February 28, 2013, 08:13 PM
I have not read the responses so I'm not sure if its been mentioned... Glock 26. With its flush mag it's easy to carry and also accepts larger glock mags making a some what full size gun.

efeng9622
February 28, 2013, 11:14 PM
Wbwanzer,

Yes, I am living in Virginia and not going to move to NY. I am sorry for confusing you. So far Virginia has no news to change gun law . Now I believe even FD government eventually passed new ban gun law. ( most likely not so easy), Virginia maybe doesn't 100% follow and execute that. I bought a 10 rounds magazine just for in case this kind of magazine becomes difficult to buy at that time.

desertgunner
July 19, 2013, 02:18 AM
Can anyone please tell me how I am supposed to clean a 17 round magazine that is permanently blocked to 10 rounds? That spring ain't coming out..When you practice at an outdoor range, you need to clean your mags..no way around it. I needed 2 extra mags and only could find a couple of blocked ones which work alright but now that they're dirty.....??HELP!

Tomac
July 19, 2013, 08:13 AM
Are there drain holes in the mag body so you can flush w/non-chlorinated aerosol brake cleaner?
Tomac

Hanzo581
July 19, 2013, 08:42 AM
I'll admit I didn't read the whole thread, but why is the OP having to sell his 10+ round gun? Moving? I see he is listed as living in Virginia.

EDIT: Ok it looks like he is just afraid there will be a law change in VA. There is no way that would happen, at least no time soon.

ku4hx
July 19, 2013, 09:46 AM
Can anyone please tell me how I am supposed to clean a 17 round magazine that is permanently blocked to 10 rounds? That spring ain't coming out..When you practice at an outdoor range, you need to clean your mags..no way around it. I needed 2 extra mags and only could find a couple of blocked ones which work alright but now that they're dirty.....??HELP!
Put it in a glass or plastic jar big enough enough to hold it but not too big (maybe a 40 oz peanut butter jar), pour about 2 inches of mineral spirits in it, secure the lid and shake. Depending on how dirty the magazine is, you may need to do this more than once.

Afterwards, shake the magazine to get as much of the MS out as possible and then allow it to air dry for several days. The MS will evaporate leaving just its normal pleasant odor.

Or you can sell it or trash it and get a better magazine.

Hunter991
July 19, 2013, 10:29 AM
Ruger sr9c

kokapelli
July 19, 2013, 10:41 AM
SR9C is a fine choice, but he doesn't want a DAO trigger!

ku4hx
July 19, 2013, 12:13 PM
SR9C is a fine choice, but he doesn't want a DAO trigger!
Trying to understand what you're getting at. The SR9c is a striker fired gun and every trigger pull is exactly like every other. It's trigger action is pretty much a clone of Glock's "safe action". Is this what you're referring to DAO?

I have several guns (AMT Backup for instance) that each trigger pull completely cocks the hammer and is long and "hard". My Smith 1006 and our Ruger KP90s do that on the first trigger pull if the hammers are down. Those are typically called DA/SA.

kokapelli
July 19, 2013, 12:44 PM
Trying to understand what you're getting at. The SR9c is a striker fired gun and every trigger pull is exactly like every other. It's trigger action is pretty much a clone of Glock's "safe action". Is this what you're referring to DAO?
Yes.

BLB68
July 19, 2013, 02:56 PM
Considering the last time the OP made a post was in Feb, it's probably a moot point.

ku4hx
July 20, 2013, 09:52 AM
Yes.
OK, just wanted to get your terminology straight in my mind.

mulyhuntr
July 21, 2013, 07:22 PM
I know its not a US made gun, but Look into a magnum research baby eagle. Full steel and the grip angle just feels awesome in your hand. I've got 25k+ rounds through mine, but she still shoots like a dream. Very similar to cz75 in design and an awesome shooter.

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