Looking for my first IWB concealable handgun.


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Cryogaijin
February 15, 2013, 10:13 PM
Nothing weaker than .380acp, nothing "fatter" than a 9mm, and I'd prefer american made over foreign.

Opinions? Suggestions? recommended holsters?

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smalls
February 15, 2013, 10:22 PM
Suggestion: go hold every gun that meets your criteria, price range, caliber, country of manufacture, etc. Shoot the ones that feel the best in your hand and point the most natural. Buy the one you shot best.

There are literally hundreds of guns within .380-9mm and American made. All you're gonna get here are people's favorites. Go find you're favorite.

Cryogaijin
February 15, 2013, 10:41 PM
I'd like to narrow the field a bit before I go firearms fondling.

smalls
February 15, 2013, 10:55 PM
Then do so by setting a price point, material (metal/polymer), etc. like I said, you could get hundreds of different responses here, and that's not going to help at all.

tarosean
February 15, 2013, 11:01 PM
I'd like to narrow the field a bit before I go firearms fondling.


Okay, but "nothing fatter than a 9mm" means absolutely nothing. For example a G17 is fatter than 1911's in 45acp, Hi Power's in 40sw, etc. etc. etc.

Might be easier to narrow it down by full size, compact, sub compact.??

Skylerbone
February 15, 2013, 11:14 PM
Can we start with what you currently shoot or have experience with and like? Most people understand small or lightweight but specifics like double action or must have an exposed hammer or a safety can further winnow suggestions.

Cryogaijin
February 15, 2013, 11:20 PM
All my current handguns are full size.

I currently shoot a tokarev (m57), xd45c, Witness 10mm fullsize, and a High Standard Sport King .22 rimfire.

David E
February 15, 2013, 11:23 PM
XD Compact.

Skylerbone
February 16, 2013, 02:41 AM
If it must be IWB my suggestion is thinner is better and find a good gun belt.

Kahr makes a host of single stack polymer pistols
Walther PPK
Beretta Nano
S&W Shield
Kimber Solo

I'd be happy with any of the above. I normally carry a Government Model because it's reliable and slim but once the holster for my Kahr is finished I plan on spending a lot of time with it. As you're already acquainted with the XD line it might make for a reasonable carry as well if you don't mind the extra width.

But...my suggestion would be to take what you have and try them out first. If you have an inexpensive holster, try fitting each inside the waist of your pants in proximity to where you'll be carrying. You might find your wardrobe unsuitable or carry uncomfortable in which case you'll have possibly saved a healthy sum not buying what doesn't suit you.

If there are no objections at that point, find a pistol and holster to fit you wants and budget.

mrvco
February 16, 2013, 02:59 AM
Kahr CW-9

I shoot it as well and almost as comfortably as my full-size range guns. Being a single-stack 9MM, it conceals with an IWB holster very easily. My only (albeit minor) complaint is with the price of extra mags.

Skylerbone
February 16, 2013, 03:10 AM
Not to be off topic but for Kahr magazines, when they're in stock: http://www.ivanhoeoutlet.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=43

Steep compared to Glock or a 1911 but a good many magazines these days run $35 or more which makes the Kahr a bargain.

Okie45
February 16, 2013, 05:44 AM
You could prob make that xd45c work well in the waistband with a crossbreed holster and good belt. You may want to try it before you commit to a smaller 9mm. I believe the xd45c has the shorter grip which is the hardest part to conceal. The 4 inch barrel is easy to conceal IWB. I usually carry an XDM45c and a friend carries a glock 30. Just have to adjust your wardrobe some. The only single stack 9mm I really liked that I was able to shoot was the Walther pps, but I couldn't justify buying a single stack 9 when I can carry and already own the 45, and when I can't, the LCP can fill in. Good luck with your search.

bannockburn
February 16, 2013, 05:50 AM
Cryogaijin

I would add the SIG P-238 and P-938 to your list as well.

Rubber_Duck
February 16, 2013, 06:33 AM
Kahr CW9 or P9.

Simmy952
February 16, 2013, 06:43 AM
I am a big fan of the Sig Ultra in .45. Use to carry a P238 till I compared the size of the P238 to the Ultra. With a Tommy Theis IWB holster, I could carry the Ultra and conceal the 1911 just the same. In my book, 8rd of .45 beats 7rd of .380. A good belt and holster are the key parts to comfortable and good IWB carry. My two favorites are Tommy Theis and Crossbreed. I also can carry a G23 well in a Crossbreed. My G23 or G27 are usually my EDC. Not really a fan of the Kahrs with the heavy trigger pull. Have not handled one yet but I have heard good things about the XDS 45.

CZ223
February 16, 2013, 06:51 AM
in a Milt Sparks VM-2 all day, every day. If that gets a little too heavy or I just want something different I switch to one of my Ultras in the same rig. If I were to buy something smaller right now it would be the Sig 938. It is basically a 1911 without the grip safety. I have an LC9 but no IWB holster for it right now, but that would make a very comfortable carry gun as well. The holster makes all the difference in the world.

breakingcontact
February 16, 2013, 09:44 AM
Suggestion: go hold every gun that meets your criteria, price range, caliber, country of manufacture, etc. Shoot the ones that feel the best in your hand and point the most natural. Buy the one you shot best.

There are literally hundreds of guns within .380-9mm and American made. All you're gonna get here are people's favorites. Go find you're favorite.

True story!

You can narrow it down by considering what action you'd like, manual safety or no...things of that sort.

meanmrmustard
February 16, 2013, 10:07 AM
I would suggest the Kahr CW9, but I'm currently carrying the Shield in 9mm.

I highly recommend it for IWB. Just leave the safety off if that bothers you as it is very positive and hard to engage unless you're trying.

Racinfan83
February 16, 2013, 10:17 AM
S&W M&P Shield - if you can find one! They make them in 9mm and .40. Right now they seem to be made of "unobtainium" - but I have seen them on Gunbroker. Feels like a "full size" with the extended mag in place, has an easily moveable safety, and is less then 1" thick. I got one for my wife right after they came out. I would trade my XD Subcompact in for one if I could find one here in a shop. XD Sub is nice - but the Shield is 1/4" thinner.
Like others have said - the feel and function of any firearm is the key. But the Shield is one of the best CC weapons I have ever handled. There is a REASON why you can't find one in a store and there are waiting lists a page long at the shops...

Just leave the safety off if that bothers you as it is very positive and hard to engage unless you're trying

??? I have no problem with the one I have?? Maybe there is something binding on yours? I just sweep my thumb down on the draw and it disengages every time...

hardluk1
February 16, 2013, 11:26 AM
This may help with compairing many but not all makes and models. use it after you try a couple to cover demensions of others.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B22wLsyYEkTOMDU4MjJlNTktOTRlZi00NTJkLWE0MGMtZmEwNGFlMWE3ZDlm/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1

I carry a kahrs. cm9 for pocket , cw9 for iwb and now have a tp40 to work in to the mix.

TarDevil
February 16, 2013, 12:49 PM
SigP290, Ruger SR9c, Taurus 709 (among many others).

Of the above and others, my single stack choice would be the 290 or Shield. Double stack, the SR9c has been incredible for me.

Cryogaijin
February 17, 2013, 12:34 AM
Exactly what I was looking for Hardluk1

BamAlmighty
February 17, 2013, 12:46 AM
Sig 938
S&W Shield
Kahr CM/PM 9
SA XDs

I personally carry a Sig 938, have carried a Kahr CM9. Currently looking to add a S&W Shield to my collection.

I don't recommend a Beretta Nano or Kimber Solo, they are ammo picky. All the others I have shot various ammos without a problem.

Cryogaijin
February 17, 2013, 01:05 AM
Bam:

Know any good places in PDX to put hands on a good variety of these guns? So far I haven't had good luck looking around.

Deer_Freak
February 17, 2013, 01:23 AM
I would have no problems carrying the XD45c IWB. You need to just shoot some guns. Right now I carry a ruger P95 IWB. The ruger is larger than your 45. Just get some pants that are 2" to large and a decent holster. I carried a Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 7.5" barrel just shoved in my pants for a couple years. I was working 24 hour shifts when I carried the Ruger.

Pukindog12
February 17, 2013, 04:14 AM
Try the site below. You can compare different handguns.

http://www.genitron.com/

rodinal220
February 17, 2013, 12:19 PM
Kahr K9/K40 and a Milt Sparks EX.

bill3424
February 17, 2013, 12:24 PM
I'll say G26 or G19. Comp-Tac MTAC or if you want leather...a Milt Sparks would work. Just have to wait a long time.

Truly, you have to go out there and get the feel of each gun. They all have different angles, textures, etc. What works for me, may not work for you.

Airbrush Artist
February 17, 2013, 04:11 PM
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meanmrmustard
February 17, 2013, 04:17 PM
??? I have no problem with the one I have?? Maybe there is something binding on yours? I just sweep my thumb down on the draw and it disengages every time...

It's not that it doesn't work, its that I don't WANT it. But, its there. For those that own the Shield, but are like me in that they think a safety on a DAO pistol is like teats on a bore hog, then leave it off. It would take a deliberate manipulation to engage/disengage it.

That's the saving grace.

rtba
February 17, 2013, 05:26 PM
Unless you're looking for pocket size but you want slimmer (single stack), you might consider the Walther PPS if you want SA, or the SIG P239 if you don't mind DA/SA and the extra weight of metal versus polymer.

Pukindog12, thanks for the genitron.com link -- nice!

BamAlmighty
February 17, 2013, 06:43 PM
Bam:

Know any good places in PDX to put hands on a good variety of these guns? So far I haven't had good luck looking around.

At the moment you are SOL.

You might be able to find the Kahrs in stock, but the others are going to be chance encounters until demand slows.

slickab
February 17, 2013, 07:21 PM
Kahr PM9

ApacheCoTodd
February 17, 2013, 09:13 PM
I hate to steer folk towards a pistol that I still want two more of but our Sig 230SL is just the bee's knees for IWB (front side or back), inside front pocket, inside my wife's purse, wherever. Smooth as, well, a Sig - safe as the day is long and as accurate and reliable as can bee.

One very pleasant slim shooter.

.380 by the way.

tomwalshco
February 17, 2013, 10:05 PM
Absolutely, positively -- Kahr PM9. Need something for pocket carry -- Kel-Tec P3AT. Both need a good break-in period, but great after that.

I've tried them all - really - and liked most of them, but for carry, it's the 2 above ^^^

Skylerbone
February 18, 2013, 02:02 AM
I must say that some of the more popular suggestions really ought to be handled first. As much as I like Kahrs, they are far different in trigger feel when compared to many popular polymer frame pistols.

I converted my father to a Kahr for carry and have one in my own rotation as well but freely admit they aren't for everyone (initially).

RedAlert
February 18, 2013, 05:25 PM
I second "rtba" on his suggestion of the Sig P239. It is available in 9mm, .357Sig and .40S&W, I purchased mine in .40 S&W and just recently bought a .357Sig barrel for it. One way to protect against ammo shortage in one caliber or the other. I use a Theis IWB holster and it wears well all day long.

Dean1818
February 18, 2013, 05:38 PM
+ 5 on the Shield

EBK
February 18, 2013, 08:36 PM
Well I carry a Fullsize 1911 and SD40 which is also fullsize IWB so got any more details on what ecxactly you are looking for?

Ala Dan
February 18, 2013, 08:45 PM
S&W Shield~!

Ignition Override
February 19, 2013, 01:31 AM
The Sig 232 is .2" thicker than the Walther PPK, and .5" longer: "Wikipedia".

It's very doubtful that used prices of a good 232 could compete with the Bersa's used price-if this is an issue at all.

danimoth17
February 19, 2013, 02:59 AM
In the PDX area I have had the best luck at The Gun broker, they have a couple locations i only ever go to the Clackamas one but they always have a good selection of smaller guns. i picked up mine there a couple weeks ago.

Keiths sporting goods in Gresham has an even larger selection but i havent been there in a few months so i dont know what there stock looks like but they are the largest seller in the area.

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