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Safety First
February 2, 2003, 07:23 PM
What works for you for summer carry? Best shirts,pants,gun,method of carry...Ok all you long time pros,help us new comers to CCW with your best advice..As always, thanks..

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DeltaElite
February 2, 2003, 07:26 PM
I wear a fanny pack year round, since it is almost always shorts and t-shirt weather here year round.
Heck, it's 82 today and sunny. :D

HS/LD
February 2, 2003, 07:33 PM
I carry the same way year round and live in Colorado where there can be temp extremes.

In the Waist Band Galco summer something or other, with an H&K USP stuffed inside it.

I t-shirt over it in the summer and a jacket over that in the winter.


I can never understand the rationale behind changing a rig for summer carry vs. winter

HS/LD

El Tejon
February 2, 2003, 07:58 PM
Like anything, it depends. A combination of different factors. A good holster and belt are the primary factors.

The same rig should be worn whatever the weather. A linen suit really helps too as it gets to be 99 and 99% humidity around these parts.

If you get a day off then I like yuppie scum wear. I like khaki pants, a short sleeve shirt for the Territory Ahead catalogue. If I want to hide it, I wear a V-neck T-shirt underneath my other shirt. If you dress down like Delta, you can go with dual T-shirts (or just one if you're tough).

durango
February 2, 2003, 08:25 PM
Are there any good fanny packs out there (that don't scream "gun inside"). Might use for hiking or summer wear. What are you guys using?

Glock_PhD
February 2, 2003, 09:36 PM
A nice thin holster inside a pair of khaki pants is the best start. Then a t-shirt with a light buttom up short sleeved shirt over that. Its nice looking, its certainly a cool way to go in the hot Florida summer. And it is certainly effective.

goon
February 2, 2003, 09:45 PM
You gotta wear it high, and close to the body.
I can carry my P-225 that way wearing just a light t-shirt and it is completely concealed.
I just have to be careful when I bend over or stretch.

cratz2
February 2, 2003, 10:08 PM
When I see a guy with a fanny pack not on a beach, I think, 'Gun'.

Same thing when I see a guy outside of California and not on the beach wearing shorts, a tucked in t-shirt and an overshirt over it.

Of course, most people that would care probably don't think about it.

Yuck Mouth
February 2, 2003, 10:32 PM
I wear Ben Davis work shirts over a t-shirt. The work shirts are kind of 'stiff' so the gun won't print. You can wear IWB or OWB.

Heres the shirt.

http://www.zootsuitstore.com/Shopping/assets/thumbnails/bendavisstripesm.jpg

http://www.zootsuitstore.com/Shopping/assets/thumbnails/benshirtsm1.jpg

Baba Louie
February 2, 2003, 10:44 PM
Well, If you go to Circus Circus and get one of their pink fanny packs...

You blend right in here in Las Vegas.

Other times you may want to wear an IWB holster (buy your britches an inch or two larger) with a vest (not a photographers vest... too obvious) or a sports coat/overshirt, Hawaiian shirt, golf shirt for cover.

After a while you don't even think about it, you just dress that way automatically.

I've also got a heavy leather vest from Coronado with built in pockets for carry.

One of the "belly bands" can be used. I've got one in black and one in white. Uncomfortable at first. Does tend to keep the "gut" tightened up and the ladies just love the svelte look (LOL)

When I carry/wear the black fanny pack, it tends to go over one shoulder with the bag hanging under the arm, but it's not real quick to access, so you've got to be in a Condition Yellow and pre-think your draw while looking for cover. (Sound too paranoid yet?)

There's always the notebook/planner carry device. But you can misplace one of those if your wits aren't about you at all times.

Then again, some like a smaller weapon (mouse gun anyone?) in a pocket holster stuck in a front pocket or in a coat pocket.

Thunderwear? For some. Not moi.

When you're on the beach and wearing your speedo's... you're on your own. Can't help ya there.

Your choices are many. Hope that helped.

Adios

another okie
February 2, 2003, 10:50 PM
L.L. Bean makes shirts in their "traveler" line which are designed to worn untucked, with flat bottom hems, and which come in long sizes.

Dave R
February 2, 2003, 10:56 PM
IWB is no problem even on the hottest days.

Start with "cargo" shorts or jeans shorts, so you can wear a decent belt with them.

Then just wear a t-shirt or golf shirt untucked.

Another good option is the shorts, with t-shirt tucked in and a hawaiian shirt or gaucho shirt over.

Of course, a P-32 goes in any pocket, anywhere...

JPM70535
February 2, 2003, 11:03 PM
Completely agree with summer carry in Florida. A stiff belt, an IWB from Galco carried behind hip, tucked in tight, heavy T-shirt over it and no one knows. If it shows, try Mexican Carry same position. Even a light T-Shirt hides it.


Rule number one, in a gunfight, have a gun!!!

boing
February 2, 2003, 11:23 PM
For when the weather is hot-hot and I care about being discrete, I've given up on carrying my "real" guns and bought a KelTec P11. It rides invisibly using any number of concealment methods.

:cool:

Diesle
February 2, 2003, 11:47 PM
Small, small, small. The new Kel Tec looks like a promissing compromise between size and strength.

If im in pants in the summer, its on my ancle. More space available. If Im in shorts, it'll be in the pocket. Must be small yet reasonable powerfull...

Although, a propperly placed .22 ..... you know the rest.....

Diesle

V-fib
February 3, 2003, 02:28 AM
smartcarry holster. I can carry even if I'm just in a swimsuit. :cool:

Kahr carrier
February 3, 2003, 06:49 AM
Pocket holsters or Fanny pack.:)

JohnBT
February 3, 2003, 11:25 AM
What works the best? Girlfriend in a short sundress.

Nobody notices what I'm wearing.

John

Roadrunner
February 3, 2003, 12:08 PM
I carry a concealed Glock 23 year round in a Dillon Master holster. One of the best tips I can suggest is buying some polos or t-shirts one size larger then you normally wear. That will leave a little extra room to prevent the handgun from "printing" against the fabric of the shirt. I also wear a Hanes tank-top under the shirt to help prevent perspiration getting to my G23. This has work very well for me over the last several years.

TheFrontRange
February 3, 2003, 12:46 PM
I've been carrying a full-size 1911 for a little over a year now, all year long. I carried mostly 4-inch Smith K-Frames or a Ruger P95 before that...I've held a CCW for eleven years now. Whenever possible I opt for a strong-side pancake-style holster and cover it with either an untucked shirt, a vest, or a sportcoat depending on where I'm going. If I can be casual, I'll usually wear a good heavyweight t-shirt to insulate me from the gun and then cover with an untucked golf or button-down shirt.

At times I do opt for fanny pack carry and use a wonderful Galco rig that my father-in-law bought me some years ago. It's light grey in color, not "tactical black," so maybe it's not as obvious.

Once I lose some flab from the waistline I'm going to try some IWB holsters...I already wear a size 38 waist in pants and can't stand the thought of having to buy 40s to accomodate an IWB holster! Vanity, vanity, vanity... :)

Shooter 2.5
February 3, 2003, 12:56 PM
Galco Royal Guard with a Springfield Armory Ultra-Compact .45.

I can wear a t-shirt or flat bottomed shirt with no problem.

ChristopherG
February 3, 2003, 01:12 PM
Jeez, am I the only one pocket carrying a J-frame here? Maybe all those other snub carriers just aren't clicking this thread 'cause they've got this problem licked;)
cg

Safety First
February 3, 2003, 07:08 PM
Some good tips so far...How about your favorite retailer and Brand name clothing.... also,lets talk about vests...is there any such thing as a good quality vest at a reasonable price??What has been your experience with vest for ccw???

Jesse H
February 3, 2003, 07:09 PM
Instead of a t-shirt as an undershirt I switch to 'wifebeaters.' Same gun and holster all year long.

Alan Smithiee
February 3, 2003, 07:38 PM
thunderwear style holsters can also be worn on the hip. I can get away with one with CCW a Ruger P-95 wearing sweats and a t-shirt. also, the kind of "hip bags" that you see around, the littlecarry alls for daytimers and cell phones pens etc etc. around here we have lots of students and they all carry them so there not out of place (and can be pretty fast if you practice).

as for fanny packs, look around and try to notice how many people in your area wear them. that will tell you if there stealthy or not.

sierra1
February 3, 2003, 08:14 PM
I call it the "tourist" look. Carry a "point-and-shoot" camera around your neck, and a corresponding camera bag on your belt. People automatically assume the bag is for the camera. Make sure the bag will fit the camera AND your weapon of choice, in case you do have to stow the camera. Add a zipper pull of your choice to the bag, and you're good to go.

The camera bag doesn't scream "gun!" like the fanny pack does. In fact, it's a little disarming - people just think you're just a harmless tourist out snapping photos.

:cool: :cool: :cool:

TexasVet
February 4, 2003, 12:02 AM
Nylon "walkman" carrier that clips to your belt. It has a compartment in front, normally for the player, which is handy for notebooks, multi-tools etc. In the back there is a second area for carrying a CD in case. My little Backup 380 DAO fits in there perfectly, and the stuff in the front hides the print. Works great.

TheFrontRange
February 4, 2003, 12:29 AM
.... also,lets talk about vests...is there any such thing as a good quality vest at a reasonable price??What has been your experience with vest for ccw???

I've heard a mixed bag of comments about the vests from Concealed Carry Clothiers, including some posts here at THR about them. Ditto the leather vests from Coronado. I don't own one of their garments yet but want to try one. It would seem they're considered a lot lower-profile than the photo/safari/hiking-type vests.

I personally have been using the photojournalist-style vests for a few years now. I have two, one in khaki, the other olive. I know to "gun people" and cops they're considered obvious...but where I live (greater Birmingham, AL) they don't seem to stand out too terribly much. In fact I'm seeing more of them out and about lately...used to be the only place I'd see people wear them were at the gun shows! :)

Seriously, I've had folks that I know are non-gunners asking about them and remarking they really liked them. Ultimately, for me, these vests are comfortable, convenient, and they cover my handgun and spare ammo like nobody's business.

Mine are from Fox Outdoor Corporation and are comparable to anything I've seen at Banana Republic, Cabela's, etc. Super quality, vented mesh back for ventilation, and the trademark pockets and epaulets. Most seem to run from $50 to as high as $90, but I found mine at a local outdoors shop (Roger's Trading Company) for $45 a pop...my wife was kind enough to buy me two for my last birthday!

Funny thing about those vests, though...whenever I'm in the likes of Academy Sports and Outdoors or WalMart, I'm often mistaken for a store employee! :)

labgrade
February 4, 2003, 02:33 AM
I'm in the "why change?" crowd.

IWB/BHP year-round. Summertime gets shorts & maybe a bit blousier shirt. I like the flats-type fishing shirts - lotsa pockets, great ventilation, long tails, arms 'n stuff for sun protection, etc.

I'm 6'5" & about 180# Stuffing things about my body appears that I'm smuggling auto parts or some sad thing, but have CCWd a BHP for years now with not a notice.

Something brought up in Handguns General & bears repeating here.

Nobody's really looking at you - except for fellow CCWers & possibly an LEO-type. CCWers don't care & if you're legal, LEOs don't matter.

Not 1 in 1,000 are gonna "make" you & if some busybody wants to know about that "unsightly bulge," you always have the option of saying "cell phone" or "none of your business."

&, this is the Year of the Sheep. ;)

P12
February 4, 2003, 10:48 AM
I was in the Mall about 3 weeks ago. While in Beals I saw a man wearing cowboy riding boots, jeans, western short sleeve shirt and a cowboy hat. Wallet was in his left hip pocket and a can of snuff in his right hip pocket. He was wearing a low hung strong side fanny pack.:D

My wife asked me why I was laughing. The dude saw me, I said hi and he had a puzzled look on his face.

I later explained it to my wife. She saw the humor but was more discrete.

Talk about screaming gun! :cool:

When I explained to my wife what I had seen, I also made the statement of "brethren of the good side":cool:

I'm of the camp of "I don't care if I print". Most people are in condition white.

Roadrunner
February 4, 2003, 01:57 PM
Regarding vests, get yourself a fleece vest and no one will know what you're carrying. I've got a couple of lightweight polartec vests and heavier ones for winter.

I use the vest during the cooler months before summer arrives. I also like oversized button-down shirts, something like cotton or flannel shirts. I'll wear a t-shirt or polo tucked in, G23 in a Dillon pancake Master holster, and cover with the button down shirt. No one will know what you're packing under your casual attire.

TheFrontRange
February 4, 2003, 02:12 PM
get yourself a fleece vest

Roadrunner, where did you get your fleece vests? I may have waited too late in the "fashion season" this year to find one, but I've been looking for a month now for a nice, medium- to heavy-weight vest for CCW. Academy, Eddie Bauer, and the department stores seem to be out.

Jack19
February 4, 2003, 03:17 PM
I'm also one of those people who carries the same thing all year round. Although I will switch from OWB to IWB in the summer.

Dark, untucked, Polo type shirts cover a multitude of sins.....and long grips. The truth is that most people will never ever notice because they just aren't looking.....including cops.

Poohgyrr
February 4, 2003, 04:15 PM
Dittos on what DaveR posted, that works here in our 90 to 115 degree summer heat.

And I really like JohnBT's post, but my wife might have an issue with it. :cuss: Guess I'll have to take her clothes shopping again. ;)

Year round, IWB/BHP or G23.
A bellyband or ankle covers the slacks/shirt/tie/ and no jacket or outer cover situations.

Lately I've been looking at 3" & 4" N frames, IWB & boot grips. Also a very comforting combination. :D

Riphalman
February 4, 2003, 07:41 PM
Your way is my way. Especially the "none of their business" part. The decision to carry is a highly personal one.

Roadrunner
February 5, 2003, 10:08 AM
TheFrontRange,
I got my fleece vests and other related clothing at a local outdoors store "Hudson Trail Outfitters" here in Northern Virginia. There are many brands available. I have ones by Layers, Mountain Hardware, and The North Face. The Layers fleece vest are well made and relatively inexpensive compared to the North Face vests.

Check your local sporting goods store, Sports Authority, even K-Mart, Target, Wal-Mart, etc.

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