Jennings 32cal pistol a co-worker wants to sell me.


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98f150
February 18, 2013, 04:48 AM
I work with a guy thats willing to sell me his Jennings 32 cal auto pistol. He only wants $500 for it and will let me make three payments on it to pay it off. I think this would be a good CCW weapon and want to know what this forum thinks.

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ColtPythonElite
February 18, 2013, 04:50 AM
I wouldn't give 50 bucks for a Jennings. No, it would not make a good CCW piece.

Shadow 7D
February 18, 2013, 05:15 AM
OMG
you are kidding right???

GOOGLE: Ring of fire guns, no wait, you are thinking about this, here's a link
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/ring/hazard.html
Na, buddy, you can buy one NEW for less than 200, most wouldn't bother to use one as a fishing weight.

Bryco, jenning, locrin, raven...


EDIT:
if you want cheap, consider a Military Surplus gun like the Polish P64, or a German P6, or a Czech CZ 82 (techinally Vz.<-but this usually gets used to tell the rifles from the pistols)
Or buy a Kel Tec P32 (the are safe and even WORK) or a Kel Tec P3AT, or a Taurus, or a Ruger, or a Bersa.....

Diamondback6
February 18, 2013, 05:59 AM
Good heavens, WHY? For the same final cost or close to it you can get an entry-level 1911 in most of the country...

As prior posters noted, plenty of cheaper and better options out there in more effective calibers.

Shadow 7D
February 18, 2013, 06:06 AM
Good heavens, WHY? For the same final cost or close to it you can get an entry-level 1911 in most of the country...

As prior posters noted, plenty of cheaper and better options out there in more effective calibers.
NOTHING is cheaper than a ring of fire
MUCH higher quality (hell even a Hi-Point is better quality)

Less expensive would be correct.

Carl N. Brown
February 18, 2013, 06:21 AM
... willing to sell me his Jennings 32 cal auto pistol. He only wants $500 for it ...

THAT is not cheap for a .32 Jennings. IIRC correctly, that is 3x the factory MSRP. NEW it was a $150 gun. The only Jennings that stands up to even moderate use is the J22 .22LR (if one holds up to the first 100 rounds you have a keeper) and I considered mine used borderline overpriced at $75 in 1988.

critter
February 18, 2013, 06:28 AM
At least one (maybe two) too many zeros on that price.

bikerdoc
February 18, 2013, 06:54 AM
Walk away from any Jennings, no matter the price.

meanmrmustard
February 18, 2013, 06:55 AM
What did you do to anger this coworker that he's trying to pass off a Jennings as a 5 bill gun?

71Commander
February 18, 2013, 07:06 AM
I wouldn't give you 500 pennies for one.

MedWheeler
February 18, 2013, 07:08 AM
A tick over one of those "payments" will get you a Kel-Tec P32, which will have a safer DAO trigger, no manual safety (not necessary with a DAO), a 75-percent weight reduction, a 25-percent size reduction, greater durability and reliability, and an additional round in capacity.

I'm still wondering if you didn't mean fifty bucks instead of five hundred (or ten guns instead of one!)

Incidentally, I do have a Jennings J-22, purchased new in 1987, for around $55 if I remember right. It's a functional piece, and I've had some fun with it over the years. But it's by no means a defensive piece for me.

rjrivero
February 18, 2013, 07:38 AM
PS. Your co-worker hates you and thinks your dumb.

ku4hx
February 18, 2013, 08:10 AM
I work with a guy thats willing to sell me his Jennings 32 cal auto pistol. He only wants $500 for it and will let me make three payments on it to pay it off. I think this would be a good CCW weapon and want to know what this forum thinks.
Surely this is a joke. But I understand the seller's position. I have a slightly used 1999 Ford F150 I'd like to sell for $50,000. And if somebody offers me a bank check for that amount, the truck is theirs along with a set of spare keys, the tool box and every tool in it.

Brin
February 18, 2013, 09:47 AM
I paid $20 bucks for a Jennings 32 cal with 4 mag’s.:neener:

tarosean
February 18, 2013, 10:56 AM
Honestly, I think Im speechless..

Fryerpower
February 18, 2013, 11:12 AM
Here is a brand new one for $120.

http://www.fivesevenammo.com/shop/page29.html

Walt Sherrill
February 18, 2013, 02:16 PM
I'm glad you said "co-worker" and not "friend." I would be wary of that guy.

He must think you're dumb -- or you think we are and this is your idea of a joke. (Sort of like "trolling" but with a light-hearted intent.)

Bovice
February 18, 2013, 02:56 PM
No, you don't want that. Save up some money and get something reputable.

jrdolall
February 18, 2013, 03:07 PM
I have a Jennings C9 that is okay. Don't shoot it a lot but it is reliable when I do shoot it.

I think I paid $80 or so in the box with 2 mags.

71Commander
February 18, 2013, 03:19 PM
I paid $20 bucks for a Jennings 32 cal with 4 mag’s

You got swindled.

Snowdog
February 18, 2013, 03:51 PM
From your other posts on this forum, I suspect you're knowledgeable enough to well know the reputation of Jennings and are just joshing around.

However, if you must, look for a Davis P380. It's what the secret service uses and can chamber and fire anything from a .380acp to a .30-30Win, but expect to pay a premium.

Kiln
February 18, 2013, 04:51 PM
There's nothing wrong with cheap guns as long as you're willing to work with them a bit to get them working well. I wouldn't recommend one as a CCW personally because there are many better options.

$500 is extremely high for that gun. $100 is about the normal value of a used Jennings or Bryco pistol in any caliber.

Bovice
February 18, 2013, 04:55 PM
$100?

No way.

Kiln
February 18, 2013, 05:11 PM
Gunbroker sells them all the time for $80-$100.

Jim K
February 18, 2013, 06:08 PM
Just smile, say it isn't what you are looking for, and thank him for thinking of you. No hard feelings that way. And don't repeat what the folks said here.

Jim

ryan3465
February 18, 2013, 07:18 PM
My friend had a J-25 (the .25 ACP version, IIRC), the front end sheared off and the slide came off the frame. I wish I had a phone with picture capability because I couldn't believe it myself. And that price is insane. I would say $75, 90$ MAX

MedWheeler
February 18, 2013, 09:56 PM
jrdolall writes:

I have a Jennings C9 that is okay.

Actually, the C9 is a Hi-Point product. If you have a Jennings, it's more likely the JA-Nine.

miles1
February 18, 2013, 10:13 PM
NO!

Mike Kerr
February 18, 2013, 10:23 PM
This thread is very funny. Thanks for the laughs the OP has provided.

regards,

:):):)

Swing
February 18, 2013, 10:41 PM
Have'n had a .22 model go kaboom on me, I wouldn't take a Jennings for free. Buying one for five bills is simply unbelievable. There be a lot of quality .32 Autos for sub-$500, so run, don't walk, run from this "deal."

280shooter
February 18, 2013, 10:47 PM
run far and fast, 500 bucks..? thats crazy talk...
I have a tp 22. and had it for over 25 years,, not much issues, but I paid like 75 bucks new,,, so run fast and far from that 32 for 500 buck,,,there are other nice hand guns out there, my buddie bought a keltec. in 32,,he loves it,,

jrdolall
February 18, 2013, 11:40 PM
Actually, the C9 is a Hi-Point product. If you have a Jennings, it's more likely the JA-Nine

You are correct. The Jennings is actually a Jennings-Bryco and is a J-9. I paid less than $100 for it and it has been fine for a safe queen. Then again what isn't fine for a safe queen. I actually like the sights on the gun.

wow6599
February 18, 2013, 11:43 PM
Tell him you'll give him another $500 if he throws in another mag......and never talk to him again.

Texan Scott
February 19, 2013, 01:14 AM
I once destroyed a Jennings 380 in a BBQ grill. Melted the chrome off it and warped/ deformed the cheapo internal parts, distempered the frame and slide. Destroyed the grill in the process, too. Didn't even use thermite.

I consider myself "gifted" with fire. :D :D

JoePfeiffer
February 19, 2013, 01:16 AM
I have no interest (not the seller, don't have a bid in, don't ever want to own a Jennings) in any of the auctions listed here, but a quick look at gunbroker.com may give some perspective on the value of a Jennings pistol. Pay particular attention to the values of the ones that actually have one or more bids. http://www.gunbroker.com/Firearms/BI.aspx?Keywords=jennings

Dnaltrop
February 19, 2013, 01:49 AM
One of my best friends has a Bryco... I paid him $50 towards a new gun to let me disable it.

Cokeman
February 19, 2013, 03:07 AM
Can you get him fired?

PRM
February 19, 2013, 03:26 AM
A Jennings will make a good trot-line sinker. Or, if you could pick one up for a few dollars and get $50 or so at a buy-back, you could always finance your ammo stash. BUT, $500 for a keeper - NUTZ.:what:

Kiln
February 19, 2013, 03:31 AM
The small caliber Jennings guns aren't nearly as bad as most people will TELL you they are...without actual experience in many cases. The larger caliber guns (380 and 9mm) often do have lifespans measured in hundreds of rounds.

I know for a fact that not too long ago I saw several guys chime in on these forums that they had small caliber Jennings guns that worked fine. Specifically the J22 and J25.

Onmilo
February 19, 2013, 03:49 PM
P.T. Barnum said "There is a sucker born every day." If you pay $500 for a Jennings, you ARE that sucker.

MedWheeler
February 19, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jrdolall writes:

You are correct. The Jennings is actually a Jennings-Bryco and is a J-9. I paid less than $100 for it and it has been fine for a safe queen. Then again what isn't fine for a safe queen. I actually like the sights on the gun.

I like the looks of the JA-Nine more than those of the C9 Hi-Point; I actually find the Jennings kind of handsome for its price point.

JoePfeiffer
February 19, 2013, 04:32 PM
I think 98f150 was joking.

We can hope...

rondog
February 19, 2013, 04:35 PM
I work with a guy thats willing to sell me his Jennings 32 cal hand grenade.

Fixed that for you.

Roadking Rider
February 19, 2013, 04:53 PM
http://www.gunsamerica.com/997217439/Guns/Pistols/Jennings-Pistols/JENNINGS_MODEL_38_32_AUTO_LIKE_NE.htm

JohnBT
February 19, 2013, 04:57 PM
"I paid $20 bucks for a Jennings 32 cal with 4 mag’s"

I assume the mags were full of ammo you needed?

InkEd
February 19, 2013, 11:20 PM
Is that American money or the bills that come with the Monopoly game?

Sun Tzu warrior
February 21, 2013, 10:20 PM
LMAO! 98f150, thats a good one!

icanthitabarn
February 21, 2013, 11:16 PM
Please stop this

ColtPythonElite
February 21, 2013, 11:22 PM
Somebody must have a Jennings...

nwilliams
February 21, 2013, 11:52 PM
I wouldn't pay 500 cents for a Jennings!

Actually yes I would, then I would take it to a gun buy back and get $50 for it!:D

Clark
February 22, 2013, 01:32 AM
Someone gave me a Jennings Bryco 38 380 without magazine.
So when I bought a magazine, I had money invested.
I have tested it for overloads, with other pistols that I have had to pay money to get.

I find there are different classes of 380s, given case support, chamber wall thickness, recoiling slide and maybe barrel mass, recoiling slide friction and hammer cocking force, and recoil spring force.

1) wimpy class 1.5X published loads
a) Kel Tec P3AT 380
b) Ruger LCP 380

2) medium class 2X published loads
a) Jennings 38 380
b) Kahr P380 380

3) Heavy duty 3X published loads
a) Beretta 1934
b) Husqvarna - Colt 1907

Shadow 7D
February 22, 2013, 01:42 AM
Clark, both the KT and it's clone the Ruger, use a browning tiltblock lock system, the rest are blowback, so.. explain, I would think that they would be more than that.

Clark
February 22, 2013, 03:02 AM
The first thing I am up against is case support.

The Kel-tec P3AT has ~ .29" of unsupported case.
If I measure it by scribing with a needle on an unfired case in the barrel out of the pistol, I get measurements ~ .010" shorter than if I work up to a case bulge, and measure the distance from the case head to the edge of the bulge.
This must be due to the width of the needle plus how much the case gets pushing back in the chamber.

The Ruger LCP is ~ .27"
Bryco feed ramp at .215"
Kahr P380 .175" which is all the way back to the extractor groove... perfect
Beretta 1934 perfect
Browning 1903 perfect



The real limits are:
Kel Tec ....... bulge at 1.5X
Ruger........ bulge at 1.5X

Kahr.......... Recoil becomes horrible, bulge will never be a problem. Springs are very good, but the slide is too light for atomic loads.

Bryco Jennings ........ bulge, but a bulge at 2X loads

Beretta....... chamber will bulge at 3X loads.... got a new barrel

Colt husqvarna..... could not hurt it at 3X loads.

What does it all mean?
The chain is only as strong as the weakest link, and the Kel-Tec and the Ruger have extremely weak links in their case support.

Cokeman
February 22, 2013, 03:43 AM
It means P380s are awesome! :evil:

icanthitabarn
February 22, 2013, 07:39 AM
If this was for me, heck no, I wouldn't take one for free. The thread just seemed long enough but if others like it, than fine

Carl N. Brown
February 22, 2013, 07:57 AM
The larger caliber guns (380 and 9mm) often do have lifespans measured in hundreds of rounds.

I explained the Jennings 9 to my son this way: the Jennings 9 is the kind of gun a person on a budget buys for home defense with one 50 round box of ammo. The owner fires two magazines for function and a feel of what the gun does. It then goes in a bedside table drawer. Twenty, thirty years later at estate auction, there will be listed one Jennings 9 with a partial box of ammo, 50 rounds less two magazine loads. It is not a gun for monthly target practice, it won't take it in my not so humble opinion.

On the other hand, as ugly as the HiPoint C9 is, it will stand up to frequent target practice sessions.

jrdolall
February 22, 2013, 08:35 AM
On the other hand, as ugly as the HiPoint C9 is, it will stand up to frequent target practice sessions.
My HiPoint is the ugliest gun I own but I can fire 17 rounds as fast as I can pull the trigger and change the mag and it never has an issue. I have had plenty of Kimber and other high dollar gun owners shoot it and just look at it and shake their heads because it actually shoots extremely well, is relatively accurate, has acceptable sights and everything else you DON"T expect in a gun purchased from a pawn shop for less than $100.

If it ever jams I could definitely throw it and hurt someone. It is HUGE for a single stack 9mm so it just rides around in the truck all day. I don't think we ever do a range session without shooting a few mags through it so I have no idea how many rounds have gone down the barrel. The J-9 is rarely shot.

Torian
February 22, 2013, 08:37 AM
I hope this coworker isn't a friend of yours. I would recommend neither the gun or the caliber.

tinroad37e
February 22, 2013, 08:40 AM
For the love of god, don't buy it!

Certaindeaf
February 22, 2013, 09:18 AM
I always keep some magic lint in my pocket for just such trading occasions.

Giterboosted
February 23, 2013, 12:51 AM
I tell people at work, if its what you want, it's all you can afford, then I'll sell it to you but I assure you it's a piece of Crap before you buy it

khegglie
February 24, 2013, 09:21 AM
OP offer him $550.00 firm!

Ditchtiger
February 24, 2013, 09:49 AM
My friend had a J-25 (the .25 ACP version, IIRC), the front end sheared off and the slide came off the frame. I wish I had a phone with picture capability because I couldn't believe it myself. And that price is insane. I would say $75, 90$ MAX
I had that happen to a .25 I had years ago, same model.
Replaced the slide and sent it down the road.

threefortyduster
February 24, 2013, 10:04 AM
Was this a troll post? Seriously?

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