Military Surplus Picture Thread


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February 18, 2013, 07:47 PM
Let's see your military surplus firearms!

Here's mine

Tell me if the pics don't work.

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February 18, 2013, 07:57 PM
M59 Yugo SKS (gone, regret it)

Double date MO-marked hex Tula 91/30 (gone, regret it)

Tula SKS (gone, don't really regret it, cleared the way for the M59)

'48 M44 (still got it, never getting rid of it)

February 18, 2013, 08:04 PM
Hello friends and neighbors// "Civil " War weapons count?

If someone showed up with these, to use fighting, during the "Civil" War,... I'd let them stay.

1851 Colt, .36 cal, DOM 1861
1840 era percussion shotgun, unknown maker.
1840 era U.S. Peace Flask
1883 The Spy of the Rebellion, details the beginning of the U.S. Secret Service, by A.J. Allen (Allen Pinkerton)

February 18, 2013, 08:09 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // How bout a couple of WW1 leftovers from 1917.

1917 S&W, .45acp w/ 1917 holster and America First WWI era Medallion
1917 Colt, .45acp w/ Vintage Bone Grips, refinished

February 18, 2013, 08:42 PM
Ok since you asked...

1941 Lithgow No1 MkIII* with a 1917 Australia marked bayonet.

February 18, 2013, 09:10 PM
Hello friends and neighbors// Woops... just noticed this is Rifle Country, the Mauser threw me off.

Here ya go.

Top: Arisaka with Mum, from the Japanese First Arsenal, pre 1917, with 1st style Bayonet.
Battlefield pick up from Tarawa, was on the tag, so it was used until early WWII.

Mid: 98Gew Mauser, untouched

Bottom: 1869 Swiss Vetterli , with a partial box of .41 rimfire. It would have been nice to have a 12 shot in 1869.:D
The ammo is worth as much as this sporterised example of the old Military rifle. (anyone have a forearm going to waste?)

February 18, 2013, 09:27 PM
Content, yes civil war weapons count.
Robert, that is a beautiful Enfield.

Very nice guns, all of you!

February 18, 2013, 09:39 PM

(From left to right)
Russian SKS 1954
M44 1946
91-30 1934
HRA M1 - Correct grade CMP 1955
K.Kale Turk Mauser 1944
Turk Mauser 1939
Lee Enfield - No. 4 Mk. 1 1943
SA M1 - Service grade CMP 1955

February 18, 2013, 10:02 PM
Gee, musicman, that's not fair.

February 18, 2013, 10:50 PM
Gee, musicman, that's not fair.
I'm still working on it. There are several C&R guns that are on my list to buy but I just can't find them for the right price or in the right condition. I love the history aspect of collecting old military guns.

February 18, 2013, 11:11 PM
It`s a Turk...................

February 18, 2013, 11:32 PM

February 19, 2013, 12:02 AM

February 19, 2013, 01:34 AM

unless im overlooking it you seem to be a 1903 short.:)

But that is a sweet collection, whats the origin of that Fn 49?

February 19, 2013, 01:38 AM
I did have a 03A3 but sold it a while back and the FN 49 is Egyptian 8mm ;)

February 19, 2013, 03:00 AM
I did have a 03A3 but sold it a while back and the FN 49 is Egyptian 8mm ;)

very nice i want an fn 49 so bad

February 19, 2013, 05:36 AM
My milsurps:

February 19, 2013, 08:54 AM
Wow, nice collections!

February 19, 2013, 09:27 AM

February 19, 2013, 10:14 AM
It`s a Swede, Husqvarna m/96..............

February 19, 2013, 10:30 AM
'taint much: HRA & Springfield Garands

Col. Plink
February 19, 2013, 11:18 AM
I'll see if I have some I haven't posted yet...

-Yugo M59 SKS carried by a "Dano" in the 90's regional conflict
-early 50's Springfield M1; a mechanical gem on a Danish return stock

February 19, 2013, 11:29 AM
Beautiful pix guys. Love the collection. I am looking to buy my FIST milsurp, and you have all inspired me.

February 19, 2013, 11:52 AM
A couple of 'em...

February 19, 2013, 01:44 PM
wow great rifles!!

February 19, 2013, 04:49 PM
Here's some photos of the only milsurp I currently own. A beautiful Service Grade 1944 Springfield Armory M1 Garand I purchased from the CMP:

February 19, 2013, 05:53 PM
Fishbed, that is georgous!

February 19, 2013, 06:46 PM
Great collections guys :)

February 19, 2013, 07:37 PM

February 19, 2013, 07:40 PM
Garand Winchester 1944, SA barrel 3/55, ME 0+, TE 1+, replacement birch stock

February 20, 2013, 08:14 AM
A late RIA assembled at SA and a Smith-Corona. The RIA is in RI wood and a NS RI bolt.


Newest arrival, 1898 Krag rifle.

Inland carbine

NM Garand

February 20, 2013, 03:06 PM
great guns, nice photos

February 20, 2013, 04:05 PM
I assume modified rifles don't count? I have a bunch of military bolt guns that no longer look military.

My first reaction was "I don't have much in the way of original military rifles." But it turns out I do have a couple. More than I first thought.

A classic:

Another classic:

All original including offensive markings:

Odds and ends...

February 20, 2013, 04:20 PM
1923 CZ-Brno Vz.98/22; served in both Czechoslovakia and the Turkish Republic. 7.9x57mm

1919 Steyr-Mannlicher M1895, with evidence of Czech and Bulgarian service. 8x56mmR

1943 Fazakerley No4mk1 Lee-Enfield. restored with parts from a No4mk2. .303UK

February 20, 2013, 09:07 PM
Them is some nice rifles guys, here is another one, it`s MAS 49/56............

February 20, 2013, 09:47 PM
Post #30 . . . . . beautiful!

February 20, 2013, 09:48 PM
Remington 1903A3 and Springfield 1903. I have a thing for 1903s.

February 20, 2013, 09:55 PM
This picture's already on THR elsewhere, but...

February 21, 2013, 02:27 PM
Nice collections guys ;)

February 21, 2013, 11:20 PM
US & Assorted Foreign Long Arms (and a Nazi Walther P38 that tagged along)

February 21, 2013, 11:33 PM
Left to right:

1.Finnish M28-30, 7.62x54R
2.Norwegian Krag M94, 6.5x55
3.Preduzece 44 K98, 7.92x57
4.Swiss K31, 7.5x55


February 22, 2013, 02:04 AM
Would be way too many images to post but here are a few of my more unique acquisitions...More to come...

Carcano M91 Rifle

Dutch M1895

Enfield No 1 Mk3 with magazine cut-off

With rare P1903 Lee Enfeld SMLE Bayonet

Gew 98 "Transitional" Rifle

Polish M44 - Unissued

Military proofed Ithaca 12g - Used to train bomber gunners during WW2

February 22, 2013, 02:53 AM
Sporterized 1926 Lee Enfield NoIIIMk1 shtle and a 1952 Tula SKS

Thinking about trying the Enfield in next years white tail season. I'll have to see how I'm feeling.

Ignition Override
February 22, 2013, 03:05 AM
Very nice.

ZEN.45: Heel mooi, tres belle!
And you guys also understand the camera/computer 'thing'. Wish that you could see my family.

February 22, 2013, 06:53 AM
Here is a beauty that is pretty much one of a kind! It's a Persian short Mauser presented by the Imperial Iranian Air Force to one Col. Wu-Ping-Chung. I have not been able to find much history on this rifle. I've received an offer or two from a few collector buddies though and I may bite, as I'm trying to finance another project or two. I sure would like to know this particular rifle's story, though!

February 22, 2013, 06:54 AM
Hello friends and neighbors// Might as well add these.

Winchester, 1897, .12ga.
Smith Corona, 1903A3, .30-06
Remington Model 11,. 12ga. w/ Cutts compensator, WWII door gunner trainer.
Springfield, M1 Garand, .30-06 ,, returned Danish (VAR barrel)
Underwood, M1 Carbine, .30cal. ,, CMP
Marine issue Kabar

February 22, 2013, 06:58 AM
Hello friends and neighbors// nwilliams,, outstanding group!

I have never seen a Military stamped DB shotgun.
TYVM for showing me/us where to look for the FB, certainly a Pearl.

February 22, 2013, 09:57 AM
1906 Springfield '03 with 1918 Winchester 1897 Trench gun:

1918 Springfield '03

1942 Remington '03

1943 Remington '03-A3

1943 Smith-Corona '03-A3

1917 Winchester M1917, rebuilt at Ogden during WWII and inspected by Elmer Keith.

1943 Underwood M1 carbine

1884 Trapdoor Springfield made in 1890

1942 Stevens 720, US property marked

1917 Swedish M96 FSR rifle

And while not rifles, I bet these two C96 Broomhandle Mausers could tell a tale or two. Sold to China in the 1920's and used by every faction during the turmoil from Sun-Yat-Sen through WWII to Mao's revolution.

ol' scratch
February 22, 2013, 04:07 PM
The Rifles trom top to bottom

Daisy 853 surplus pellet rifle
1903 Springfield (1927)
Danish Return M1 Garand (1944 Springfield with correct lockbars, VAR barrel)
Type 1 National Match M1 Garand (1955 Springfield 5.9 mil, NM marked type one barrel)
Correct M1 Garand (1955 HRA)
Kimber Model 82 Government (1987)
M 1891/30 Mosin Nagant PU Sniper (1943 Izhmash, true sniper with matching numbers on mount, scope bolt butt plate, restruck magazine floor plate)

P64 Radom (1974)
FN Browning Hi Power (1986, I think it is an Israeli and a bring back as it is not import marked)
CZ 82 (1984)

February 23, 2013, 02:21 PM

My Persian Carbine

Yankee John
February 23, 2013, 03:19 PM
I have a couple Mosin Nagants.... :uhoh:

And my byf 41 Mauser K98k.

Sam Cade
February 23, 2013, 03:30 PM
2.Norwegian Krag M94, 6.5x55
Do want.

That is one of my "Grail" rifles.

February 23, 2013, 04:03 PM

February 23, 2013, 09:05 PM
WOW! Beautiful collections, everyone!

ifit- the color of your 91/30's wood is so nice- did you do some work on it?



February 23, 2013, 09:32 PM
Here's the two I own- hoping to expand as soon as I am able to afford it... :o

1942 Izhevsk Mosinka, Model 91/30. Has an excellent bore, but needs minor touch-up work on the crown. Has a shimmed trigger and some bolt work, as well as some action 'bedding.' A 2 MOA rifle or better with commercial ammunition when I do my part. Pictured here with sling and 1 round of Hungarian FMJ lead core "heavy ball" 185 grain ammunition.

The Mosin paired with its companion, my M1855 Rifle Musket in .58 cal (which is a reproduction, but uses an original buttplate and a few other original parts...I think). You can see the Rapine Minie I use in the right hand corner. A friend of mine tuned the lock on this gun, taking the trigger weight down to 3 lbs and it breaks like thin glass. Other custom work was done by Lodgewood Mfg in Whitewater, WI, including the fitting of the original buttplate.

Beautiful guns, everyone!


February 23, 2013, 11:48 PM
thanks chris, its how it came when i picked it up from my lgs. gonna leave it as is, kinda diggin the old school cherry look. ordered 2 mosin stock sets from aim surplus for me to mess around with. what i found pretty cool is that the bayonet it came with has matching serial number as the rifle:)
and yes everyone here got some beautiful rifles:cool:

February 24, 2013, 12:26 AM
Some of the most beautiful rifles Ive seen...

February 24, 2013, 12:37 AM
Here is my contribution to this thread from top to bottom:
1936 Hex receiver Mosin Nagant M91/30
H&R M1 Garand
1936 Mauser K98

February 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
My only two. M44's. Recently acquired, both for around the $150 mark. Both Russian, . . . top is 1944, bottom is 1946.

February 24, 2013, 05:46 PM

February 25, 2013, 01:22 PM
HRA service grade M1 with friends (NPM and Inland M1 Carbines, Springfield M1s, Ishy Enfield, '03s)

February 25, 2013, 01:27 PM

February 25, 2013, 01:28 PM
Not rifles, and some are not milsurp...

February 25, 2013, 01:41 PM
My only Mauser, Vz.24

Some vids for those who like "moving pictures" :D

3 garands different finishes

M1 Garand in "practical" rifle match LOL

HRA M1 closeup and shoot

Inland M1 Carbine quick look and shoot

1903 MKI quick look and shoot

Smith-Corona 1903-A3 quick shoot

Close-up CMP service grade birch with BLO and Tom's 1/3 mix

1941 Walther P.38 close up, quick look

February 25, 2013, 05:00 PM
Ok since you asked...

1941 Lithgow No1 MkIII* with a 1917 Australia marked bayonet.
Wow. And I thought the bayonet on the MN was impressive!

February 25, 2013, 05:15 PM
AWE-inspiring collections gentlemen. Yamamoto was right - a rifle behind every blade of grass (and this thread's not even considering the modern and new stuff we all have!).

February 25, 2013, 10:23 PM
Great collections guys!

February 26, 2013, 02:48 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // Great examples folks, some of you really know the tricks for photographing rifles, well done.

I'll add a few more, mostly foreign military.

Savage Enfield
Swiss K31
Hungarian Mosin Nagant
Finnish Mosin Nagan
Danzig Mauser "sporter"

S&W and Colt 1917 (again)

February 28, 2013, 08:31 AM
Hello friends and neighbors // Picked these up in early Sept. 2012, pics are from sighting in day.

Just inventory photos but not many of these represented here yet.
I really need to get the camera back out, sorry for the poor quality.

1805291898 Springfield, 30-40 Krag

1805281917 Remington Eddystone //1903A3 again,, both .30-06

180530Remington 513T ,Military trainer, .22
180531Enfield Jungle Carbine, .303 British

More satisfying to shoot these than my words can describe.:D
The 1917 is always a crowd pleaser.

February 28, 2013, 10:30 PM
My WWII/Cold War collection thus far. Not pictured are the #s matching CYQ P-38 that just came in last week and the Kar98k I ordered that's on its way here currently.
February 28, 2013, 10:39 PM

February 28, 2013, 10:39 PM
My WWII/Cold War collection thus far. Not pictured are the #s matching CYQ P-38 that just came in last week and the Kar98k I ordered that's on its way here currently. Nice! How do you like the Tokarev?

March 1, 2013, 12:58 PM
Nice! How do you like the Tokarev?

I found it's more accurate than I am. It's a Yugo M57 that I got late summer last year for $200 with 2 mags and a holster in like new condition. Took awhile for AIM to get any 7.62x25 in stock and I've only gotten it to the range once so far. Took awhile on the cosmoline removal too. The pistol is rather 1911 like.

I noticed the price on all the Tokarev variants has jumped already, so I'm glad I ordered when I did.

March 1, 2013, 05:47 PM
I found it's more accurate than I am. It's a Yugo M57 that I got late summer last year for $200 with 2 mags and a holster in like new condition. Took awhile for AIM to get any 7.62x25 in stock and I've only gotten it to the range once so far. Took awhile on the cosmoline removal too. The pistol is rather 1911 like.

I noticed the price on all the Tokarev variants has jumped already, so I'm glad I ordered when I did. I would really like to get one sometime. My friend has one but I have never shot it.

March 2, 2013, 01:10 AM
How does the VZ 52 shoot, is she pretty accurate, I was thinking on getting one of those or a Spanish FR-8 :)

March 2, 2013, 10:59 PM
Been working on updating my SKS to a more modern look.

My Enfield MK4 #2 with a reproduction scope and mount.

K98 sniper with reproduction scope and mount.

Mosin Nagant 91/30 sniper with reproduction scope and mount

M1 Garand CMP rifle.
March 2, 2013, 11:22 PM
With the 5 rounds I was able to find, its alright, nothing fancy. Ammo is quite hard to get. go with the FR-8.

March 3, 2013, 09:46 PM
You folks have great guns!

March 3, 2013, 09:48 PM

Yes it's a plug.... But it's also a cool video.

March 4, 2013, 04:44 PM
Nice HDR photos Robert! Awesome firearms all!

March 4, 2013, 05:44 PM
Not my best pictures, but here are my three Finnish M39s:
Sako Sk.y Civil Guard Rifle and the other is Belgian Barreled
This one is an early '70s "Sneak".

March 6, 2013, 03:59 PM

March 6, 2013, 04:14 PM
some of yall have some nice milsurps... most of mine are pretty beaten but...

1912 springfield 1903, 1942 Savage enfield NO4MK1*, and 1942 izzy MN
chinese type 56 SKS
Arisaka type 44 and type 99
don't own either of these anymore but one is a 1903A4 sniper and one is a fawx sniper I made for a friend out of his bubbad 1903MK1

March 6, 2013, 04:17 PM
MAS36, pretty beaten to hell and don't hit nothing I aim at but she has character.

also not in the picks are brand new to me service grade 1944 springfield M1 Garand that I received yesterday... the last one... now the only springfield receivers they have left are converted to 308 and special grade mix masters.

also have a bubba'd 91/30 thumbhole sporter and enfield no 4 in a half passable 45ACP conversion.

March 6, 2013, 05:40 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // Nice group, I like character!

Especially in old Mil surps.

March 6, 2013, 09:00 PM
Just took this for a bayonet thread, figured I'd put it here too:
VKT M39, 1941 Tikkakoski barrel on an 1897 Sestroryetsk receiver. Bayonet is a repro, sadly.

March 8, 2013, 01:48 AM
that's an interesting bayo, I didn't know anything from that time period was so short, all the ones I've seen are dang near half a sword.

March 8, 2013, 10:50 AM
that's an interesting bayo, I didn't know anything from that time period was so short, all the ones I've seen are dang near half a sword.

Yeah, it's stubby for the rifle. The Finns weren't as big on bayonet fighting as the other militaries of the time. These mostly got used as utility knives. Not many were made, either, and hardly any survived. If you can find actual original Finnish bayonets, they'll fetch a higher price than the rifle they go on.

March 9, 2013, 05:50 PM
Here are some more for you all.......

March 9, 2013, 06:48 PM
You guys make me so jealous!

March 9, 2013, 07:51 PM
Here are my Mosins and US milsurp (bless those guys at the CMP). Left the SVT out of the Mosin pic. I shoulda added my 1855 and 1861 muskets and 1873 Trapdoor to the US picture.

Also don't have pics of my Brit, German or Japanese collections.
March 9, 2013, 08:21 PM
I... I think I have a problem...

I had to fill the bedroom too. that's 6 or so hours of cleaning...

March 9, 2013, 10:05 PM
My goodness, looks like you got enough there to arm a small third world country ;) Looks like you bought a milsurp every chance you got when you had the dough to spend, nice collection :)

March 9, 2013, 10:33 PM
I... I think I have a problem...

And I thought I had a problem!:eek:

There might be a 12 step program out there for people such as yourself.....;)

March 10, 2013, 12:23 AM
The only problem you have dark zero x is you need more space! Keep those beauties protected from bubba for at least 1 generation more!

March 10, 2013, 06:22 AM, yeah, your camera is out of focus or shaky.
And you need some racks, or something.
And one has an ugly yellow tag on it.

Otherwise, where's the problem?

March 11, 2013, 12:21 PM
Dark zero are you looking to sell any of those enfields? :)

March 11, 2013, 01:35 PM
The first step is admitting you have a problem. Seriously,, that is a metric butt ton of milsurps!

March 11, 2013, 03:06 PM
The second step is admitting it's a GOOD problem. Nicely done!

March 11, 2013, 03:39 PM
Hey, that's a decent collection there - counting out duplicates (photos at different angles), I'm figuring you have around 50 or so milsurp rifles. Are you focusing on any particular eras, countries or themes?

IMHO, one only has a problem when you start skipping over life's essentials for a hobby. When you have to skip meals, or a date, or other fun because you're sunk yourself too deep in a hobby, that's where one might want to re-examine one's priorities. And this goes for any sort of collecting. I knew of one guy who was collecting automobiles. Basically the dude had no real furniture to speak of, and could not join the guys out very often - everything was sunk into acquiring and maintaining his hobby. That's where things clearly go over the top.

March 11, 2013, 03:48 PM
That about says it all, guys! :)

hang fire
March 12, 2013, 05:04 AM
Finn 1942 Sako M39: (IMO, most accurate milsurp ever)

Two 1968 no name like new Finn M39 rifles:


Swede 1942 Husky M38:

K. Kale M1938 Turk mauser:

French Mas 36:

1943 Remington Rand 1911A1:

March 12, 2013, 10:32 AM
Here are my Mosins.

March 12, 2013, 11:03 AM
I used to wonder why someone would have more than one mosin. Until I got mine. I would be hard to have to many mosins.

March 13, 2013, 01:42 AM
I had a 03a3 traded it for my FN 49,, say almost 20 years ago.

March 13, 2013, 12:16 PM
My lovely FR8 is pictured below. It is the first surplus gun I bought. I absolutely love the feel and handling of it.

Below is my Tula SKS-45.

March 14, 2013, 12:37 PM
I love the dark finish on that sks!

March 15, 2013, 12:33 PM

March 15, 2013, 08:09 PM
I am envious of all of the beautiful rifles.I am so sorry that my father and I sporterized our DCM 03A3's back in the 60s after we paid the huge price of $15 each. Hindsight is always 20/20.:cuss:

March 20, 2013, 06:41 PM
Just got a new one! This is a Chatellerault MLE 1892 MAC 1935 French Lebel cavalry carbine. It is chambered in 8X57R Lebel(8mm Lebel). Very short and weighs 7 pounds.
En blocs are on the way and I'm bidding on ammo. If anyone has any 8mm Lebel they want to sell let me know .

March 20, 2013, 06:54 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // Nice snag/save on the Lebel.

Bought my Hungarian Mosin because it has similar "spalted" wood, looks better to me at least, well done.

Just wondering about the bent bolt, is it set up for a scope? Or I guess because it is Calvary issue.

March 20, 2013, 06:56 PM
Just wondering about the bent bolt, is it set up for a scope?

No that is just the way the 1892 cavalry carbines were.

Anybody know how much it is worth? I paid $100 at an auction Monday night for it.

March 20, 2013, 06:57 PM
Would need a wide angle lens...have 13 Mosin Nagants for example. :neener:

March 21, 2013, 10:21 PM
My old stuff.

April 30, 2013, 09:20 PM
Added a few more, a MAS 49/56, Arisaka Type 99, Steyr M95, Finnish M39, Mosin 91/30, and Spanish FR-8 (

April 30, 2013, 09:37 PM
Vegas--how did you get a scope mount on an M91?

May 16, 2013, 06:33 PM
My camera is on the fritz. But I have 12 Mosin Nagants, one Winchester 95 chambered in 7.65X54R for the Russians in WW I, 4 Mausers, ! K98, 2 M48's, and a M48-A, 3 Steyrs, an Austrian, a Hungarian, and a Bulgarian contract. Two M1 Garands, an SA and an HR. A Type 99 Japanese Arisaka, 3 Swiss, a 96/11, K11, and K31. 2 Lee Enfields, a N0.4 Mk.1 and a No.5 jungle carbine. An M98 Nagant revolver, a CZ82, and a Romanian Tokarev.

Just traded a Walther P-1 pistol away.

May 16, 2013, 08:38 PM
Hello friends and neighbors // gandog56 /// The Winchester 95, would be outstanding in 7.62x54mmR.
Where did you pick up that jewel?

May 16, 2013, 08:50 PM
Sks is Gorgeous music man, GORGEOUS!

May 16, 2013, 08:53 PM
Vegas--how did you get a scope mount on an M91?
theres a dove tail rail under the rear right, It can be a pain to take off. i needed a blow torch for mine.

Doug S
May 16, 2013, 08:58 PM
I don't have any stand alone pictures of my Milsurps, only a Man Cave picture. The first is an older one, but it shows more detail of the guns... (

...the second is a more recent photo, but doesn't show the guns well, and is pretty washed out. (

In the pictures (bottom picture from left to right)...

1942 Izzy Mosin Nagant 91-30, (on corner cabinet) 1939 Tula Nagant Revolver, 1943 BSA Shirley No4Mk1, 1944 Rockola M1 Carbine, 1944 Springfield Armory M1 Garand, 1939 Mauser K98, 1940 Type 38 Nagoya Arisaka, Series 1 (Probably early 40's Nagoya Type 99 Arisaka.

May 17, 2013, 01:24 AM
Real nice man cave!

May 17, 2013, 08:53 AM
Awesome guns and mann cave!

Doug S
May 17, 2013, 09:06 AM
Thanks, I appreciate the kind comments. I had a partially finished, unused room in my basement, and a bunch of collections boxed in closets. I figured I'd combine them and get some enjoyment out of them. I have a men's Bible study that meets in my house each week, and the "Man Cave" is a nice "masculine" setting for it, even if it freaks out a newbie every now and then (especially when they come in and catch us detail stripping a Glock or some other firearm minutes before the study begins.

Other collections in the room are fossils, Civil War artifacts, Native American artifacts, WWII newpapers framed on all the walls, pocket knives, old hunting supplies, archaeology equipment, etc. The room has a living room furniture setting area, and a kitchenette with microwave, fridge, table and chairs. It's put together almost entirely from items I had stored, that weren't being used. It may not be pretty, but it's mine, and my wife had objections to me displaying all of my junk in her living room. Go figure ;-)

May 17, 2013, 09:33 AM
I have an FN-49 in 30-06

May 18, 2013, 12:59 AM
I am in complete AWE ! of all those collections, mine is so pitiful compared to those.
I need to befriend some of you guys for a "plinkin party". anyway here's a couple of 8mm's.
184133 184134

Ignition Override
May 18, 2013, 02:43 AM
I finally spotted two Enfields in your superb collection!
Without that discovery, the only medication to stop my spiral into despair would have been a shot of Mountain Dew.

At least you guys understand how to put photos into computers. You'll probably never see my collection.

hang fire
May 18, 2013, 09:23 AM
Swiss K31.

May 18, 2013, 01:22 PM (

May 18, 2013, 02:36 PM

May 18, 2013, 03:03 PM
The P38 and Kar 98K came in since I first posted in this thread. (

stan rose
May 18, 2013, 03:18 PM
Am I mistaken, or are those photos taken at Blue Mountain Sportman's Center in Montrose? If so we should get together and shoot.

May 18, 2013, 10:42 PM
Here's a pic from the range this last week; my February 1918 RSAF-Enfield SMLE MkIII* and my 1923 Czech-Turkish ZB Vz.98/22.

May 18, 2013, 11:43 PM
Here's mine,

Argentine Mauser 1909
Tula SKS 1954....Unfired
Mosin 91/30

May 19, 2013, 08:07 PM
HaHa, thanks Ignition Override, I just bought a VZ-52 rifle to add to the collection, just waiting for it to arrive at my FFL dealer :)

May 19, 2013, 09:30 PM
Am I mistaken, or are those photos taken at Blue Mountain Sportman's Center in Montrose? If so we should get together and shoot.
Yep, I used to be a regular there every weekend and holiday. Seriously cut back on my shooting time until all this NY gun law and ammo scare stuff has calmed down a bit.

May 20, 2013, 12:28 AM
Chicom SKS


Winchester Garand

SA Garand

IBM Carbine

May 20, 2013, 12:29 AM
That is an awesome G-43, congrats on that one !

HK, Nice collection also !

Dentite, you are right, that is one Sweet Krag !! nice caliber too !

May 20, 2013, 01:05 AM
I have previously only bought original configuration military rifles but I couldn't turn down this sporterized Norwegian Krag in 6.5x55 for $250.

Shot it for the first time a couple weeks back and it was sweet. Mild handloads for this one. ( (

May 22, 2013, 10:59 PM
Nice collection guys!

July 2, 2013, 05:41 PM
I would need a wide angle lens for all my milsurps. 12 Mosin Nagants, 1 Winchester 95 in 7.62X54R, 4 Mausers, 3 Steyr M95's, 1 SKS, 1 TT-33, one Japanese Arisaka, 2 M1 Garands, 1 M1985 Nagant pistol, 3 Swiss, and them is just the ones I remember off the top of my head. One of my better investments was the C&R license, which means they get shipped right to me and no transfer guy (or fee) needed

July 3, 2013, 09:34 AM
I would need a wide angle lens for all my milsurps. 12 Mosin Nagants, 1 Winchester 95 in 7.62X54R, 4 Mausers, 3 Steyr M95's, 1 SKS, 1 TT-33, one Japanese Arisaka, 2 M1 Garands, 1 M1985 Nagant pistol, 3 Swiss, and them is just the ones I remember off the top of my head. One of my better investments was the C&R license, which means they get shipped right to me and no transfer guy (or fee) needed

The sad thing is, I don't need a wide angle lens for ALL my guns. :( MY brother has a C&R so I get the benefits of it. :)

July 3, 2013, 11:41 AM
I rescued this Remington made 1903 that had been sporterized. I put a new stock on her and found a 1950 Weaver K3 scope to bring her back to more how she should look. I think she looks much better now.

July 3, 2013, 07:47 PM
Thanks for sharing. (


July 7, 2013, 01:27 PM (

July 17, 2013, 08:38 PM
im subbing this

July 17, 2013, 09:29 PM

July 17, 2013, 10:45 PM
I need to take more pictures. Here's my 1915 New England Westinghouse Mosin Nagant. All numbers match, and has all American parts - some of the bolt parts are Remington. The NEW is kept company by a 91/30, M39, and the newest one, a Yugo M48 Mauser. (

July 17, 2013, 10:55 PM
Rescued another Bubba, man these are fun projects! Both are Remington 1903's that had been sporterized, they look much better now.

July 17, 2013, 11:49 PM
Here is my 1933 hex Tula M91/30. Nothing special and is all numbers matching after it was re-arsenal finished. I refinished the stock in red mahogany as I didn't like the old shellac finish. I just got a sling for it along with 30 stripper clips and one of the "recoil" pads. I really bought the pad to increase the LOP and it is a lot better now. I also cut a coil and a half off the firing pin spring to make it easier to cycle the bolt. It made a difference as I took the whole thing apart and cleaned it and then lubed it hoping that would fix it and it didn't. So after I lightened the spring, no more problems racking the bolt.

Doug S
July 18, 2013, 12:39 AM
Double Post

Doug S
July 18, 2013, 12:40 AM
Nice guns everyone.

I sold my Mosin M38 & M44, and would like to find another Mosin Carbine.

Blue Brick
July 19, 2013, 05:36 AM

and the wish list

July 19, 2013, 12:38 PM
Here are a few I picked up a couple weeks ago.

July 19, 2013, 01:13 PM
Again your all raising the bar. Well done.


July 19, 2013, 01:25 PM
My BSA Enfield No 4 Mk 1 made in 1944 all numbers matching.

The blue in the pic is a camera artifact.

While I know this is the rifle forum I just had to add another milsurp of mine.
A .455 Enfield Mk VI made in 1926. It has been shaved to accept .45 ACP and Auto Rim, which I load to Webley pressures using .454 lead slugs

Forest Brother
July 19, 2013, 11:10 PM
Nothing fancy just a 1943 91/30 and a 1953.10 T53
what makes them awesome is their mine and therefore I love them.

I have the bayo for the carbine now but no pics yet

July 20, 2013, 05:09 PM
Here is mine with a couple more added :) (

July 20, 2013, 09:30 PM
My one and M1 Garand. Got it yesterday. It's an CMP HRA Service Grade Special built in November 1954 and serial numbered in the 5.5 million range.

July 20, 2013, 09:41 PM
My one and M1 Garand. Got it yesterday. It's an CMP HRA Service Grade Special built in November 1954 and serial numbered in the 5.5 million range.
Tis indeed a fine specimen. Enjoy it! :)


July 20, 2013, 09:44 PM
Persian Carbine

July 22, 2013, 03:24 PM
My M39's.

July 22, 2013, 06:24 PM
1944 Lithgow No1 MkIII*

French S.A.C.M 1935.A

July 22, 2013, 06:28 PM
1). A 1893 Turk with cutoff box and stright stock. The Turkish 1893 was the first and only Mauser rifle ever to be built with a magazine cuttoff. This example still retains the Cuttoff box but unfortunaly the rest of the cuttoff mechinism has been removed long ago.

2). 1893 Turkish Mauser. This Example was upgraded in 1938 by removing the magazine cuttoff box and having the stock replaced with a more modern pattern piece of furniture.

3). 1903/30 These rifles started out life as 1903 pattern Mauser built in Germany on Contract for Turkey. The 1903 patern is am intermediate action meaning its receiver and bolt are shorter in length in compairison to ones of a K98. when the Turks began upgrading these rifles in 1930 they had to cut a notch in the front ring of the receiver so that the action could accept the new 8MM cartridge. many of these rifles have tear drop shapped bolt handles.

July 22, 2013, 06:33 PM
4). Turkish short rifle. This Model of Turk Mauser should not be refered to a "Carbine" but insted should be called a "Short Rifle" because that is exactly what it is. This example started off life as a German K98az that was converted in 1938 to Turkish standards. the bolt pictured in the Rifle is not correct, the rifle should have a bent bolt.

5). This is a German Gew 98 that was converted to a Turkish standards in 1937.
The Turkish Republic updated their old rifles to a common configuration commonly know, here in the US, as the Model of 1938 While actually starting the conversions in 1933 any rifle converted to this standard is commonly called Model 38.

Gew 98 converted M38s can be easily identified a small hole through the front of the trigger guard that was originally used for a sling swivel. also Gew98 convert rifles tend to have caputure screws along with the standard action screws.

The Turkish Crest has been stamped on very strong, but if you look close you can still see a little of the German crest that was not completly scrubed off.

6). Here is an ATF Turk. This example started out as a Gew 98 that was converted to Turk standards in 1954. These rifles were the last batch of Gew 98 to be converted to Turkish standards.

July 22, 2013, 11:31 PM
1943 Underwood (

1903 A3 (

M1 Garand HRA with a LMR barrel (

And I see that the Gunny still has that crate. :D

July 23, 2013, 12:52 AM
1926 Izhevsk Dragoon Mosin SCW

Last ditch Type 99 Arisaka

July 23, 2013, 01:03 AM
Underwood M1 Carbine with subcontractor receiver (Universal Winding)

Portuguese M1904 39 Mauser Vergueiro Short Rifle in 8 x 57 mm.
It has a nice crest of King Juan Carlos.

July 23, 2013, 01:06 AM
1942 VKT Finn M39 Mosin

July 23, 2013, 12:39 PM
My K98's.

July 23, 2013, 10:15 PM
91/59 Mosin

M91 N.E.W Finn marked

Finn marked 1907 Imperial Tula M91

July 23, 2013, 10:17 PM
Spanish FR8

July 23, 2013, 10:26 PM
Just a few handguns.

1940 Tula Tokarev

Italian M1889 Bodeo Officer Revolver

US 1911 Colt

Colt 1917 Revolver

July 24, 2013, 05:55 AM
my 1911 No1 MK3

Sent from my SCH-R760 using Tapatalk 2

July 24, 2013, 08:39 AM
Awesome guns every one!

July 24, 2013, 04:40 PM
1899 Tula M91 (SCW)

Another Westinghouse (N.E.W.)

Enfield No5 MkI Jungle carbine.

One of my German k98s

White Walker
December 7, 2014, 02:26 PM
Four of my five 1903's ( ( (

December 7, 2014, 02:43 PM
Israeli Mauser

December 7, 2014, 02:50 PM
2014 and the pics STILL don't work,,,,

December 7, 2014, 08:57 PM
WOW White Walker, you don't see to many of those Pig Sticker bayonets.

White Walker
December 7, 2014, 08:59 PM
So I've heard, Voodoo. :)

December 10, 2014, 11:10 AM
Some beautiful examples in here.

My lowly collection so far. (
Mosin Nagant ( by Pyzik (, on Flickr (
1942 Izhevsk Mosin Nagant ( by Pyzik (, on Flickr

December 10, 2014, 11:14 AM

December 10, 2014, 11:47 AM
White Walker: I wonder how many here realize just how rare a Rod bayonet M1903 is? Is it still in .30-03?

Here is 160 years of US military firearms.

Left to right:
1861 Springfield
1884 Springfield
1898 Krag
1903 Springfield
M1917 Winchester
M1 Garand

White Walker
December 10, 2014, 03:20 PM
highpower, that's a Great representative collection of U.S. Martial arms you've got! Way to go!

Amazingly, I've found that the vast majority of shooters and collectors don't know what a Rod Bayonet 1903 Springfield is. Even among those who might own a standard 03, there is a minority who will recognize a RB 1903. Anyway, I've read that there might be around 100 of them left in the world. I don't know. Their scarcity along with the relatively low number of folks who recognize what they are is probably the reason why I was able to pay so little for it, just over $2,000.00, which is still a lot of cash to me.
Yes, it most certainly is in 30-03 caliber. The bore is pristine too, which was a surprise to me.
I'm happy that you recognize it and like it highpower! :)

Here's some photo's I took when the weather was warm of the wife's and my rifles. Gee, I dislike the winter here now... ( ( (

December 10, 2014, 08:52 PM
Two grand is certainly a lot of money, but I think you stole that rifle at that price. I love the '03 Springfields and had a pretty decent collection at one time. I sold them in order to buy a house, but at today's prices, I doubt if I will ever be able build another collection like I had.

You got nice stuff there.

White Walker
December 10, 2014, 09:02 PM
Thanks. You've got some great stuff too! Do you think that you'll be looking for a flint lock musket in the future?
I never would've thought forty years ago that the collectors value of good collectable 1903's would go up twenty times what they were. The prices today are keeping a lot of collectors from buying any. That's too bad. I guess that the guys with the deep pockets have kept the ball rolling on the prices going up. I can remember when $150.00 would buy a very fine and original rifle.

December 10, 2014, 10:24 PM
I am indeed looking for unconverted early US flintlocks. They are very hard to find and somewhat expensive. What I want the most is a Model 1795 musket.

White Walker
December 10, 2014, 11:31 PM
Those are my favorites. I've been lucky enough to own two in my life. both bought when they were around $750.00 and $900.00.
Sometimes you can still find a sleeper. I'd even take a U.S. surcharged French 1766. Heck, someday I might sell my 03's and put the money into Revolutionary War muskets.
Hey, don't forget about the 1842 smoothbore musket. You'll have to have one of them as well!

December 11, 2014, 09:21 AM
White Walker

I was also amazed at seeing your Model 1903 Rod Bayonet Rifle; that's definitely one rare bird! I remember reading somewhere that President Teddy Roosevelt strongly disapproved of the rod bayonet and that's why it was changed to the more conventional bayonet design.

White Walker
December 11, 2014, 02:17 PM

That's what I've heard too. They weren't produced longer than 15 months before production stopped. There were about 67,000 made at Springfield Armory and possibly only Serial Number 1 completed at Rock Island which possibly hadn't fully assembled any more pending a decision about altering the bayonet design. What happened to all of the many thousands of parts at Rock Island waiting to be put together isn't known to me. The bolt on my RB 1903 was made at Rock Island and still has its original polish and traces of Niter Blue on the handle. It came with another rifle I'd bought and when I found the RB in an auction that had a much later bolt, I went ahead and got the Rod Bayonet 03.

December 11, 2014, 06:31 PM
Hangfire, that's a nice mosin in post#102....but I'm not sure it is the most accurate milsurp ever made. My Ross Mklll may have been a failure as a military rifle, but it will shoot M.O.A. out to four hundred yards....

December 11, 2014, 06:44 PM
Recently aquired.....Persian Mauser/svt-40/mas 49-56

White Walker
December 11, 2014, 06:48 PM
Nice rifles!

Sarge 13
December 11, 2014, 08:25 PM
Well I don't know how I managed to miss jumping in on this a long time ago, but will do so now.
I've collected military weapons for 60 yrs, started when I bought a K98k to hunt deer with from the unkle who brought it back - I still have that rifle.
I'll start with my "non military" gunz and go on from there over several posts.
Civil war and cowboy gunz are first. The civil War are all reproductions. The cowboy gunz are all 38/40 cal.

December 11, 2014, 08:28 PM
Thanks white walker, one day will own a 1903...yours look to be in great condition:cool:

Sarge 13
December 11, 2014, 08:30 PM
Then my VN bring backs.
Well I can't add the photo of my VN bring backs since I have posted them in another thread - beats the hell out of my why this is so, but ---
The photo is in - Vietnam Bring Back Chicom Type 53

Sarge 13
December 11, 2014, 08:41 PM
Here are my other VN period weapons.
The FN/FAL (or L1A!) is select fire, the next 2 are M14s then a semi M1A, an AR 15 and a CAR 15.

Sarge 13
December 11, 2014, 08:44 PM
My WW 1 US. Springfield 03 & 03A3 and a 1917 Winchester.

Sarge 13
December 11, 2014, 08:51 PM
M1 Carbines - 2 Inland M1A1s, 2 Winchesters (early & late ser nr) and a NPM & M1 Garands - mostly Springfield, but also a Beretta, IHC and a . Still looking for a Winchester.
The 45 is a 1911 - 1913 Navy.

Sarge 13
December 11, 2014, 08:57 PM
My WW 2 ruskie stuff. The top M44 is actually a chicom typ 53.
This is a an old photo and I have added several rifles to this pile to include a couple more SVTs and 91/30s and an M38.
Well it has done it to me again!!! This photos is in - SVT40 debate.
The hell with it, I'm done for now. More later.

December 11, 2014, 09:00 PM
Things I play with.

December 12, 2014, 02:09 AM
thought I would add a couple more;

1893 Spanish Mannlicher (bubba) in 7x57
1909 Argentine Cavalry Carbine in 7.65x53
1908 Brazilian Cavalry Carbine in 7.65x53
Yugoslavian M24/47 short rifle in 8x57


December 12, 2014, 08:23 AM
@sarge 13:
nice collection, but interested if you say your fal or l1a1 is select fire: normally the british l1a1 is semi-auto only.

During the falkland conflict many britisch soldiers picked up argentine fal's in select fire, but they quickly returned to their l1a1 because semi auto and careful aiming was considered bether than ammo wasting in full-auto.

just curious. (mine is a 1959 Lee-Enfield build with original SUIT sight)

December 12, 2014, 11:18 AM
White Walker, is that RB Springfield all original? You mentioned that it had a R. I. bolt in the gun a Springfield? Do you have the original bolt. I ask, because the gun, all original, is worth five figures...well into five figures.

I live 30 miles away from the Rock Island Auction Co, and the Island itself. A RB Springfield sold at auction a while back for five figures and it was a parts gun! I have been to the Museum at the arsenal and stuck my nose within twelve inches of serial #1, which was never altered, unlike S.A. #1. It was proofed, and taken directly to the Museum. Rock Island continued to make RB guns until told to stop and the modifications to turn them into a Knife bayonet gun commenced. While the modifications were in progress The change to the spitzer bullet was made and the barrels were set back and rechambered to 30-06.

The rarest 1903 in existence is a gun modified to the 1906 specs, that has a barrel still chambered in 30-03. No one knows how many exist but it is a mere handful. The army was very efficient at recalling and changing the guns. Just like they were with the gas trap Garands.

You wouldn't happen to have one of those, would you?

You are right that RB Springfields are about

December 12, 2014, 11:19 AM
oops, forgot to delete the last line

White Walker
December 12, 2014, 03:54 PM
Tark, the rifles receiver is stamped Springfield Armory. It came with a Springfield C7 marked straight handled bolt. Since I already had an original RB Rock Island polished bolt, I went ahead and put it on the RB rifle. Not being able to locate an original Springfield RB bolt with original polish, I'm pretty happy to have the Rock Island bolt for the rifle. Its extractor and handle are nitered and the extractor ring is still originally polished. When I got the rifle, it was missing a correct solid RB rear band (it had a split band). I mounted a correct RB stacking swivel, "early" seriffed safety, all thread cut off screw, the follower and spring were from an 03A3 so I replaced those. It had a later butt plate with the larger trap so I put on a correct butt plate with the small trap and assembly numbers, replaced the late trigger guard with an original rod bayonet one, put on a correct early trigger and sear, added the missing stock bushing for the rear guard screw (the original unissued stock had never yet been fitted with one), put a correct RB rear sight leaf with 25 yd. increments on, put a correctly knurled RB cocking piece on, added an early and correct type 1 oiler with correct RB brush and thong, and "correctly" mounted the front sight on the barrel. The barrel was off of an original unaltered 30-03 chambered rifles with the 05 type rear sight.
My guess is that long, long ago somebody cannibalized an early and unaltered 03 in 30-03 to use the barrel. The rifle is all correct now for a RB rifle.
I've read that the figure of 100 or so Rod Bayonet rifles in existence today includes about 50 or so "unaltered" rifles and about 50 or so rifles built up from original and once much more common Rod Bayonet parts. Mine is one of those.
Yes, I too have seen rebuilt rifles with several incorrect parts sell for between $7,500.00 and $13,000.00. Some of these had shorter 30-06 barrels on them.
I think my rifle is one of the better ones in existence. Although it isn't currently valued in the $35,000.00 to $60,000.00 range of an unaltered Rod Bayonet rifle, it's value is still increasing all the while and I'm fortunate indeed to not have to come up with all of the correct parts today from scratch. Such a search for correct parts today would take many years to compile and would be extremely expensive. For $2,300.00, I got into this one pretty cheap. I recently saw a purported RB front band sell on eBay. However it appears to be made up with welding and is incorrectly contoured and is buggered up where the screw fits at the base. It was going for $100.00 at the time but I don't know what the final bid on it was.
As far as anybody knows for sure, Rock Island No. 1 Rod Bayonet rifle is the only such R.I. Rifle to be all original. Although Rock Island continued to produce parts, it's thought that the later starting time for Rock Island Arsenal to be up and ready for full production resulted in possibly just the one rifle being fully assembled before the decision was made to halt production in January of 1905 pending a decision on the bayonet problem. Then of course, the decision to change from 30-03 to 30-06 held things up some more. Rock Island Arsenal had their racks full of almost assembled rifles waiting for the final word on how they were going to be finished.
Oh, the serial number is in the 6,000 range.

White Walker
December 12, 2014, 04:37 PM
Just an interesting note, our son and daughter not having the slightest interest in any of our firearms, I'd asked my youngest niece's husband, who is a Kansas City police officer, if he'd be interested in receiving our guns some day as a gift when we can't get around so well any more. He never even responded. I can't imagine any man not being interested in them, but such is the case. Amazing...

Sarge 13
December 12, 2014, 07:49 PM
@sarge 13:
nice collection, but interested if you say your fal or l1a1 is select fire: normally the british l1a1 is semi-auto only.
During the falkland conflict many britisch soldiers picked up argentine fal's in select fire, but they quickly returned to their l1a1 because semi auto and careful aiming was considered bether than ammo wasting in full-auto.
just curious. (mine is a 1959 Lee-Enfield build with original SUIT sight)

Actually my FN/FAL is an Isreali import. Yes it is select fire.
I really don't understand anyone having problems with accuracy or controllability with this rifle on full auto!
I can put a 3 or 4 rd burst in the chest of a sillouete at 100-150 yds every time all day long. That is why I enjoy shooting it so much - it is Very accurate and Very controllable compared to most other FAs I've shot.
I currently own 9 or 10 different FAs and the FN/FAL is one of the most fun to shoot!

Sarge 13
December 12, 2014, 07:58 PM
Here are some of my WW 2 German gunz.

December 12, 2014, 08:32 PM
White Walker, the RIA #1 is indeed the only unaltered RB 1903. There is a small placard next to the gun at the Museum telling the story of S.A. #1. It was modified to the 1905 specs and sent overseas to fight the war. A lieutenant in an infantry company noticed it and took it away from the soldier it was issued to and it is on display at S.A. National Historic Site, but I suspect you know that already. You seem to be very knowledgeable about 1903s.

Have you ever been to the R.I.A. Museum? It is one of the finest in the country, and actually has a better display of U.S Martial arms than the S.A. Museum. There is Model Shop Garand serial number 2 along with a second Gas trap Garand. There is the only 1892 Krag Carbine in existence. There is a 1901 prototype Springfield. Looks like a 1903 but has a 29 inch bbl. There are six guns on display that were picked up on the battlefield....some place called Little Bighorn. There is every prototype gun leading up to the development of the M-1. A John Garand primer actuated gun is there. Four Pedersons in 276 cal. Pederson devices? They have several. I could go on for an hour. The interesting thing about the Museum is that they have a gun in the basement, in storage, for every one on display. Space constrictions.

They have about 500 guns on display. For anyone passing through on I-80, it is worth the one hour side trip. But once you get there, you will stay a lot longer than that.

White Walker
December 14, 2014, 02:28 PM
Tark, no, I've never been to the Rock Island Museum. I'd like to go someday soon though. I'll talk to my wife about that so that she can keep it in mind when next she plans a trip for us. Thanks for the Great information!
I've gathered my information and knowledge from experienced collectors and personal observations of 1903 Springfield's since I've been interested in them for almost a half century. However, I think that the advent of the internet has greatly enabled folks to become knowledgeable collectors of the rifle. Whenever somebody has an observation to share, their information can now be readily seen and shared with everyone thanks to excellent forums such as this!

Here is a 1920 National Match 03 Springfield that was made for the Camp Perry match that fiscal year. Until 1921 only military personel and no civilian shooters were allowed to purchase these National Match rifles. The rifle's condition would indicate that after this rifle was purchased at Camp Parry in 1920 by someone who was in the military, it was infrequently used or handled. Maybe the owner died. Maybe he just never shot in competition again. He was almost certainly a veteran of the 1st World War. Wherever the rifle was kept for the past 95 years, it has survived rather well. In any event, there were 3000 of the 1920 National Match 1903's made. Those rifles that weren't sold to military personnel at the 1920 Camp Perry Matches were later disassembled and those components that could be were used again for assembling the next years National Match rifles of 1921. I would venture a guess that there aren't too many of the 1920 National Match 03"s still around in any condition.
The following year, in 1921, the National Match rifles were the very first that were made available to non military shooters (to open a larger market and demand for them) and with all of the hype, the misconception resulted over time in believing that the 1921 rifles were the first National Match 1903's to be designed as N.M. rifles from the ground up when actually National Match 1903's had been assembled exclusively as National Match rifles for over ten years before. The idea that all N.M. 1903's before 1921 were just modified and upgraded issue rifles is incorrect.
Anyway, here's mine... I don't know how well any of my rifles shoot because I've never fired any of them. They all have pristine bores though for all of the good it does me. My eyesight isn't real sharp anymore and so I just keep them clean and in a gun cabinet. ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (

December 14, 2014, 03:15 PM
The Rock Island Museum sounds like it just became #1 on my list of places to visit before I die.

Here's one I haven't seen on this thread yet. 1916 Berthier carbine. I had a little fun walking into a gun store in Austin and asking for 'M16 clips' :D

Had an original Steyr M95 sling on it for some reason which promptly broke when my dad slung it. Going to have to have it repaired one of these days and stick it on my M95. (

December 14, 2014, 07:26 PM
it's been a while since I posted these boards, here's the two more recent babies of the collection.

December 14, 2014, 10:20 PM
Some of you guys really make a feller feel inadequate.....

December 14, 2014, 11:03 PM
Anyone who is in my part of the world and wants to visit the R.I.A. Museum, let me know on the forum beforehand. I'll Meet you at your motel and give you the grand tour. The Museum is closed Monday and Tuesday, if I remember right . It is open from 1PM to five.

December 14, 2014, 11:19 PM
Here's my Enfield that, I must say, makes an excellent wall hanger!

December 14, 2014, 11:27 PM
White Walker, you have some incredible 1903s! I am insanely jealous! Well, darn close, anyway. My best Milsurp is a broomhandle mauser, 7.63, with matching wood holster.....that was never fired after leaving the factory. It is still gooped with cosmoline. Its collector condition can be described as 99+% and of course it will never be fired. As near as can be determined it was made in the early thirties. (Damn Frenchmen....It's a long story, I won't even get started)

I forgot to mention General Buford's Calvary Saber on display at the Museum, you remember him....He of Gettysburg fame.... There is also a National Cemetery On the Island, along with a Confederate Cemetery. The Island was a Prison Camp during the Civil War. Not a very hospitable one, I am afraid....There are almost a thousand souls buried there. There is also a field containing about forty military vehicles, from tanks to cannons. There is a M4A6 Sherman tank that was knocked out of action during the battle of the bulge, and an Atomic cannon.

I'm sorry... I am off topic.... but kind of not.... If milsurps interest one, this museum is one of the finest in the country.

I get the tinglies and goose bumps

December 14, 2014, 11:29 PM
Forgot to delete that last line again! I was about to say I get goose bumps and feel humbled, every time I go to the Island.

It is Hallowed ground.

December 15, 2014, 11:57 AM
1898 Krag I picked up a few months ago,

1884 Trapdoor

1861 Springfield, issued to Horatio Brown A co., 10th Connecticut Volunteers.

White Walker
December 15, 2014, 01:29 PM
Hey thanks tark! Glad that you like them! :)

White Walker
December 15, 2014, 01:32 PM
highpower, what's the back ground story of your 1861 Springfield?

December 15, 2014, 01:53 PM
Figured it out.

December 15, 2014, 02:06 PM
I bought it from a gentleman in Connecticut that had picked it up from the family of Horatio Brown. Seems that no one in the family wanted it anymore, so it came up for sale.

My research on Brown shows that he enlisted on August 6, 1862 in the 10th Conn. Vol into Co A and was mustered out on June 5, 1865. At this point it is hard to say for sure that it is the very rifle he carried throughout the war, or if it is one he kept as a souvenir.

The 10th was in several major battles from Feb. 1862 right up until the end at Appomattox Courthouse in April of 1865

White Walker
December 15, 2014, 02:14 PM
Pretty Neat!

December 15, 2014, 02:27 PM
Mine... (

December 15, 2014, 04:31 PM
M24 Sniper from 'C' Co 1/4 Cav

1914 Springfield M1911

1913 DWM Imperial German Luger.

December 15, 2014, 09:09 PM

December 15, 2014, 09:26 PM
Surprisingly, unless I missed it, I didn't see one Johnson. That doesn't sound right. Johnson rifle. :rolleyes:

White Walker
December 16, 2014, 04:30 PM
Wow! You guys all have Fantastic stuff!

December 16, 2014, 04:56 PM
I gotta stop visiting this Thread! I get heart palpitations and the dry mouth just looking at the pictures.

Im running out of Biotene.....

Gun Master
December 16, 2014, 06:27 PM
Here are some of my WW 2 German gunz.
Wow ! How many K-43 (G-43) 's ?

White Walker
December 16, 2014, 07:59 PM
This is part of the collection of one of my best friends who is selling everything. He bought the Krags and several of the 1903's from me 35 years ago so maybe I'll buy them back now. A lot of good memories in his gun room. Most of the old gang is dead now and so he hasn't anyone to share them with anymore since I moved to another state. ( (

Sarge 13
December 16, 2014, 08:12 PM
Wow ! How many K-43 (G-43) 's ?
Not sure, I think I currently have 17 or 18. Got my first one in about 1958.
My hunting rifle - since 1958 - is a G 43, I have used a mismatched one for many years.
Guess I kinda like them.

Gun Master
December 16, 2014, 08:32 PM
Please tell us "The Rescue Story" for the WWI 1911.

Nice DWM, M-1, etc. too.

Gun Master
December 16, 2014, 08:39 PM
M24 Sniper from 'C' Co 1/4 Cav

1914 Springfield M1911

1913 DWM Imperial German Luger.
Please see posting # 235.


December 17, 2014, 01:24 AM
Originally Posted by birdshooter
Please tell us "The Rescue Story" for the WWI 1911.

In 1961 the fellow I got it from was fishing in Big Bear Lake in the PRC and hooked it with his fishing line. At first he thought he had a catfish because it was such a dead weight.

It had a loaded magazine in it and one in the chamber. He replaced the springs, barrel, safety and grips so he could shoot it. In side there is almost no rust and it shoots like any other 1911. I picked it up a couple of years ago because I liked the story behind it. Also I liked it due to the fact that 1911's made at the US arsenal at Springfield are rather rare.

December 17, 2014, 02:03 AM
Turk mauser with a pristine bore, good headspace, and a beech stock. 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Picked it up today.

White Walker
December 17, 2014, 02:52 AM
Highpower, that's Very interesting! Thanks for sharing that!

White Walker
December 17, 2014, 03:28 PM
The blonde stocked 03 as well as the all correct and unaltered 1903 Mark I are no longer owned by me, but I wanted to show them anyway... ( ( ( ( (

White Walker
December 17, 2014, 03:39 PM
Both the 1918 Rock Island and the 1918 Springfield have barrel dates of 7-18. Both rifles are in pristine unaltered condition showing very little use. ( ( ( ( ( ( (

White Walker
December 17, 2014, 03:47 PM
Trapdoor Springfield Forager 20 gauge shotgun
Serial Number 9... ( ( ( ( ( (

December 17, 2014, 08:14 PM
Whit Walker, you have a wonderful collection. I'm glad you choose to share it with us.


Gun Master
December 17, 2014, 09:08 PM
Thanks guys, but some of the pictures are too wide for my screen.

Some really nice collections.

White Walker
December 17, 2014, 09:27 PM
Whit Walker, you have a wonderful collection. I'm glad you choose to share it with us.

I'm happy that you like the pictures Old Brown Dog! Nearly everything I've owned is gone now to other collectors except for five 1903's that I wanted to keep. I've just one more rifle that I want to buy to even things out in the rifle cabinet and then, honest to gosh this time, I'm going to stop buying 1903's... Really! I mean it this time! Yep... no more for this kid... yessireeee... I'm completely cured of Springfielditis... You can ask my wife!

December 18, 2014, 02:09 PM
My favorite. This rifle is as finely made (maybe more so) than most of tofay's commercial rifles.
Wood is pretty nice, too.

White Walker
December 18, 2014, 04:03 PM
I've always thought that those rifles were the finest. And that stock... Wow!

December 18, 2014, 11:24 PM
Turk mauser with a pristine bore, good headspace, and a beech stock. 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Picked it up today.

I have a 1945 K. Kale Mauser, it is a shooter for sure, rifle is in great shape and bore is pristine

December 19, 2014, 12:48 AM
1951 and 1942 Swiss K31's

Surplus Sig P6's

December 19, 2014, 07:38 PM
White Walker

Thanks for sharing the photos of your friend's gun collection. Now that's my idea of one fantastic looking gun room!

I also enjoyed the photos of your M1903 Springfields; one of my favorite military issue bolt action rifles, along with the M1898 Krag-Jorgensen.

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