Been looking for 7mm-08 Brass for almost half a year...


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Macchina
February 18, 2013, 09:57 PM
I've been around town and all the usual suspects online, seems the $55/50 Nosler stuff is all that's available but for that price I might as well reload .50 BMG! I'd be happy with Remington, happier with Winchester. Anyone know where to get some?

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armarsh
February 18, 2013, 10:07 PM
You could neck down some 308 to get you by.

oneounceload
February 18, 2013, 10:10 PM
Buy some factory and then you'll have once-fired brass

Macchina
February 18, 2013, 10:10 PM
I hear .308 is too short when necked down to any of it's child cartridges. Any input on this?

blarby
February 18, 2013, 10:35 PM
Not true at all.

I make plenty of 7-08 for my wifes rifle using .308- works fine.

I wont be buying any more 7.08 brass...........

klausman
February 19, 2013, 04:28 AM
If you neck .308 brass down, be careful about thickened brass in the neck area. You may need to ream or turn the necks to allow for proper expansion and bullet release on firing. Watch for signs of pressure.

GooseGestapo
February 19, 2013, 08:42 AM
Try www.grafs.com
Cheaper than driving and burning gas.
I've made 7mm08 and .260rem from .308 and/or .243. Not a problem.

The only time I've had problems with neck thickness was with some factory PMC. It was so thick, it was "tight" with factory ammo, and after reloading, wouldn't chamber with exact same bullets as factory ammo (Hornady 139gr PtSpt).
I had to neck-turn those to proper spec's, but they're now my most accurate cases....

You'll not likely find new-unprimed 7mm08 anywhere but reloading distributers...
Grafs (best shipping policies/prices)
MidwayUSA (best web-site, but you pay for it with $$$ shipping).
MidsouthShootersSupply, sometimes better availability and good people
Wideners Shooters Supply; also good people

Macchina
February 19, 2013, 09:00 AM
You'll not likely find new-unprimed 7mm08 anywhere but reloading distributers...
Grafs (best shipping policies/prices)
MidwayUSA (best web-site, but you pay for it with $$$ shipping).
MidsouthShootersSupply, sometimes better availability and good people
Wideners Shooters Supply; also good people
I checked all these places before posting, and only Grafs had some Privi brass for $44. I never heard of them (their out of Serbia) so I passed them by. Looks like that price is for 100 pieces and includes shipping! Anyone ever use Privi brass before? Is it any good?

Mobuck
February 19, 2013, 12:50 PM
I bought 300-400 last fall on GB for a decent price. Need to expand your search area?

Kachok
February 19, 2013, 01:38 PM
For my 7mm-08 I buy once fired brass at the range for $15 per 100, might want to try that. I got tons of brass for cheap.

tomrkba
February 19, 2013, 01:40 PM
You will need to buy online.

Get on Midway, Brownells, etc., make an account, and place the items you want on your wishlist. They will email you when it comes in, so make sure you have your email sent to your phone and check it twice daily. Midway says it'll have brass in by 2 March 2013, so you should be able to get something soon. I'd set a calendar event for that morning.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601199429/remington-reloading-brass-7mm-08-remington

Also check web sites such as vaguntrader.com or equivalent for your state. Subscribe to the ammo forum and watch for brass. You'll just have to continually check. Save up your money while you wait. I would expect you can score 500 cases within 30 days if you really try.

ArchAngelCD
February 19, 2013, 01:48 PM
You will need to buy online.

Get on Midway, Brownells, etc., make an account, and place the items you want on your wishlist. They will email you when it comes in, so make sure you have your email sent to your phone and check it twice daily. Midway says it'll have brass in by 2 March 2013, so you should be able to get something soon. I'd set a calendar event for that morning.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601199429/remington-reloading-brass-7mm-08-remington

Also check web sites such as vaguntrader.com or equivalent for your state. Subscribe to the ammo forum and watch for brass. You'll just have to continually check. Save up your money while you wait. I would expect you can score 500 cases within 30 days if you really try.
No brass available at that link, all on backorder...

I suggest you take the advice of necking down .308 Win brass, it's much cheaper and there is "usually" plenty of once fired 308 brass available... If you have some on hand you're set...

ngnrd
February 19, 2013, 01:58 PM
No brass available at that link, all on backorder...

That's why there was a suggestion to put it on a "Wish List". Although I'd probably use the "Notify Me" feature instead.

But, truthfully, I just spent 5 minutes using the Google machine to search the interwebz and found 4 sources that show having 7mm-08 brass in stock, either new or once-fired. So... there's that.

GT1
February 19, 2013, 03:18 PM
Yep, the 'handloader's manual of cartridge conversions' lists the 308 as the parent cartridge to form 7mm-08. So brass is plentiful, you were just overlooking it.:)

DanTheFarmer
February 19, 2013, 04:41 PM
Privi brass usually gets favorable comments from what I've seen on various forums, this one included.

I don't have first hand experience and I don't remember specific comments about 7mm-08brass but I from what I've read I would not hesitate to give it a try.

Good Luck.

Dan

kerreckt
February 19, 2013, 05:02 PM
PPU brass is good stuff. I have never used in your caliber but in may others with good results. PPU made military ammo for the former Yugoslavia and does now for Serbia. They also make 5.56X45 under contract for NATO and the USA. The brass I have used tends to be a bit thicker than domestic stuff. I notice it when I am resizing.

GLOOB
February 19, 2013, 07:14 PM
I hear .308 is too short when necked down to any of it's child cartridges. Any input on this?
While it's true most of my necked down 308 cases come out a bit shorter than my trim-to length, this fact hasn't caused me a bit of grief. They seat, chamber, and shoot just fine. Forming them isn't appreciably harder than sizing a regular case. They reach trim-to length after maybe 2 firings, and my trim-to length is a bit arbitrary, anyway. It's however long LEE decided to make my trimmer pilot, lol.

Now, the thicker necks cause their own issue. I found my necked down FC cases outrageously difficult to expand, until I switched to a Lyman M die.

I've also necked up 243 cases, and I haven't annealed any of these cases before or after forming them. I'm on 4-5 reloadings, and I haven't had a single cracked neck, yet.

Kachok
February 19, 2013, 07:38 PM
PPU despite being so darn cheap is superb brass, I have used the same batch of 100 in my 6.5x55 for almost four years and it still performs great. Every bit as good as the Norma stuff I paid stupid money for. Use it in my 308 too, you can feel the difference resizing it is some heavy duty stuff.

AR15barrels
February 19, 2013, 07:52 PM
I've been around town and all the usual suspects online, seems the $55/50 Nosler stuff is all that's available but for that price I might as well reload .50 BMG! I'd be happy with Remington, happier with Winchester. Anyone know where to get some?

How much do you need?
I'm sitting on a bunch of new Remington and Winchester 7-08 brass that I usually reform to 260 every time I rebarrel the gun.
I might be able to let some go as long as I got enough money out of it to replace it in the future at slightly higher prices when it becomes available again.

Reloadron
February 19, 2013, 08:02 PM
We just had a thread about necking down .308 to 7mm-08 which can be found here. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=699307) I never had a problem one doing it. Works just fine.

Midsouth is showing in stock with a low stock as of now. (https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0011510187) Granted, not the inexpensive stuff.

Ron

cal30_sniper
February 20, 2013, 02:35 AM
Prvi brass is awesome. I use it for reloading in 6.5x55, and 7x57, as well as fireforming for my 7x57AI. I'd rank it right up there in quality with the Lapua and Norma brass that I have. It is very easy to work with, and appears to be very high quality. You really notice how good it is in areas like the primer pocket.

I've fireformed nearly a hundred cases of factory loaded Prvi through my 7x57AI. I haven't had a single split neck or head separation yet. That's really good results compared to what I've read of other people's experience working with domestic made brass/ammunition.

GooseGestapo
February 20, 2013, 07:09 AM
ppu (PrviPartisan) is good brass.
All but a few pieces of my .260 brass is PPU .243 that I necked up to .260.
I was going to neck turn them, I did three and quit as they were pretty darn good as they were...
The bullets are "decent". Most are 1-2moa "hunting" bullets. Same as factory ammo at Academy Sports under the "Monarch" brand.
I have however, gotten sub-moa from my Rem. Mod-7 with the PPU 6.5 123gr BtHp "Match" bullet.

Skyshot
February 20, 2013, 07:20 AM
Back years ago before the 7-08 became popular all I had was .308 brass that had to be necked down. Never had a problem with it.

fguffey
February 20, 2013, 09:33 AM
When necking a case neck down it gets longer, when necking a case neck up it gets shorter. And now? I am told the neck also gets thicker and or thinner? Who measures"? I do.

F. Guffey

GLOOB
February 20, 2013, 01:35 PM
When necking a case neck down it gets longer, when necking a case neck up it gets shorter.
No one said that cases shrink when you neck them down. 149 of my 150 necked down cases did not meet trim-to length. 40 for 40 of my necked up 243 cases were longer than my trim-to length. But...

308: 2.015"
7mm-08: 2.035"
243: 2.045"

308 brass starts out shorter than 7mm-08. I suppose it might be because the cases are all made from the same blank material at the factory. But still, once formed to 308, it doesn't seem like the case lengthens all the way back to 7mm-08 length when necked down.. Not even close.

And now? I am told the neck also gets thicker and or thinner? Who measures"? I do.
Most of my necked down 308 is appreciably thicker in the neck than my 7mm-08 brass. (All except for one lone BHA match headstamp). I dunno if it started that way or if that was from forming. All of my necked up 243 brass is appreciably thinner. I didn't know that was a coincidence. I suppose I should measure before and after, next time, just to know for sure. But I thought it was common knowledge that when necking down, the neck gets thicker?

splattergun
February 20, 2013, 07:51 PM
Prvi is good brass.

Ehtereon11B
February 21, 2013, 02:39 AM
How does one neck down a .308 case? I am relatively new to reloading. I have a single stage press with FL sizing dies for 7mm-08. 7mm-08 brass is difficult to find, especially now at stores like Bass Pro and other big box stores. But most have .308.

Reloadron
February 21, 2013, 04:17 AM
How does one neck down a .308 case? I am relatively new to reloading. I have a single stage press with FL sizing dies for 7mm-08. 7mm-08 brass is difficult to find, especially now at stores like Bass Pro and other big box stores. But most have .308.
Several post back I provided a link to a recent forum discussion on the subject. You just run the .308 Winchester brass through the 7mm-08 full length sizing die. Set the die up as you normally would. The cases will come out slightly shorter than the 7mm-08 specification but in my case that was never a problem. I never had a need to neck ream either when finished. Make sure you lube the cases and I also lubed the case necks IDs. I happen to have used new factory Remington brass when I did it.

Ron

GT1
February 21, 2013, 04:18 AM
How does one neck down a .308 case? I am relatively new to reloading. I have a single stage press with FL sizing dies for 7mm-08.

I am not into case forming yet but you have what you need already. You run the 308 brass through your 7mm-08 sizing die. You may need to anneal first, and if the necks end up being thick then you either ream them out from the inside or turn them down from the outside.

You might need more lube on the inside of the case in the area that will be formed compared to regular brass resizing.

At least that is what I gather from my manual of cartridge conversions for this particular conversion.

Bull Nutria
February 21, 2013, 08:01 AM
place an add in the classifieds of this forum for 7mm08 brass "wanted to buy" WTB. 7mm08 is more plentiful than you may think. around here (LA) I never have purchased any 7mm08brass or ammo to get brass. when I first started reloading for 7mm08 I formed about 50-- 308s but never used them cuz I was able to find adequate supply of once fired 7mm08 at local public ranges on the ground!!

you can also trade with guys on this forum, when scrounging save all the brass, sort it then you have trading material . will save you money and help fellow reloaders out. if you find 6.8, or other fad calibers it is more valuable and much sought after and really good trading material. I have traded for calibers I needed and also bought and sold brass.

never had a problem with forum members!

Bull

blarby
February 21, 2013, 08:43 PM
How to :

Lube .308 brass well.

FL size in 7mm-08 die.

Trim to length.

Voila.

The ones that don't split after the first firing will likely last as long as an purpose made 7mm-08 brass.

The ones that do ? Nothing is perfect. Into the recycle bin you go..... You at least got one shot out of it.



If you were very well equipped, I assume you could soften and anneal and all that good jazz, buts it not really necessary for a .62 mm on average reduction.

Your brass will have stout shoulders :D

suzukisam
February 22, 2013, 10:45 AM
I don't know what part of the country you are in but around here in Kansas city. we have some local "craigslist" type websites for guns only. I have access to about anything you want within reason. if you want to pm I can give you a couple sites to check. but finding oncefired 7mm-08 brass is no problem around here usually. I think I have like 20 rounds i accidentally picked up from the range. but if you just post an ad for once fired and leave it up every few weeks someone will contact you with some.. I did that for 243 and I now have a lifetime supply.. I actually stopped taking it and started giving it to my bro for making 260. I understand 243 is much more readily available.. but the concept still applies

Kachok
February 22, 2013, 10:56 AM
If you want me to I can check the local range, I usually find once fired brass there, it is mixed head stamp but really cheap. I use it all the time in most of my rifles.

docsleepy
February 22, 2013, 03:15 PM
I actually prefer to use .308 brass to make 7 mm 08. If you do it that way, you might get a thicker neck, which means that it will fit better in the typical oversized hunting throat, and you will have higher accuracy. That's the whole reason that benchrest shooters arrange for only .001 clearance. Tested by seeing if you can chamber the round with your fingers and if it goes, you're fine. I do it this way on purpose.

Macchina
February 22, 2013, 03:40 PM
Well a good guy on here offered to sell me 100 pieces of new Winchester brass at the price it was when it was in stock last year. It's cool when the solution comes to you :)

Macchina
February 22, 2013, 03:42 PM
I don't know what part of the country you are in but around here in Kansas city. we have some local "craigslist" type websites for guns only. I have access to about anything you want within reason. if you want to pm I can give you a couple sites to check. but finding oncefired 7mm-08 brass is no problem around here usually. I think I have like 20 rounds i accidentally picked up from the range. but if you just post an ad for once fired and leave it up every few weeks someone will contact you with some.. I did that for 243 and I now have a lifetime supply.. I actually stopped taking it and started giving it to my bro for making 260. I understand 243 is much more readily available.. but the concept still applies
Thanks for the offer. I shoot my 7mm-08 so little (target practice and hunting only) that I tend to use new brass in it only. This will be my second set of brass for this rifle and the first one lasted me about 5 years (about 4 loadings each before the primer pockets got loose on some).

suzukisam
February 23, 2013, 08:34 AM
I totally understand. I can't believe that cartridge hasn't gotten to be even more popular than it has. such a great round! I would encourage you to pick up whatever you can and even if you don't use it for a long time you'll have 500 range brass as a back up in case prices keep going through the roof. in 5 years we're all going to have to be part of the ruling class just to afford this stuff!

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