Chicago Police Chief: 2nd Amendment Is A Danger To Public Safety


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vtail
February 19, 2013, 12:22 AM
Can you believe this guy????



http://www.redstate.com/dloesch/2013/02/17/chicago-police-chief-second-amendment-is-a-danger-to-public-safety/


After totally dismissing the citizenís right to redress grievances, McCarthy trained his constitutional wisdom on the 2nd Amendment. Despite recent court decisions to the contrary, McCarthy opined that the 2ndAmendment limits citizens to owning smooth-bore muskets. McCarthy went on to say that he believes that the 2nd Amendment supports mandatory liability insurance for firearm owners and the mandatory application of GPS tracking devices to civilian owned firearms.

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Solo
February 19, 2013, 12:32 AM
The real threat to public safety comes from police chiefs who do not uphold the Constitution.

wow6599
February 19, 2013, 12:40 AM
McCarthy’s a puppet. Nothing more, nothing less.

jamesbeat
February 19, 2013, 12:43 AM
+1

What a (low road word).

r1derbike
February 19, 2013, 12:53 AM
I know Morse. 30 wpm. Communicating with it is not dead, no matter the detractors.

buckeye8
February 19, 2013, 01:02 AM
It may be the Government teacher in me, but the fact that a person could even become a public figure in America with such a poor understanding of our system of government nearly makes my head explode.

labhound
February 19, 2013, 01:14 AM
Seeing what a whiz bang job the Chicago police are doing trying to control the gang violence I'd say that the Chief and his troops are the biggest threat to public safety!

r1derbike
February 19, 2013, 01:45 AM
Plenty of Charlatans to go around in high-crime metro areas. It's a shame they can' t be removed from office, but the green is too much of an incentive to leave.

The Termite
February 19, 2013, 03:32 AM
Despite recent court decisions to the contrary, McCarthy opined that the 2ndAmendment limits citizens to owning smooth-bore muskets.
Using his rational, only "white" male property owners can vote, and modern electronic communication is not included under the First Amendment.

Reckon how that would fly..........:uhoh:

MachIVshooter
February 19, 2013, 03:35 AM
If you ask me, his words border on treason, given his position.

Bobson
February 19, 2013, 03:40 AM
It may be the Government teacher in me, but the fact that a person could even become a public figure in America with such a poor understanding of our system of government nearly makes my head explode.
Police Chief is very possibly the most politically-influenced position in the entire [local] public safety sector. I'm not at all surprised by Chief McCarthy's opinion. I know very little about Chicago, but I'd bet a large sum that the Mayor has strikingly similar views.

MachIVshooter
February 19, 2013, 04:20 AM
^^^^^^

This. Dissenting police chiefs have a class; RETIRED.

somerandomguy
February 19, 2013, 05:27 AM
Typical Chicago guys. "Oh I'm doing a terrible job at my job and so I'ma blame it on a tool instead of the gangbangers blowing each other away! BAN GUNS SO I CAN DO MY JOB BETTER!"

beatledog7
February 19, 2013, 08:50 AM
Chief of Police is effectively a political appointment, and once in that position the incumbent has two choices: toe the mayor's line, or get in the bread line.

Maybe someday McCarthy will write a book, and we'll know what he really thought about gun control and the Chicago machine. Maybe someday pigs will fly.

rodinal220
February 19, 2013, 09:09 AM
I wouldn't listen too much to Mcstreetlightassassin.This is a guy that got liquored up and drew his off duty weapon and shot out street lamps,among other things back east.

http://nypdconfidential.com/columns/2006/060925.html

http://www.newarkspeaks.com/forum/showthread.php?p=32058

JFtheGR8
February 19, 2013, 09:36 AM
Anything I would like to say about this guy is not suitable for THR. He's basically just another corrupt Chicago politician with plenty of skeletons in his closet.


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SSN Vet
February 19, 2013, 10:02 AM
What a blatant facist....

The mafia wasn't run out of Chicago, they simple got themselves elected to run the city.

jamesbeat
February 19, 2013, 10:06 AM
Where did this 'musket' nonsense come from anyway?
The Founding Fathers weren't idiots, they knew weapons technology would evolve.
Free speech doesn't just mean speaking, it also means writing and the internet etc.
The Founding Fathers could never have predicted the internet, no matter how smart they were.

InkEd
February 19, 2013, 10:21 AM
What an elitist idiot!

Carl N. Brown
February 19, 2013, 10:23 AM
Not the old "2A only for white male property owner" fallacy again
... "white" male property owners ...
Only white man property owners were obligated to muster for militia service, or hire a substitute.

By existing Colonial records--news reports, diaries, journals, travelers' accounts, etc.--loads of non-whites, females and non-property owners owned guns in Colonial America with no effort made to disarm them as long as they were peaceful and not engaged in criminal activity.

One of the paths for mixed-race Free Persons of Color FPC to become accepted as "white" was to acquire title to land and to participate in militia musters and other "white" civic duties.

Attempts to re-write American history to justify banning guns ought to be called out whenever detected.

HOOfan_1
February 19, 2013, 10:29 AM
McCarthy went on to say that he believes that the 2nd Amendment supports mandatory liability insurance for firearm owners and the mandatory application of GPS tracking devices to civilian owned firearms.

That guy is a danger to public freedom, he ought to be driven out of office on a rail.

He ought to be fired by the citiznes with cause...for violating his oath to defend the constitution

PRM
February 19, 2013, 10:37 AM
This is the kind of jerk that gives a black eye to law enforcement. He is the extreme liberal exception rather than the norm. I've been an LEO since the 1970s in the rural South and just about all the officers I have worked with are Pro-2nd Amendment. You would be hard pressed on the local level to find officers who would enforce any law that is on its face unconstitutional.

Passing laws to infringe upon law abiding citizens will never be a solution to the problem. If more laws were the solution, it would be a non-issue. Murder is already illegal, along with theft of firearms, drug offenses...

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somerandomguy
February 19, 2013, 10:40 AM
Where did this 'musket' nonsense come from anyway?
The Founding Fathers weren't idiots, they knew weapons technology would evolve.
Free speech doesn't just mean speaking, it also means writing and the internet etc.
The Founding Fathers could never have predicted the internet, no matter how smart they were.
Heck, a few of the founding fathers were even inventors. The very first machine gun was produced during the civil war - a mere 100 years AFTER the revolution...it was called the Gatling gun. They even had snipers in those time periods.

Carl N. Brown
February 19, 2013, 10:53 AM
On another thread, I re-skimmed the PDFs of Heller '08 and MacDonald '10, downloaded and read a copy of Sanford Levinson's "The Embarassing Second Amendment"* Yale Law Journal 1989 and re-read my copy of Don B. Kate's Second Amendment article in Levy's Encyclopedia of the American Constitution. I even re-read a summary of criticism of the Carl T. Bogus conference that promoted the "collective rights only" interpretation of 2A.

The name of Police Chief Garry McCarthy of Chicago just doesn't show up among Constitutional scholars, even on his side of the issue.




*Embarrassing to Levinson because he admitted honest scholarship showed 2A is an individual right, and denying it would be dishonest scholarship.

Trent
February 19, 2013, 10:56 AM
Guys, we really need to start looking at these matters in a different light.

Such as...

What REALLY concerns me is that a guy with this viewpoint, and 12,000 armed troops under his command, is a short 100 miles from my present location.

Godsgunman
February 19, 2013, 11:05 AM
What a joke! The only danger to the public is himself and his moronic political agenda. As far as the musket thing goes I guess he and his police force would be breaking the law of not using smooth bore muskets themselves. Another reason to not visit the windy city. 2 cities I'd never be caught dead in NYC and gangster town Chicagio, unfortunately Denver is getting that way also.

TenDriver
February 19, 2013, 11:06 AM
This is the kind of jerk that gives a black eye to law enforcement.

I don't think he gives a black eye to LEO's in general. He certainly represents corrupt Chicago and NYC politics, however.

How people don't see this I'll never understand. Welcome to the age of the low information voter, I guess.

somerandomguy
February 19, 2013, 11:17 AM
I don't think he gives a black eye to LEO's in general. He certainly represents corrupt Chicago and NYC politics, however.

How people don't see this I'll never understand. Welcome to the age of the low information voter, I guess.
Yeah, I wouldn't quite compare him to Chris Dorner just yet...however, he's definately getting there with his radical viewpoints. I wonder how many people are dead due to gun control from people like this clown. Any numbers on that?

PRM
February 19, 2013, 11:55 AM
What REALLY concerns me is that a guy with this viewpoint, and 12,000 armed troops under his command, is a short 100 miles from my present location.

Trent, I don't live in IL - but I'm pretty sure most cops feel the same way about this issue across the board.

1. Local cops don't enforce federal laws.

2. Even if a liberal state passed these laws. You would find a very very small minority who would violate their oath to the Constitution and be a part of disarming American citizens. Hopefully, the courts would strike those laws down before it becomes an issue.

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If you haven't made your voice heard on current 2nd Amendment issues - contact your reps today!!!

http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-l...your-reps.aspx

Akita1
February 19, 2013, 11:58 AM
:barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf::barf:

Pilot
February 19, 2013, 12:16 PM
I am sure a decently trained American CITIZEN could show how effective a musket can really be, especially compared to the fat, corrupt Chicago PD leadership.

MachIVshooter
February 19, 2013, 12:33 PM
The very first machine gun was produced during the civil war - a mere 100 years AFTER the revolution...it was called the Gatling gun. They even had snipers in those time periods.

The rapid fire Puckle gun predates the Gatling by 150 years, and was well known to our framers when they drafted the Bill of Rights.

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20a/artisans%20anonymes%20puckle%20gun-01.JPG

The Gatling was the first practical machine gun, but inventions like the Puckle gun and the Ferguson rifle blow the "2a meant muskets" argument out of the water.

Kingcreek
February 19, 2013, 12:35 PM
Mc captain kangaroo Carthy is an idiot. For some strange reason, Chicago machine avoids hiring a professional and insists on only hiring buffoons. On second though, it's not strange it's consistent. Political views and corruption and power are more important than ability to the Chicago machine.

Jeff White
February 19, 2013, 12:36 PM
Trent said;
What REALLY concerns me is that a guy with this viewpoint, and 12,000 armed troops under his command, is a short 100 miles from my present location.

His attitude is not the prevalent one in Illinois law enforcement. The Illinois Sheriffs Association is the 9th state sheriffs association to come out against the current gun control agenda:

http://www.ilsheriff.org/images/stories/press/press%20release%20on%20gun%20control%20resolution.pdf

beergeek
February 19, 2013, 12:42 PM
Hey, wait a minute . . . . how many rounds does that Pickle gun hold?!
;-)

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r1derbike
February 19, 2013, 01:22 PM
The rapid fire Puckle gun predates the Gatling by 150 years, and was well known to our framers when they drafted the Bill of Rights.

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20a/artisans%20anonymes%20puckle%20gun-01.JPG

The Gatling was the first practical machine gun, but inventions like the Puckle gun and the Ferguson rifle blow the "2a meant muskets" argument out of the water.That thing looks like a "pucker" gun. Maybe through the years the translation was lost?

Trent
February 19, 2013, 01:30 PM
Trent said;


His attitude is not the prevalent one in Illinois law enforcement. The Illinois Sheriffs Association is the 9th state sheriffs association to come out against the current gun control agenda:

http://www.ilsheriff.org/images/stories/press/press%20release%20on%20gun%20control%20resolution.pdf

Oh I know, Jeff. He just happens to be the one with the state's second largest private army under his command.

I'm on good terms with my local Sheriff (Bob Huston, Tazewell County) - Bob is about as pro-gun as they get, and we see eye to eye on most every topic. He's testified down in Springfield before (twice, if I recall correctly), as a proponent of Shall Issue concealed carry.

Pistol Ranch
February 19, 2013, 02:02 PM
The Police Chief and Obama--Both products of Chicago politics. What else do you need to know about this pair of idiots??

P.R.

Derek Zeanah
February 19, 2013, 02:06 PM
Chicago Police Chief: 2nd Amendment Is A Danger To Public Safety"Come on folks, everyone wants to be safer. Right? Well, all you're going to need to do is give up a few more inalienable rights and we promise you'll be safer."

You know what the safest place in the world is? Locked in a padded room, fed a "safe" diet, and under constant observation, and guarded by armed men. Maybe you can have TV and an assigned job to keep you busy. You can even have a spouse, but some people engage in unsafe sex play, so even the bedroom will have night vision cameras and you will not be allowed to engage in physical contact underneath the covers.

It's all for your safety.

Who desires that?

JohnnyK
February 19, 2013, 02:30 PM
now before we all pass judgement on this guy lets first look at his long list of accomplishments at lowering crime in the 3rd largest city in the US...

Deanimator
February 19, 2013, 05:45 PM
You have to understand that this blather comes from a New Jersey transplant who's in charge of a police department so corrupt that until fairly recently, it had a home invasion, burglary and kidnapping ring operating INSIDE it.

It's about as remarkable in the greater scheme of things as the Taliban complaining about immodest women and democracy.

Crashola
February 19, 2013, 05:56 PM
Well that explains a lot. What better way to ensure the success of your corrupt departmental practices than to disarm the public?

r1derbike
February 19, 2013, 06:00 PM
And all this time I thought Chicago was known for pizza...

...blatant stupidity comes to mind, but I don't think I could tag him with that, without moderator intervention.

somerandomguy
February 19, 2013, 07:05 PM
The rapid fire Puckle gun predates the Gatling by 150 years, and was well known to our framers when they drafted the Bill of Rights.

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20a/artisans%20anonymes%20puckle%20gun-01.JPG

The Gatling was the first practical machine gun, but inventions like the Puckle gun and the Ferguson rifle blow the "2a meant muskets" argument out of the water.
True, but I thought it was more of a semi-auto weapon? I didn't think it was a fullblown automatic weapon was it?

USAF_Vet
February 19, 2013, 07:29 PM
True, but I thought it was more of a semi-auto weapon? I didn't think it was a fullblown automatic weapon was it?
Neither was the Gattling gun. A manual crank operated multi barreled weapon is not classified as a machine gun.

somerandomguy
February 19, 2013, 07:39 PM
Neither was the Gattling gun. A manual crank operated multi barreled weapon is not classified as a machine gun.
Oh fair point. Thanks.

Nanook
February 19, 2013, 08:51 PM
This from a clown in charge of a police department that used to have torture as one of their tools.

Talk about dangerous to public safety.

r1derbike
February 20, 2013, 01:08 AM
Anyone remember the Arkansas Prison "Tucker Telephone"? Torture has quite a storied past in history. Hearing about it in IL didn't surprise me, but this was at the precinct level, no? Even Chicago's Violent Crime Unit used one of these; http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=4923

blueridgerunner
February 20, 2013, 06:09 PM
Just a typical political hack

zorro45
February 20, 2013, 06:32 PM
Reading all the background on this guy, do you think the City of Chicago searched for the biggest possible buffoon to put in this office? Bring back the elected sheriff system!

alsaqr
February 20, 2013, 10:32 PM
The chief is a political puppet who parrots the party line while running an incompetent police department.

foxs
February 20, 2013, 10:37 PM
Throw him out of office.

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