what ye like - h110 - 158 Nosler


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thomis
February 19, 2013, 09:27 PM
C'mon now, I bet ye all loaders of .357 using h110 have tried near max charge with the <mostly-standard> 158 grain jacketed bullet. In this case, I'm using the Nosler Sporting Handgun JHP. These handgun bullets are excellent. I've used them all. I want to hear your load data using h1110 and this particular bullet. Don't be shy. You are allowed. Exercise your freedom :)
I'm shooting both 4" and 1 7/8 bbl
and yes, using mag primer. the only .357 load i use mag primers for...
cheers

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gamestalker
February 19, 2013, 09:47 PM
Thomis, I am a big fan of H110 / 296 and have been loading with it for decades. And I do often use the Noslers and others as well. My common load that I shoot out of all my .357's is 18.0 grs. of H110 under a 158 gr. Nosler, XTP or what ever jacketed bullet I happen to have on hand. I've run much high charges than 18.0 during work ups and have yet to experience a problem other than economics of course. I discovered a long time ago that it is just about impossible to get excessively high pressures with H110 or 296. You can't get enough in the case to create serious over pressures.

GS

rcmodel
February 19, 2013, 10:01 PM
I am not a big fan of H110/W296.

In fact I never use it.

I figure if 2400 made the .357 & .44 Magnums reputations, once before I was born, and once again when I was 11 years old?

It's still good enough for me to use.

rc

Fishslayer
February 19, 2013, 10:54 PM
I'm a big fan of the 158gr Nosler SJHP. Priced right and very accurate in my revolvers.

...but I like to set it on top of 14gr of 2400... ;)

ArchAngelCD
February 19, 2013, 11:56 PM
When I load a full power 158gr jacketed .357 Magnum round it's usually with 16.8gr W296/H110. I use those 158gr Nosler bullets and they are very accurate for me and perform well. I originally bought them because they were on sale in a bulk pack and found out how good they were so I kept buying them. I have loaded anywhere between 15.7gr and 17.0gr W296/H110 at times.

buck460XVR
February 21, 2013, 05:36 PM
My common load that I shoot out of all my .357's is 18.0 grs. of H110 under a 158 gr. Nosler, XTP or what ever jacketed bullet I happen to have on hand. I've run much high charges than 18.0 during work ups and have yet to experience a problem other than economics of course..

GS

The highest modern published max load for any jacketed 158 gr bullet in .357 using H110/W296 I've seen is 17 gr. using a Hornady XTP. Noslers seat a little deeper due to the cannelure position, which means they take away a tad of case capacity and thus should increase pressure even more. There's a sticky at the beginning of the "Handloading and Reloading" forum that asks those that post loads exceeding published max include a warning in their post as such. I think GS's post qualifies. While I have loaded 17 gr of H110/W296 under 158 grainers, it was not as accurate in my guns as loads using less.

41 Mag
February 21, 2013, 06:13 PM
Yep I have run it up to the upper end with several different 158gr HP's. My favorite has been the Remington mainly due to price but it simply shoots great in my revolvers as well.

I have also run a few boxes of Nosler, Sierra, and Hornady through it as well, but I keep coming back to the Remington.

dragon813gt
February 21, 2013, 06:25 PM
I use loads published in the manuals. Any one that isn't was developed for my firearms using the proper workups.


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megaton
February 21, 2013, 06:31 PM
Thomis, I am a big fan of H110 / 296 and have been loading with it for decades. And I do often use the Noslers and others as well. My common load that I shoot out of all my .357's is 18.0 grs. of H110 under a 158 gr. Nosler, XTP or what ever jacketed bullet I happen to have on hand. I've run much high charges than 18.0 during work ups and have yet to experience a problem other than economics of course. I discovered a long time ago that it is just about impossible to get excessively high pressures with H110 or 296. You can't get enough in the case to create serious over pressures.

GS
Do you have any chrono readings from those 18 grain loads?

thomis
February 21, 2013, 08:10 PM
:what: 18 grains? the Hodgdon published data lists 16.7 as max. I just loaded 100 at 15.9 grains. should I expect plops?

gamestalker
February 21, 2013, 09:21 PM
I did chrono those 18.0 gr. loads. From a couple 2" S&W 66's they were getting around 1250's fps, and from the 4" barrels some where in the mid 1300's. The thing I noticed most of all is that when I began taking the charge up from around 16. grs. nothing much changed except it burned some what cleaner and I used a couple more grains of powder up.
GS

buck460XVR
February 21, 2013, 09:26 PM
:what: 18 grains? the Hodgdon published data lists 16.7 as max. I just loaded 100 at 15.9 grains. should I expect plops?

Lyman shows 17 as max under a 158 gr. I shoot tons of 158s with 15.5 gr of H110/W296 underneath in both revolvers and carbines. Accurate and pleasant to shoot. Hornady shows 15.6 of H110 as max under it's 158s and Speer shows 15.5 as max. You should expects bangs.

gamestalker
February 21, 2013, 09:27 PM
I wouldn't say you'll get plops, but H110 burns far more efficiently when it is taken up the scale a ways. In my experience, H110 is really hard to over charge with in the .357 mag.. I don't really think it is possible to get enough in a .357 mag case to get out of hand. FYI, always use magnum primers or it won't burn consistently, lots of powder skeletons!

GS

gamestalker
February 21, 2013, 09:35 PM
I'm siting here looking at Hornady data and it shows H110 @ 15.8 max. with a 158 gr., 296 is shown at 16.4 max.. Nosler is @ 15.9, Sierra @ 16.3 for H110 and 296 is at 17.3 grs., Speer is low on the totem pole @ only 15.5 H110 and 14.7 for 296.
But as with any reloading operation, always use starting charges when working up the charge, especially when exceeding published data.

GS

buck460XVR
February 21, 2013, 09:36 PM
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megaton
February 21, 2013, 11:24 PM
Thanks for the info GS, I am getting mid 1400s with 16.7g h110 under a 158g xtp out of a 6" barrel. My gun seems to love this load.

ljnowell
February 22, 2013, 12:05 AM
I am not a big fan of H110/W296.

In fact I never use it.

I figure if 2400 made the .357 & .44 Magnums reputations, once before I was born, and once again when I was 11 years old?

It's still good enough for me to use.

rc
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Let me tell you, it seems there are precious few of us who feel that way anymore, RC. It seems that 2400 in recent years has gotten a stigma of being "old" or "dated." I know there are newer powders out there, but 2400 has been getting it done for years and years. Old Elmer blew up how many guns with it? lol.

I think it smells better than most other magnum powders when it burns too.

joneb
February 22, 2013, 12:57 AM
I use a lot of Nosler 158gr jhp for .357 mag. I live close by and have been shooting their factory 2nds for 20 yrs.
For 2.75" and 4" barreled revolvers I use 2400 and Accurate #7 and #9.

thomis
February 22, 2013, 09:56 AM
Yes, mag primers. I mentioned in my original post I was using mag primers.
I kinda wish I had loaded them a little heavier now though. Especially after hearing all of your recipes and experiences. I'll try them across the chronograph soon and see what I get. The point is though, that I'm trying to use up my mag primers and I can't use them under 2400.

But I agree about the 2400. Its still my favorite powder and my go to classic Keith load is his 429421 255 grain cast over 22 grains of 2400. I have hundreds of them loaded ready to go and thousands of them have passed through my Super Blackhawk.

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