M&P vs Sig


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Newbomb
February 22, 2013, 10:11 AM
M&P40, one mag, night sights $429
Sig 226 .40, night sights, one mag $499
Both police trade ins

Or I can get a 226 9mm with one mag four $585

I have a couple cases of 9 but think maybe i should move to 40 because it is the only thing on the shelves right now. I shoot every 1 of those guns fine so it is pretty much ammo selection. which 1 do you guys think I should go with?

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MK11
February 22, 2013, 11:38 AM
Which trigger system do you prefer?

I'm a long-time Sig guy who was never tempted by Glock but did recently jump to the M&P. I can just pick it up and shoot it better than anything else and it's easier to carry than even a mid-size Sig. Still, if you focus on the Sig, that can be as good as anything out there (some of the quirks of the M&P have me appreciating the Sig all over again).

If you get a .40, you can always get a 9mm conversion barrel. However, 9mm ammo will eventually come back and will probably always be cheaper. I say Sig 9mm.

Rubber_Duck
February 22, 2013, 11:42 AM
I'm a Sig P22x fan, if that 9mm P226 is still available I would grab it. They are hard to come by at those prices, the .40 model is also a great deal, I don't like the .40 S&W as a cartridge itself but for the gun it's a great deal and you should be able to convert it to .357 SIG and 9mm with just a barrel or barrel/magazine swap (respectively). As a reference my LGS has two of the P226s in .40 new in box and he's asking $819! That's steep, but the local deals I've seen for privcate sales of P226s have them in the $700-plus range. The M&Ps are usually around $550 and up and much more availlable.

I vote Sig 9mm. My #2 pick for the finest fighting handgun designed by man.

mnhntr
February 22, 2013, 12:15 PM
apples to oranges they are not even in the same ballpark. It boils down to what you prefer. The Sig would get my vote because I prefer that platform.

Thaddeus Jones
February 22, 2013, 12:23 PM
I agree, Apples and Oranges.

The Sig 226 being an apple. A good looking, reliable, tack driving, hammer fired, metal framed apple.

And the "m&p" being an ugly plastic orange with a lousy trigger, droopy dustcover, that you get to rebuild with the expensive aftermarket Apex parts to make it useable. Parts that it should have been built with to begin with. :)

Shmackey
February 22, 2013, 12:27 PM
I love everything about Sigs except for the DA/SA trigger. It's a nonstarter for me in any gun. I can't shoot them worth a damn, and I find the idea of making a trigger behave like that illogical.

I think right now they offer only their .45 Auto pistols in SAO. If they changed that, I'd pick up a 228 quickly. But for now, I'd choose the M&P even though I appreciate the workmanship of the Sig more.

tarosean
February 22, 2013, 12:34 PM
Sig

allaroundhunter
February 22, 2013, 12:45 PM
I love my M&P 9....But if I had the choice you do I would take either Sig before I grabbed up the S&W...

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Water-Man
February 22, 2013, 12:48 PM
SIG in 9 or 40.

TonyT
February 22, 2013, 02:22 PM
For conmcealed carry I want a pistol without external hammer or safeties thus my preference for the S&W M&P.

9mmepiphany
February 22, 2013, 04:47 PM
M&P40, one mag, night sights $429
Sig 226 .40, night sights, one mag $499
Both police trade ins
For LE trade-ins, the 226 sounds a hair underpriced and the M&P40 a bit overpriced.

I got my last LE trade-in 226 for $450 and my last New M&P 9/40 for $419

Plan2Live
February 22, 2013, 10:02 PM
Sig 226 in 9mm then go on a hunt for spare mags.

EBShooting
February 22, 2013, 10:37 PM
I vote sig. I am a big sig fan. But I was poised to buy an M&P until a friend brought his over to have me install night sights on it. What killed it for me was the requirement of a tool (hidden in the frame) for disassembly.

allaroundhunter
February 22, 2013, 10:44 PM
What killed it for me was the requirement of a tool (hidden in the frame) for disassembly.

You don't have to use that tool to disassemble the gun unless you are removing the backstrap.... You can field strip it just like a Glock if you prefer that way (pulling the trigger).

tarosean
February 22, 2013, 10:44 PM
What killed it for me was the requirement of a tool (hidden in the frame) for disassembly.

Orr pull the trigger like you would a glock and its not needed... I never used the one in my M&P

OARNGESI
February 22, 2013, 10:56 PM
The 226 is way more gun

pat701
February 22, 2013, 10:58 PM
Any Sig over an M&P.

RBid
February 22, 2013, 11:03 PM
More gun and more performance are not always synonymous.

I shoot my SR9c very well, for example. Zero fails in over 2,000 rounds fired. Negligible muzzle rise. Easy accuracy. Less gun than many alternatives. More performance.

The answer to which of these buys is best for the OP lies in trigger and grip preferences.

chuckpro
February 22, 2013, 11:07 PM
I have never shot the S&W so cant help you there but the Sig is a very reliable gun.

I think the Smith has a magazine disconnect so there is no way i would carry it for protection.

allaroundhunter
February 22, 2013, 11:10 PM
I think the Smith has a magazine disconnect so there is no way i would carry it for protection.

It is an option on some guns, as is a manual safety. But all of them don't have one; actually, I would bet that 90% of them don't.

Bobson
February 22, 2013, 11:22 PM
The Sig 226 being an apple.
Agreed. And oranges are healthier than apples.

I'd get the M&P. Vitamin C, baby!

Btw, as its a police trade-in, odds are 99-1 that it doesn't have a manual safety. The SIG very likely has the DAK trigger.

BILLG
February 22, 2013, 11:23 PM
I have both get the Sig.Its the hands down winner.

allaroundhunter
February 22, 2013, 11:30 PM
Btw, as its a police trade-in, odds are 99-1 that it doesn't have a manual safety. The SIG very likely has the DAK trigger.

I wouldn't say that.... Many LE departments have their M&Ps with both manual safeties and magazine disconnects. The only reason LE Glocks don't have either is because they aren't stock options on Glocks.

Bobson
February 23, 2013, 12:13 AM
I wouldn't say that.... Many LE departments have their M&Ps with both manual safeties and magazine disconnects. The only reason LE Glocks don't have either is because they aren't stock options on Glocks.
Weird. I've never heard of LE M&Ps having either of those. I know my brother's department mandates that all their troopers use the M&P40 w/o manual safety. I'm not certain about the mag disconnect, but I don't think it has that either.

allaroundhunter
February 23, 2013, 12:43 AM
Weird. I've never heard of LE M&Ps having either of those. I know my brother's department mandates that all their troopers use the M&P40 w/o manual safety. I'm not certain about the mag disconnect, but I don't think it has that either.

A large percentage of LEO's shot in the line of duty are shot with their own weapon. For that reason, a part of weapon retention training for many officers is to attempt to release the magazine if the officer is struggling with a suspect over the firearm. That way the weapon (with the magazine disconnect) will not fire should the BG gain control of it; and the officer can retrieve his/her BUG and still be in the fight.

I have seen/heard of more officers carrying M&Ps with a mag disconnect and no manual safety than those that have manual safeties though. I was just saying that I would not say that 99% of LE M&Ps do not have a manual safety, because I would guess that it is a smaller percentage.

Carter
February 23, 2013, 01:06 AM
I'd say m&p for sheer simplicity and consistent trigger pull. I also prefer polymer frames over steel. Its a great gun that I've seen far less malfunctions out of than glocks. I think that is mostly due to limp wristing the .40, and the m&p handles the recoil better so limp wristing is mitigated.

9mmepiphany
February 23, 2013, 01:12 AM
I think the Smith has a magazine disconnect so there is no way i would carry it for protection.
Very few M&Ps have the magazine disconnect, it was mostly offered for markets that required them. If you get one that comes with one installed and you don't like it, it is disabled with the removal of a single part and installation of a spring from a ball point pen

contactcole
February 23, 2013, 01:15 AM
The 9mm one.

golfer_ray
February 23, 2013, 01:16 AM
I am not a gun guru, & not an expert shooter, but I've owned two Sig 9mm & couldn't hit even close to the target, but my M&P 40 is a keeper!

allaroundhunter
February 23, 2013, 01:20 AM
I am not a gun guru, & not an expert shooter, but I've owned two Sig 9mm & couldn't hit even close to the target, but my M&P 40 is a keeper!

That just says that either a: you weren't aware that Sig uses a different sight picture than the M&P or b: you were not able to adjust to the Sig's trigger system.

The first one is fixable, the second is all about practice and personal preferences.

Matno
February 23, 2013, 09:07 PM
My Sig p226 still hits at point of aim and will put 10 shots inside an inch and a half at 25 yards (if I do my part) after 21 years...

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