Goodlatte Says House Will Act on Gun Legislation


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Bobk538447
February 22, 2013, 05:24 PM
Goodlatte Says House Will Act on Gun Legislation

"For the first time since the Dec. 14 mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school, House Judiciary Chairman Robert W. Goodlatte said Friday that his chamber will take legislative action to curb gun violence.

“The Congress is going to act on this issue,” Goodlatte, R-Va., said in a telephone interview with CQ Roll Call. “The Senate is at work on it, and we are as well. Our goal is to do anything we can do keep firearms out of the hands of people who should not have them.”

http://cdn.rollcall.com/news/goodlatte_says_house_will_act_on_gun_legislation-222574-1.html?pos=hftxt

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jamesbeat
February 22, 2013, 05:34 PM
Such as enforcing the laws we already have?

DNS
February 22, 2013, 05:38 PM
The definition of who should not have them is already spelled out plainly enough and isn't enforced now.

More laws will fix that? :rolleyes:

klcmschlesinger
February 22, 2013, 05:42 PM
If you read the article I like what he said. He is calling for a history of the laws and their enforcement statistics because the Republicans don't want to pass new laws if the current ones aren't enforced. I think that is good. Let's expose that first, maybe the action will be to call for the enforcement and not new ones, which is what we all know is the real problem.
;)

avalys
February 22, 2013, 05:48 PM
This guy missed his true calling; he should have been CEO of Starbucks.

gazpacho
February 22, 2013, 05:49 PM
I don't have a problem fixing laws that don't work as the laws intend, so long as those laws aren't intended to infringe on my rights in the first place. Okay, so they can fix those laws. It is OUR duty to oversee their work and see that they get it right.

Sheepdog1968
February 22, 2013, 05:56 PM
Don't worry. Voters will act during the 2014 elections. Thanks for the co-sponsors for making our jobs a bit easier.

JayBird
February 22, 2013, 06:00 PM
If the mods want to move my thread into here, it is okay by me.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=704669

It details what I would say the strategy they are using is. ie, it is enforcement.

Bartholomew Roberts
February 22, 2013, 06:50 PM
It looks like the NRA is going to get a record vote in the House and Senate.

AlexanderA
February 22, 2013, 07:11 PM
It looks like the NRA is going to get a record vote in the House and Senate.

There's always the risk that the vote won't go the NRA's way. Then what? The NRA can take retribution at the next election, but in the meantime we're stuck with a bad law. I'd rather play it safe and avoid a vote altogether. By going for a vote, you're throwing away half the arrows in your legislative/tactical quiver. Votes are necessary when you're playing offense, but the NRA is playing defense.

Texan Scott
February 22, 2013, 07:20 PM
And... the antis are quite convinced the NRA is entirely on the defensive. Remember, F'steiners, when your assault on liberty is going really well, you're walking into an ambush. :p

The call for a floor vote means there will be a floor debate. Expect more from this than a simple record of the vote; expect the antis to offer up some really good anti-liberty sound bites.

Politicians: You are being placed up for re-election. Anything you say may be recorded and used against you in the court of public opinion...

AlexanderA
February 22, 2013, 08:24 PM
The call for a floor vote means there will be a floor debate. Expect more from this than a simple record of the vote; expect the antis to offer up some really good anti-liberty sound bites.

Yes, and those "anti-liberty" sound bites will play really well in their home districts -- I know, because I live in one of those districts. This thing cuts both ways. The country is divided into polarized congressional districts. The congresspeople generally reflect what their constituents want. Because of this increasing polarization and gerrymandering, there are fewer and fewer "swing districts" in which a small bloc of dedicated voters (in this case activist NRA members) can make the crucial difference. For the most part, both sides are preachng to the converted.

MachIVshooter
February 22, 2013, 08:52 PM
I don't much care for the "we're open to new laws" tone, but it's also nice to see the conversation finally turn to enforcing existing laws, which is something we've been pushing as a group for a very long time.

*Start actually prosecuting these people for straw purchases; At 10 years per offense, I think you'll see fewer girlfriends and new recruits willing to buy a dozen pistols for their "brothas"

*Increase the penalty for using a firearm in the commission of a violent crime, and make the sentences consecutive, not concurrent. If the scumbag is looking at a paltry 5-10 for armed robbery, but a minimum 25 in addition to the armed robbery sentence if he uses a gun, he may rethink it.

*Do some stings; The war on drugs has been pretty futile, so let's redirect some of the agents and funding to nailing some of these folks who are arming the gang members and other violent criminals. It will also make criminals leery about trying to buy privately if getting caught in stings becomes a routine occurrence. This can be done with minimal (if any) impact on legitimate private sales, unlike the UBC idea. I would actually be OK with hanging out for 5 or 10 minutes while they run me through NCIC on a private sale sting, because this policy actually could catch some of the criminals, where UBC will simply make them go to black market with "trusted" criminal sellers right off the bat.

*Start following the trail on some of the multiple handgun purchases they are informed of. Not the ones where some guy buys a 1911 and a S&W M27, or a consecutive numbered pair of single actions, but the instances where one person purchases a half dozen or more cheap guns at a time, like that group who was fencing Hi-Points. Common sense approach will work here.

*Make the penalty for lying to a private seller about being prohibited the same as lying on 4473, and prosecute it when possible.

giggitygiggity
February 23, 2013, 01:17 AM
I think that the NRA is going the wrong way with things... the NRA should take the offensive and get pro gun politicians to write up legislation that requires states to allow "assault weapons," high cap magazines, machineguns, and suppressors. Reopen the 1986 registry and really piss off those liberal fools. Take the offensive and make the liberals say, "That's ok, we're happy with the laws we have now."

ngnrd
February 23, 2013, 01:52 AM
^^^ This.

I emailed my reps this week and told them they needed to introduce legislation to repeal the GCA of 1968 as a means of supporting and defending the Constitution, which is required by their oaths of office.

RPRNY
February 23, 2013, 01:58 AM
AlexanderA speaks wisely. Never invite a vote unless you have to. Since 2A respecters see no need for further gun owner discrimination laws, inviting a vote that could be subverted is an unnecessarily risky act.

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razorback2003
February 23, 2013, 03:00 AM
Not smart to have a floor vote. Best to let this die in committee.

NosaMSirhC
February 23, 2013, 09:37 AM
I don't think anything will get a floor vote in the House.

Creature
February 23, 2013, 09:48 AM
razorback2003 wrote: Not smart to have a floor vote. Best to let this die in committee.

:banghead:

The midterm elections are twenty months away. A floor vote will expose those who are working to take away our 2nd Amendment rights. We need to know who they are NOW so that suitable opponent candidates can be found and their campaigns started in time to be effective.

Bartholomew Roberts
February 23, 2013, 04:13 PM
The midterm elections are twenty months away. A floor vote will expose those who are working to take away our 2nd Amendment rights.

Is there a question about that which desperately needs answering? It seems about all this vote will do is indicate who are true friends are - and we might not be happy with that answer.

kwguy
February 23, 2013, 05:03 PM
Despite the "cute" sound byte it makes for when the president says "these common sense things deserve an up or down vote", there are actually some things that are so obviously against the constitution and the second amendment, that they do NOT deserve a floor vote, and deserve to die in committee. Most, if not all, of this proposed legislation is just that. It doesn't deserve a vote, it just needs to die.

TAKtical
February 23, 2013, 05:06 PM
And... the antis are quite convinced the NRA is entirely on the defensive. Remember, F'steiners, when your assault on liberty is going really well, you're walking into an ambush.
Thats awesome

Hokkmike
February 23, 2013, 09:02 PM
I think it will come down to some sort of really watered down compromise (I didn't say that was good) like universal background checks and magazine limits or no vote.

Point is, we can make a difference in '14 if we keep the pressure on. Then again in '16. We will have to work had to defeat Hillary or at least send her a clear message by supplying her with Republican Senators.

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