New CTD Catalog...exercise in futility.


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Redlg155
February 22, 2013, 05:41 PM
What good is a catalog with no prices? Just about everything in the CTD catalog that has anything to do with an AR is not priced. However, I did find that you can buy a $1100 Colt AR for $3800 at their website. Go figure..

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Walkalong
February 22, 2013, 05:42 PM
I got it too. The heck with them.

silicosys4
February 22, 2013, 05:53 PM
More of those "good economic principles" that some people seem to applaud CTD for....I Can't say whether 100 people hating your guts and vowing never to give you a penny of business for every 1 person that is happy that you had a rifle available and in stock for outrageous prices is a good thing for their long term success.....
But I can guess

Grassman
February 22, 2013, 06:17 PM
CTD is dead to me.

orionengnr
February 22, 2013, 06:19 PM
Cheaper Than Gold Dust was dead to me years ago.

ThirtyOughtSix
February 22, 2013, 06:26 PM
It would have to be a REALLY good deal for me to buy anything from them again, which I think pretty much rules them out all together.

joeschmoe
February 22, 2013, 07:41 PM
Firestarter or recycle bin with the other junk mail.


(ETA; compare this thread to the one on MidwayUSA)

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=704717

XD 45acp
February 22, 2013, 09:25 PM
Yea I saw that... no prices, said to check website. Waste of paper...

Spymaster
February 22, 2013, 09:57 PM
I did find that you can buy a $1100 Colt AR for $3800 at their website. Go figure..


Economics 101, somebody is obviously paying the price, based upon the enormity of the demand, and shrinking supply, prices will inflate and deflate as the market corrects itself.

I've never made a single purchase from CTD, nonetheless its their business, and they can set whatever pricepoint they feel justified with. What does bother me, are folks such as yourself, who have a fixed a pricepoint forever tattooed to their mind, a thing that is completely without reason. Price is a reflection of supply v demand, something that seems to be completely beyond your grasp.

CTD, and every other retailer for that matter, are not beholden to your idea of value, value is established by the market, there is no such thing as an $1100.00 AR, that value point is transitional, in fact your conclusion is much the same as deciding that because you paid $1100.00 for an AR, it will always be worth $1100.00.

Translation: You are being priced out of the market, why? because obviously you can't, or won't afford such a purchase point, unfortunately for you, many Americans can, and they are!

splithoof
February 22, 2013, 09:58 PM
My peacocks love to use the CTD catalog; I have potty trained them to go on paper, and that catalog is so inflated that it fits in the roost box perfectly.

Redlg155
February 22, 2013, 10:09 PM
I think that most are just as sick of folks spouting economics 101 for justificationthe as they are of the ones pointing out the excessive prices.

So it seems that some have it taooed in their minds that no matter how high the price of an item, it's ok..economics 101. :barf:

I can say it's wrong. You can say it's right. I doubt if either one of us buys one at that price. Why? We both know it's a foolish purchas

Spymaster
February 22, 2013, 10:18 PM
I think that most are just as sick of folks spouting economics 101 for justificationthe as they are of the ones pointing out the excessive prices.

So it seems that some have it taooed in their minds that no matter how high the price of an item, it's ok..economics 101. :barf:

I can say it's wrong. You can say it's right. I doubt if either one of us buys one at that price. Why? We both know it's a foolish purchas
All you end up doing is coming off as embittered. Don't like them, shop somewhere else! However, your ideas on whats right and wrong pricing, are the products of illusion.

Akita1
February 22, 2013, 10:31 PM
As I posted on another "we now all hate CTD" thread, it burned well in the fireplace and the ink made nice colors in the flames for my kids to enjoy.

Mooseman
February 22, 2013, 10:36 PM
I don't have a problem with the way they set their prices, but the latest catalog was annoying. I would have been happier with a thin catalog that only showed the items with prices.

gc70
February 22, 2013, 10:41 PM
Economics 101, somebody is obviously paying the price, based upon the enormity of the demand, and shrinking supply, prices will inflate and deflate as the market corrects itself.

The situation was much the same in real estate before 2008. But bubbles burst and there are far fewer builders and far more foreclosures today than in 2008.

Redlg155
February 22, 2013, 11:03 PM
In all actuality, embittered is ignoring the initial focal point of the thread, a catalog with no prices, and instead seeking to provide justification for a major retailer raising prices.

Tirod
February 22, 2013, 11:19 PM
Don't care what they do - if CTD wants to price things up and down every other week, it's their business, they can do exactly what they want.

It's The American Way - make a profit.

Now, those who like dealing with phoning every time they want to buy something to get the price of the hour, or dealing with catalogs that have no pricing at all, keep it up. They are getting your money, and you're happy with the way it's working.

But - if you are like me - no price means, no deal. And if you like pricing it at museum levels - like the average collector or flea market entrepreneur - no sale. I know there are other sources, moving on to find the better deal is going to happen and it's a guarantee I can knock at least 25% off if not more. All you have to do is look. The internet is your friend.

I appreciate all the disillusionment about CTD's prices, it's about time - they haven't been cheap for 20 years, and we've been saying it since before the internet started. If you don't like their pricing, or lack of it, fine. Don't buy.

But really, getting all hurt over it? They never promised to protect your interest and give away things at cost. That's the funny side of this every time I see a post in a forum. CTD is just another retailer - and over the years, I find very few who don't do the same things. Most of the time, it's just not so obvious.

481
February 22, 2013, 11:46 PM
My CTD catalog is tossed immediately from the mail into the recycle bin in hopes that it'll return as something useful.

lobo9er
February 22, 2013, 11:48 PM
Gun guys should boycott CTD like its a STD.

klyph
February 23, 2013, 12:07 AM
A friend of mine who works there says the employees refer to the company as "lower than dirt". While it's true that the customer sets the price, they have other unsavory practices such as halting firearm sales during unfavorable political climates that are reason enough for me to never purchase from them.

Onward Allusion
February 23, 2013, 01:07 AM
Econ 101? Um, ok... Things like cancelling orders due to price increases; charging extra shipping because of their own logistic challenges; not honoring prices in print; and outright price gouging are not Econ 101.

safebustr
February 23, 2013, 01:10 AM
Yep, Nice catalog for the dog to go on, they will never see any more of my $$$

Texasrpbrock
February 23, 2013, 01:13 AM
Yep, Nice catalog for the dog to go on, they will never see any more of my $$$
You beat me to it.... I hope they send me more. I'm too cheap to buy a newspaper and I don't want the dog going on my iPad.

Akita1
February 23, 2013, 08:24 AM
I just got ANOTHER one in the mail (after burning the first last week). They must be reading the threads...I can use it for packaging material to ship stuff I sell on Gunbroker.

SaxonPig
February 23, 2013, 08:32 AM
Well, since the price on ammo or anything else gun-related will go up between the time the catalog is printed and when it is mailed; and the prices will go up between the time you place the order and the time it is received; and the price will go up again between the time they get the order and the time it ships; what do you expect?

76shuvlinoff
February 23, 2013, 08:34 AM
Even before the recent events, back when pricing was "normal", CTD's shipping and handling fees were outrageous and I chucked their catalogs on the way in from the mailbox.

Robbins290
February 23, 2013, 09:08 AM
I started chucking ctd catalogs 6-8 years ago with there "shipping" charges. Last time I checked them for shipping cost. They had different warehouses. That was my limit. I don't care of they had somethit I needed. I'd rather go with out

Redlg155
February 23, 2013, 09:12 AM
I wonder if they ship catalogs from warehouse A,B,C or D?

BullfrogKen
February 23, 2013, 10:47 AM
CTD has been dead to me for nearly 20 years.


Someone's buying from them . . . just not me.

skoro
February 23, 2013, 01:01 PM
I was a regular CTD customer.

Until 4-1/2 years ago.

They'll never see another dime from me.

HankB
February 23, 2013, 11:03 PM
Some years back, I placed an order from CTD; at the time, they were running some sort of promotion "get this widget free with purchase of $XX.XX" . . .

I got my order, well above the minimum $, but no free widget. When I called and politely asked about it, I was told they must have forgotten to put it in . . . so I asked if they were going to ship me one, and they said "We don't do that."

As I was asking to speak to a manager, the girl cut me off with a "Too bad for you!", laughed, and hung up on me. :fire:

Needless to say, CTD has been dead to me ever since. I just make sure I keep getting their catalog, simply to cost them a little money.

(BTW, I have only good things to say about my experiences ordering from Brownell's and MidwayUSA.)

Dean1818
February 25, 2013, 06:21 PM
CTD seems to make the wrong choice every day.

They seem to be on a mission to alienate EVERY customer in North America


They wont get anymore of my coin...

Trent
February 26, 2013, 06:20 AM
I can't say that me boycotting them would have any effect whatsoever, because I've never bought from them. Never ordered anything from CTD, never plan to.

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