No load data for .38 spl +p and W231


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JSmith
February 23, 2013, 06:45 PM
I had planned to load some .38spl +p soon. I checked Hodgdon's online load data chart for .38 spl +p using W231 and there isn't any.

I suppose if there's no load data shown, Hodgdon doesn't want me to use 231 for +p, huh? The problem for me is that 231 is the only powder I have on hand.

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oneounceload
February 23, 2013, 06:51 PM
Plenty of 38 Spl loads. +P isn't that much faster, nor are the powder loads that much heavier, maybe .2 grains

sellersm
February 23, 2013, 07:13 PM
231 seems awfully fast to use for +P.

Reefinmike
February 23, 2013, 07:18 PM
my lee manual doesnt list w231 for +p loads, but it does for hp38. hp38 is the same exact powder as 231, just a different label and a black cap on the can instead of a blue cap. 125gr xtp lists 4.7gr starting and 5.3 max. 158gr xtp lists 4.0gr starting and 4.6 max.

what type of bullet are you shooting?

SHR970
February 23, 2013, 07:21 PM
Speer 12 has data as well as the older Winchester manuals.

As was stated earlier, for the most part +P is .2 grains over standard.

StandingTall
February 23, 2013, 07:25 PM
I checked Hodgdon's online load data chart for .38 spl +p using W231 and there isn't any.

No, but it does list +P data for HP-38. Same thing

J2FLAN
February 23, 2013, 07:32 PM
The Hodgdon`s reloading manual shows most all bullet weights for 38+P with jacketed bullets, useing HP38, as already said, its the same as W231.
The Winchester manual shows the loads for 231.
If you are shooting lead, load data is harder to find.

Magnum Shooter
February 23, 2013, 08:07 PM
You could just load to max and not worry about squezing that last little bit out of them.

Starter52
February 23, 2013, 08:29 PM
I use a +P load of 4.5 grains of WW 231 and a cast 158 gr. LSWC bullet. It's a good load for the 50 yard metal targets.

JSmith
February 23, 2013, 09:41 PM
what type of bullet are you shooting?

Berry's 125-gr plated flatpoints.

You could just load to max and not worry about squezing that last little bit out of them.

That's probably the way I'll go. My wife wants me to load some practice ammo for her that will feel like her +p self-defense loads. A max or near-max .38 spl load should work OK.

bds
February 23, 2013, 10:04 PM
My wife wants me to load some practice ammo for her that will feel like her +p self-defense loads.
For Berry's 125 gr FP bullets, how about 4.8-5.0 gr W231?

1999-2005 Winchester .38Spl +P load data (http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=159609&stc=1&d=1329800605) for W231

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=180291&stc=1&d=1361671172

Hodgdon load data for .38 Spl (http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp)
125 GR. CAST LRNFP W231/HP-38 Dia .358" OAL 1.445" Start 3.8 gr (876 fps) 10,300 CUP - Max 4.8 gr (1071 fps) 16,900 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP W231/HP-38 Dia .357" OAL 1.455" Start 4.3 gr (826 fps) 13,300 CUP - Max 4.9 gr (934 fps) 16,300 CUP

Current Hodgdon load data for .38 Spl +P (http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp)
110 GR. HDY XTP HP-38 OAL 1.455" Max 5.9 gr (1155 fps) 18,700 CUP
125 GR. HDY XTP HP-38 OAL 1.455" Max 5.3 gr (1018 fps) 19,800 CUP
140 GR. HDY XTP HP-38 OAL 1.455" Max 4.9 gr (892 fps) 18,600 CUP
146 GR. SPR JHP HP-38 OAL 1.370" Max 4.9 gr (975 fps) 17,700 CUP
158 GR. HDY XTP HP-38 OAL 1.455" Max 4.6 gr (807 fps) 18,100 CUP
170 GR. SIE JHC HP-38 OAL 1.450" Max 4.4 gr (819 fps) 18,100 CUP

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