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Mat, not doormat
February 24, 2013, 02:57 AM
So, I was at a local gun store today, looking for a turkey call. I happened to glance at the pistol case, and they had a metric ton of police trades in there. Since I'd been thinking on and off about picking up a G19 for the last couple of months, one of the G21s followed me home. It made sense at the time. Really. Sort of.

Anyhow, I know some stuff about Glocks, by osmosis from hanging around places like this. But this is the first one that's been mine. I'm suddenly a bit more interested. Can anyone point me toward relevant resources? Good places for parts, (specifically thinking a cut-rifled barrel, since I mostly shoot lead reloads) things like that? Anything I should really be aware of?

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Inebriated
February 24, 2013, 03:07 AM
Well, GlockTalk tends to have a lot of good info.

For reloads, you definitely want a traditional rifled barrel (Lone Wolf, Storm Lake, KKM, etc). Polygonal barrels can build up lead and cause pressure problems.

PabloJ
February 24, 2013, 03:09 AM
Congratulations. The G21 is the best service pistol being made. There is Glockmeister, Storm Lake barrels, Lone Wolf barrels,.....even Wilson of Arkansas sells barrels for G-pistols. One tidbit of info. I read that one can actually assemble certain Glock models w/o using ANY Glock factory parts.

Inebriated
February 24, 2013, 10:55 PM
One CAN do that.... it's kind of funny, actually. I've been planning on doing it myself.

The only thing I think that would have to be Glock is the locking block and slide release spring... I can't think of anyone who makes an aftermarket one of either of those.

chris in va
February 25, 2013, 12:12 AM
You won't need an aftermarket barrel for lead in the 21. I put well over a thousand through mine with zero leading.

It doesn't have normal polygonal rifling, more like a smoothbore with speedbumps. Of course check the barrel every hundred rounds regardless, but I never had to do more than run a mop through mine.

johnmcl
February 26, 2013, 10:33 AM
Roger on what Chris just posted. The barrels in the 45 line, and in particular the 21 and 30, have the reputation for being the best Glock has to offer. The difference in rifling lends evidence to the assertion that the barrels are made on tooling different than the other Glocks.

I'd recommend you shoot your 21 as is for a while. You may discover, as I did many years ago, that it shoots just fine. Then your $109 for a replacement barrel can go towards something else, like a superior set of sights.

newglockguy
February 26, 2013, 01:26 PM
Just rented a G21 at a range and loved it. The grip is a bit too big for me to carry but for a range gun or a hd gun it's great. Nice purchase, hope you enjoy it.

ljnowell
February 26, 2013, 06:20 PM
The g21 rifling is not the same and the cartridge does not have the pressure that others do. Many of us G21 owners shoot lead without any issues at all. Read up on it. I would NOT recommend a lone wolf barrel either, go KKM.

Jesse 8
February 26, 2013, 06:24 PM
Nice purchase! My EDC is a G30SF. Very actuate platform, I've been wanting a 21 to go along with it. Happy shooting! Let us know how you like it

FireInCairo
February 26, 2013, 07:09 PM
If you want to buy parts to modify it, you may want to consider going to one of the bigger places like Brownells or Midway as they seem to be handling the overwhelming orders most places are seeing much better than the smaller places.

Some options:

- 3.5 pound trigger connecter (will lighten the pull enough to make it worth the bother)
- extended slide release
- extended mag release
- backup recoil spring
- extended slide lock lever
- grip plug
- glock tool (a 3/32 punch works just as well)

There are plenty of decent videos out there to help you do these mods. The Glock is elegantly simple. Don't be afraid to take it apart and do some tweaking. It all goes back together pretty easy.

Cesiumsponge
February 26, 2013, 07:15 PM
I'd leave the trigger alone. Try the "25 cent trigger job" with some polish to see how it feels first before dropping money on changing out functional parts. If your hands are small like mine, an extended mag release is helpful to not break grip.

miles1
February 26, 2013, 07:18 PM
So, I was at a local gun store today, looking for a turkey call. I happened to glance at the pistol case, and they had a metric ton of police trades in there. Since I'd been thinking on and off about picking up a G19 for the last couple of months, one of the G21s followed me home. It made sense at the time. Really. Sort of.

Anyhow, I know some stuff about Glocks, by osmosis from hanging around places like this. But this is the first one that's been mine. I'm suddenly a bit more interested. Can anyone point me toward relevant resources? Good places for parts, (specifically thinking a cut-rifled barrel, since I mostly shoot lead reloads) things like that? Anything I should really be aware of?
Mat,
I don't live that far away from you(maybe 40 min tops).Can you share what gun store you got your glock from and roughly the price range of the police trade-ins?

exdetsgt
February 27, 2013, 01:57 AM
I carried a G21 as a duty weapon for a little over a year. Of all the Glocks I have owned, I shot the highest qualifying score with it. For some stupid bit of reasoning which I currently cannot recall, I sold it and got a G19. Its barrel is long enough for duty carry but, as the G19 is smaller I thought I could get by with it for both duty and EDC. Turned out it's too big for that (I'm not a big guy), and thus hard to conceal. So I added a G26 to my Glock collection. It conceals better. Then I bought a Beretta Nano. It conceals even better.

If I can find another G21 at a price I can live with I'll buy it and sell the G19.
You can't go wrong with a G21. For duty, for EDC (if you are a big guy), for competition,
it's an all-around great pistol.

Mat, not doormat
February 27, 2013, 06:42 AM
You won't need an aftermarket barrel for lead in the 21. I put well over a thousand through mine with zero leading.

It doesn't have normal polygonal rifling, more like a smoothbore with speedbumps. Of course check the barrel every hundred rounds regardless, but I never had to do more than run a mop through mine.

Well, that's good news. I'll have to load some up, and check it out.

Nice purchase! My EDC is a G30SF. Very actuate platform, I've been wanting a 21 to go along with it. Happy shooting! Let us know how you like it

Well, I've only got a box of ammo through it so far, but it was I liked it a lot. In fact, I liked it better than the 1911 I took along to compare it to. I just recently became left handed, and I can't remember ever having shot hardball in that gun before, in that hand. It wasn't really all that pleasant. The G21 on the other hand, with its wider grip, really softened the blow. Also, the accuracy was impressive for a service pistol. Here's the first mag I put through it. Nothing extreme, just 25 feet, but I'll take it.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x320/fastgun24/IMG_20130227_052634_zpsb79d9127.jpg

Matter of fact, I liked shooting it so much, I'm thinking about re-upping my USPSA membership, so I can go play in Production. .45 Minor in a gun this size? :D

Mat,
I don't live that far away from you(maybe 40 min tops).Can you share what gun store you got your glock from and roughly the price range of the police trade-ins?

I may have stretched the definition of "local," as it was Ohio Valley Outdoors, in Lancaster. They had some atrocious looking Taurus revolvers, G21s, G22s, Kahr K9s, all for $379.

If I can find another G21 at a price I can live with I'll buy it and sell the G19. You can't go wrong with a G21. For duty, for EDC (if you are a big guy), for competition, it's an all-around great pistol.

I'm not small, at 6'1" and a bit over 200lbs. I haven't got a holster for it as yet, but I did stick it in my belt just to get a sense of how it would carry IWB, and I was surprised. For such a big gun, it seemed to disappear pretty well.

Basically, I'm diggin' this gun, a lot more than I'd really expected.

hentown
February 27, 2013, 08:47 AM
My first Glock was a 2nd gen G21, about 20 yrs ago. When I blew it up, Glock sold me a new, gen 3 G21, which I still have, for $291.50. They even threw in new Trijicons. :) I've put tens of thousands of rounds through G21s, including over 10k .400 Cor-Bons and over 3000 .40 Supers. Have fired a few .45 Supers and .450 smc through mine, as well.

I don't like the feel of any of the Glock factory trigger connectors, so I install aftermarket connectors in all my Glocks, including my daily carry G26. I also don't like the feel of nekked plastic in my hands, so, until recently, I used Agrip, exclusively, on my Glocks. I recently tried Wilson tennis racket grip tape, and love the feel of that stuff. It's inexpensive, easy-to-apply, and doesn't leave a residue.

I gave one of my G21s to my oldest son for home defense use a coupla years ago. I shoot my remaining G21 frequently. About two years ago, I bought two of the KRISS mag extension kits, but couldn't get them to work. Contacted KRISS recently, and they'd changed the spring design and sent me some new springs. Now I have two 30rd, reliable mags for my G21. ;)

I am currently using a threaded, compensated KKM barrel in my G21; however, I like the Lone Wolf barrels just as much and have a a threaded LWD G17 barrel on order, for use with a suppressor.

Hope you continue to like your G21! I shoot nothing but my reloads through mine, but I don't reload lead, so have no experience with barrel leading in my Glocks.

miles1
February 27, 2013, 09:06 AM
Im not a glockaholic but I gotta say they did it right with the G21.Nice purchase and nice price as well.

bill3424
February 28, 2013, 11:48 AM
GlockTalk, Glockmesiter, Top Gun Supply, Brownells, Midway are some good resources to check out. Night Sights, Mags, ammo. You should be all set. One thing that you may look at is the connector. Some guys like a lighter pull some like it heavier like a revolver. It's up to you.

Takem406
February 28, 2013, 02:51 PM
Well, GlockTalk tends to have a lot of good info.

For reloads, you definitely want a traditional rifled barrel (Lone Wolf, Storm Lake, KKM, etc). Polygonal barrels can build up lead and cause pressure problems.

Yeah if they let you on their forums. Some how my IP address is blocked and their administration won't bother to email me back...

I go to Glock Forums;-)

Congrats! The Cabela's here has a ton if refurbished Glocks too!

In God and Glock we Trust

JoeMal
February 28, 2013, 02:54 PM
Lots of good advice here to get you started...but one thing I haven't seen yet...

You should shoot the snot out of it. Then, resupply on ammo, and repeat. Enjoy it, congrats

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