An Interesting Discovery-


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Ala Dan
March 11, 2004, 05:43 PM
Greeting's All-

Just pulled some old references pertaining to
sidearms from my library, and thumbing thru

The 100 Greatest Combat Pistols by
Timothy J. Mullin (1994 Palladin Press)

I find that he grouped my favorite, the world
class SIG-SAUER P220 into the category that
covers firearms made in Switzerland. Now, we
all know that the P220 is made in Germany; do
we not? Other SIG's making the cut were the
9m/m P226 and P228. I find this work very
interesting; as it gives range reports, and
results on the "cinema range". I'm not quite
clear what a "cinema range" really is; any of
you folks know, please advise!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

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Majic
March 11, 2004, 05:59 PM
I may have the history wrong, but wasn't the P220 built for the Swiss army to replace the 210 before the company merged with J.P. Sauer in the 1970's? I think they made the P230 for the Swiss police about the same time.

Ala Dan
March 11, 2004, 06:15 PM
Greeting's Majic

You are exactly right, my friend! :cool: The cost per
unit of the P210 got out of hand; so they resorted
to the P220 for the Swiss military. I'm in complete
agreement; what a wonderful find! ;) I just had
mine out looking at it a short time ago; paying a
lot of attention to the craftsmanship and detail.
The Swiss are known for their pride in this field;
and it surely shows. Long live SIG!

FWIW, my daughter is due to have her first child
on or about SEPT 13th of this year. If the first born
is a son, I have already provided detailed instructions
for MY P220 to be returned to the factory for a refurb
job; and passed on to him, GOD willing! As it has been
the most excellent handgun that I've ever owned; and
there has been approximately 125 or so?

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Ala Dan
March 11, 2004, 06:35 PM
Oops, I forgot that the P225 made the cut also!

Sorry for the oversight, folk's. :( ;)

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Majic
March 11, 2004, 06:46 PM
Well the Swiss just couldn't build a slouch to replace the 210. The Swiss reputation was at stake. ;)

1911Tuner
March 11, 2004, 06:55 PM
No doubt about it...the Sigs are excellent. If I were forced to choose
a .45 caliber autopistol BESIDES the 1911, the Sig would be my hands-down choice without reservation or hesitation.

Cheers!

Tuner

Bullet Bob
March 11, 2004, 07:13 PM
Yeah man, SIG's are great! I paid $100.00 for mine - a K31!

Mr. Mysterious
March 11, 2004, 08:24 PM
So what are the other 100 or so odd ones on the list ;)

Ala Dan
March 11, 2004, 10:56 PM
Just to name a few:

a) Browning's P-35
b) Glock's 17, 18, & 21
c) Colt New Service .45 LC
d) CZ75
e) Smith & Wesson New Century Triple Lock
f) Webley MK-V .38/200
g) Smith & Wesson Military & Police Pre-Model 10
h) Luger M-23
i) MAC 50 (9x19)
j) MAB-15
k) P08 Luger/Artillery Luger
l) Dreyse
m) Mauser HSc
n) Sauer Model 38
o) Walther PP/PPK
p) Walther P-38
q) H&K VP70
r) Walther P-5
s) H&K P7
t) Colt Army Special (.38 Special)
u) RK-59 (9m/m Makarov)
v) Ruger P85
w) Beretta M1934
x) Nambu/Baby Nambu
y) SIG 210
z) Colt 1911

aa) Colt or Smith & Wesson 1917 (.45ACP)
bb) Remington PA 51
cc) Smith & Wesson model 15
dd) Smith & Wesson model 10
ee) Colt Detective Special
ff) Smith & Wesson (old model) 60 .38 Special
gg) Smith & Wesson model 39
hh) H&K P9S
ii) Beretta 92
jj) ASP

There you have some idea of a partial list!

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Mr. Mysterious
March 11, 2004, 11:32 PM
Much appreciated!

Jim Watson
March 11, 2004, 11:48 PM
A "cinema range" is most likely one of those training setups with a scenario movie projected on an expendable screen. You react and shoot as the situation requires. Early versions just stopped at the shot so you could score against the freeze frame on the screen. Now they are computerized and keep a running tally of your decisions and marksmanship.

Mullin reports that a lot of guns do better on the cinema range than their static target scores would lead you to expect... and vice versa.

I like reading his stuff. He says there are untold people alive today because their grandfathers were missed with WW I rifles that would not zero closer than 400 yards. Production values and editing of the Paladin Press editions of his books are terrible, but worth wading through.

The P220 is the commercial version of the Swiss P75 service pistol, post P210.

Ala Dan
March 12, 2004, 05:05 AM
Excellent work there Mr. Watson! I appreciate the info.
Yes, I like reading Mullins work also; as a lot of good
points are brought out! Take Care~

P-75 uh? I didn't know that.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

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