Which Cartridge Shortage Is Causing You the Most Angst?


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bushmaster1313
February 26, 2013, 11:54 PM
Lots of cartridges are hard to find at reasonable prices.

Personally, it is the scarcity of low recoil 12 gauge 00 Buckshot that impacts me the most.

I enjoy setting up 3 targets at 15 feet and practicing for both accuracy and quick follow-up with a 12 gauge riot gun.

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Torian
February 26, 2013, 11:57 PM
Quality M855 or SS109 (green tip NATO) loads. I hate shooting that wolf crap...it stinks and rarely shoots accurately.

Sport45
February 27, 2013, 12:03 AM
I'll probably run out of .22lr first. I reload for everything else and should have enough components to ride this out.

Birdhunter1
February 27, 2013, 12:13 AM
I had just got into reloading for my 9mm in early December so I had not bought alot of bullets or primers as I was going to find a load then buy a bunch. Unfortunately I didn't find a load I liked till the week of Christmas and by then supplies were scarce. I was able to come across some primers and bullets weren't hard to find, but now I've got everything except primers and just enough loaded to sustain a practicing level of shooting if I so desire.
For now I have just stopped shooting for the most part in general, can't replace anything except shotgun shells.

However I also have a ton of shotgun components and a nice electronic clay target thrower.
I also have a rifle I am still searching for the right load so that keeps my burnt gunpowder addiction at bay.

P.S. I have my own range so I can pretty much shoot anytime with anything, don't have to worry about brass scavengers.

Killian
February 27, 2013, 12:20 AM
My M388 Davey Crockett. I just can't find ammo for it. Maybe in Texas.

Torian
February 27, 2013, 12:22 AM
I had just got into reloading for my 9mm in early December so I had not bought alot of bullets or primers as I was going to find a load then buy a bunch. Unfortunately I didn't find a load I liked till the week of Christmas and by then supplies were scarce. I was able to come across some primers and bullets weren't hard to find, but now I've got everything except primers and just enough loaded to sustain a practicing level of shooting if I so desire.
For now I have just stopped shooting for the most part in general, can't replace anything except shotgun shells.

However I also have a ton of shotgun components and a nice electronic clay target thrower.
I also have a rifle I am still searching for the right load so that keeps my burnt gunpowder addiction at bay.

P.S. I have my own range so I can pretty much shoot anytime with anything, don't have to worry about brass scavengers.
You have your own range? But...you live in IL? How is that legal?

:P

fehhkk
February 27, 2013, 12:22 AM
Can't find small pistol primers, and my stock is down to 500.

So this means all pistol caliber shortage annoys me.

bushmaster1313
February 27, 2013, 12:27 AM
I was surprised at the run on .22 LR.
But given the escalating cost of everything else it does make sense.

JTHunter
February 27, 2013, 12:39 AM
Start with .357, then .38 Specials, ending up on .22 LR.
I have enough 7.62 x 39, .243, and .380 (I reload the last two) BUT I need brass and primers!

Spymaster
February 27, 2013, 12:42 AM
Lots of cartridges are hard to find at reasonable prices.

Personally, it is the scarcity of low recoil 12 gauge 00 Buckshot that impacts me the most.

I enjoy setting up 3 targets at 15 feet and practicing for both accuracy and quick follow-up with a 12 gauge riot gun.
I have no angst whatsoever, I learned my lessons well from the AWB, it was then that I began stockpiling cases of ammo, literally tens of thousands of rounds of 9mm, .45 ACP, 5.56, .40, and .38/.357.

I think many of those hardest hit by the commie purge of the American firearms market, are SOL for at least the next two years, and God help them if the commies secure another super-majority at the next mid-term, which at this point I'd say is all but an absolute certainty.

bushmaster1313
February 27, 2013, 12:48 AM
it was then that I began stockpiling cases of ammo, literally tens of thousands of rounds of 9mm, .45 ACP, 5.56, .40, and .38/.357.

Assuming it legal, I would save what I need to shoot for the next 20 years and unload the rest at a profit.

Fishslayer
February 27, 2013, 01:09 AM
The only thing I'm really sweating right now is the shortage, or rather the unavailability of Bear Creek bullets. None to be found...:uhoh:

Spymaster
February 27, 2013, 01:12 AM
Of course its legal, I can own as much ammo as I want, and I have, and you can to, at least for now. As for selling it, I've been doing just that over at gunbroker. The profits are now approaching ridiculous levels. I've never seen anything like it, cases that I purchased years ago for as little as $90.00 selling easily for $600.00!

Soon, I'll be able to simply trade ammo for just about any firearm I want, currently a case of 9mm is worth more then an NIB Glock-19, and I am quite certain that in the weeks ahead it will soar beyond that point.

hueyville
February 27, 2013, 01:24 AM
Not a vote for none. Can't participate.

Teachu2
February 27, 2013, 01:43 AM
I ran into an old friend at the range Monday. He'd brought his BHP in to get a little practice, and thought he was going to buy ammo there. They told him he was six weeks too late.

I happened to have a spare box with me, and was done for the day, so I handed it to him. He tried to pay me for it, but I simply told him he'd done so much for so many over the years (very charitable guy) that it was an honor to get to help him out. He got a little choked up, then told me he'd been having a lousy day but that I'd just turned it around. That made MY day!

HOWARD J
February 27, 2013, 01:45 AM
I have no shortage of anything in the weapon field

towerdog
February 27, 2013, 01:58 AM
I have plenty but I can't believe .22lr is hard to get I am just shooting a little less of it to make it last. Everything else I reload for and have all the stuff I need for now.

Ignition Override
February 27, 2013, 03:37 AM
hueyville: I'm with you.

People (who had some extra cash) should have anticipated the clear possibility of a future panic, via the increasing media spotlights following recent well-publicized/exploited tragedies over the last one/two years.

I feel sorry for the masses who made wild assumptions, but those with extra loot should have bought a small contingency heap, at least .22.

MedWheeler
February 27, 2013, 07:03 AM
I voted 22LR, but only because it is my most-commonly fired round, not because I don't have any. What I do have would be used up in probably three or four more range sessions, maybe even fewer because I have less centerfire stuff as well, so I'd probably be shooting a higher ratio of rimfire-to-centerfire than I usually do.

I've also recently acquired two new .22 handguns that are really enjoyable for me to shoot, and want to fire them some more. One is a revolver (and a single-action one at that), so it will run cheap stuff, and take longer to do so.

But, my Ruger/Tapco 1022 will go through my more-expensive MiniMags a lot faster, as will my other rimfire handguns.

Plan2Live
February 27, 2013, 07:10 AM
No angst here, I just backed off on how much I shoot. I can practice mag changes without firing a shot and I can use snap caps to practice dry firing. Live fire practice is down to a minimum until this passes. When I do shoot I am mixing dummy rounds in with live ammo so I can practice clearance drills rather than just punching holes in papaer. If anything, this shortage has caused me to train smarter. I have a good supply of all calibers but I'm not going to shoot through them.

As for .22, I was stocked up on that. Not because I shoot it all that much but I always thought it would be a desireable caliber for barter if we ever get to that point. The current shortage proves I was right.

From a RSO standpoint, I'm kinda glad to see the .22 shortage. People shooting .22 at the range don't seem to think they have to clean up their brass and manage to sneak away without cleaning up while us RSOs have our attention diverted with a new person coming online or some similar distraction.

sansone
February 27, 2013, 08:50 AM
I just sold a box of .22LR winchester bulk (333 count) for $19 and apologized to the customer 3 times while giving him change :o He said he would take another if I would sell it :eek: This ammo shortage is beginning to frustrate mom/pop merchants to the point of feeling responsible for it. (us anyway) seriously considering a vacation (close store) until this blows over... so I chose .22LR for the poll

Grassman
February 27, 2013, 10:15 AM
Not even close, .22lr is the hardest to find. At least in my neck of the woods.

jmorris
February 27, 2013, 10:20 AM
None, I ran low in '94 on some things and learned my lesson. I also keep gloves in the shop and in the truck, it makes life easy when you are prepared.

Carne Frio
February 27, 2013, 10:23 AM
I voted other; would like to see more 10mm.
I have all I want or need of the rest.

MErl
February 27, 2013, 10:30 AM
I got caught without any large pistol primers on hand, otherwise no issues.

shaggy430
February 27, 2013, 10:33 AM
None. Anyone who wasn't prepared before all this went down should take their crystal ball in for service. The writing has been on the wall since election season '08.

RFMan
February 27, 2013, 10:37 AM
I voted 22LR, but only because it is my most-commonly fired round, not because I don't have any. What I do have would be used up in probably three or four more range sessions, maybe even fewer because I have less centerfire stuff as well, so I'd probably be shooting a higher ratio of rimfire-to-centerfire than I usually do.

I've also recently acquired two new .22 handguns that are really enjoyable for me to shoot, and want to fire them some more. One is a revolver (and a single-action one at that), so it will run cheap stuff, and take longer to do so.

But, my Ruger/Tapco 1022 will go through my more-expensive MiniMags a lot faster, as will my other rimfire handguns.
I pretty much agree with this. I have been acquiring, and don't really have to shoot less, though the RATE of replenishment has decreased... But, as to the poll, I would say that the shortage of 22LR is the most ANNOYING because I shoot more of it than other rounds, and because it is probably the most common round for plinking, and introducing new shooters, and running in the 22LR understudies to the full-size firearms, and just for being all-around versatile. Probably impacts more people than any other. I've seen folks not be able to take their children to the range with a box of 22LR, or not be able to introduce a new shooter with 22LR, etc, etc. That kind of impact ANNOYS me a lot.

RFMan
February 27, 2013, 10:38 AM
None. Anyone who wasn't prepared before all this went down should take their crystal ball in for service. The writing has been on the wall since election season '08.
For themselves, yes, totally agree. But seeing the impact on new and young shooters is really sad. Now is a bad time to be coming of age and/or getting into shooting.

mavracer
February 27, 2013, 10:45 AM
I agree RFMan I feel sorry for new shooters. I'm pretty good for ammo I would like to have some more 5.56 green tip but I'm not sweating it.

jr_roosa
February 27, 2013, 10:50 AM
Down to 1000 .22 LR, and with 60-90 rounds per week at bullseye league and another 100/month for the 2700 match, they better start putting out more soon.

It doesn't help that my high standard only likes federal 711b.

J.

JayMust
February 27, 2013, 10:52 AM
.22 lr, the one my family shoots the most of and no one I know reloads it.

dirtykid
February 27, 2013, 11:00 AM
Not necessarily angst, more annoyance than anything
I have always maintained a large inventory of all calibers I own, and then would rotate-stock and replenish as I shoot them, so lately I have been stuck shooting alot of .45 and
burning thru alot of .243 which I can easily reload, But I have a couple .22's that I like to plink with a couple times a week, and there is nothing on the shelf to replenish those with, and I'll be dammed if Im gonna pay $20 for a box of 100 rimfires,
So my vote would be for 22LR I guess

Pacsd
February 27, 2013, 11:12 AM
During the summer of '08 I thought of the consecquences of this Marxist/socialist being elected. Just so happened to see a weekly special sandwhich board sign outside of my favorite mom & pop sport shoppe advertising a .22lr sale. I went in and found they were offering the 400 count American Eagle 22lr for 9.00. I'll not say how many K of them I bought but, I didn't clean em out. As few days passed I found the Federal 525 count bulk pac for 14.00 and again pick up several K. This is when I stocked up on all my reloading components that should last my life time.
As I used them up I replaced them so my inventory has not diminished. Early to late this August I saw my .22 mag numbers kinda getting low so I picked a few K of them here and there as well.
Sure enough, Sandy Hook took place and the shelves went bare. I'm not thumbing my nose but, I'm set.

rdhood
February 27, 2013, 11:40 AM
22LR. I reload for most everything else, but (typically) picked up a little 22LR on a regular basis to hold my total round count of 22LR at 2000-3000. I have been shooting without replacement for the better part of two months, and can see a time in the further out future where my supply will run out.

In the future, I plan on stocking in enough for at least 2 years for ALL calibers that I shoot.

Ryanxia
February 27, 2013, 12:35 PM
9MM for me (never can shoot my AR's anyways)
after that it would be 7.62x39, 5.56, & .22LR although the 22's are coming in pretty good here.

HoosierQ
February 27, 2013, 12:41 PM
I am not having an easy time finding .243!

bannockburn
February 27, 2013, 12:49 PM
I would have to go with E) None of the above. I am still in very good shape in terms of my ammunition supply having stocked up on everything I needed long before the first ammo shortage crisis several years ago. In these uncertain times, first and foremost, be prepared.

breakingcontact
February 27, 2013, 03:20 PM
9mm

trapper1
February 27, 2013, 03:31 PM
I'm pretty well set for years, in everything I shoot. Almost tempted to offload some .22 LR with the going rates. :)

TennJed
February 27, 2013, 03:39 PM
22lr. I reload for everything else and am pretty well stocked. (actually I am ok right now on 22, but might not be in 6 months)

jakk280rem
February 27, 2013, 03:53 PM
I am a bit low on 38. I don't really shoot much 38, but I'm down to 100 or so. I had been using Speer 158gr LSWC but ran out. I need to work up a load for the bullets I have as a replacement. And I have plenty of 5.56, but am low on coyote and match ammo in 223.

Tob
February 27, 2013, 04:56 PM
Although I am pretty well stocked on everything, I'd still like to have more. But at these prices, that won't happen. What I'd really like to have is more primers.

P5 Guy
February 27, 2013, 06:56 PM
Because that and 22LR are the two I do not (cannot) handload.
:cuss:

Ms_Dragon
February 27, 2013, 07:10 PM
I guess I get a little bemused when I read about people moaning about the price of ammunition and then quote the prices they are forced to pay.

I look a that sort of price and all I think is "Gee, I wish ammo was that cheap here!"

I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

http://cleaverfirearms.com/projectiles.htm
The ammunition listed here are on "SALE".

http://cleaverfirearms.com/Projectiles_Federal.htm
All the prices for ammunition on this page is for boxes of 20 rounds unless otherwise stated!!

It's a bit of an eye opener.

MacTech
February 27, 2013, 07:15 PM
For themselves, yes, totally agree. But seeing the impact on new and young shooters is really sad. Now is a bad time to be coming of age and/or getting into shooting.
Agreed, it's really sad seeing my nephew cutting back on his shooting, he's 11 now, and has been an avid shooter since he was 8, i described the previous ammo shortage to him and he was skeptical, no way could it have been that bad.....

....now he knows, I wasn't lying, and this shortage is worse.....

however, even out of the bad times comes good, he now sees the importance of having a decent stash (he always wondered why I was so frugal with my ammo stash, wanting to shoot as much as possible every range session), and has started his own stash, back when he could buy .22 ammo, he would buy two boxes, shoot one, store one, sadly, the shortage hit just after he started his S-O-S-O strategy

He has also learned the importance of a backup plan, pellets and BB's are still widely available and trigger time is trigger time no matter what's being shot, his Red Ryder may not be as accurate as his Ithaca 49, or my Stevens 414 Short he covets, but it's better than not shooting

He also learned the importance of being able to load your own, I've taught him how to load for my .30-06, my .44-40, 20 gauge and his own 28 gauge, we were able to set him up with his own MEC Jr 28G press, a brick of Winchester 209's, wads, propellant and a bag of #8 lead shot for Christmas.....

doc2rn
February 27, 2013, 10:56 PM
I got one bulk pack of 500 Winchester the other day for $32! I get to go shooting next weekend! Yeah!

oneounceload
February 27, 2013, 11:02 PM
I voted "other", because I shoot more clay targets than anything else....I need SHOT

NHCraigT
February 27, 2013, 11:09 PM
Shaggy403: None. Anyone who wasn't prepared before all this went down should take their crystal ball in for service. The writing has been on the wall since election season '08.

Same Here = Not experiencing any caliber angst (so I couldn't vote) ..... and I also have my own shooting range (backyard range).

:)

Elm Creek Smith
February 27, 2013, 11:27 PM
I cannot find any .38 SPL practice ammunition. There is some 125 gr Gold Dot +P at Sports World in Tulsa, but I'm not plinking at $1.25 a round. I have not seen any .357 Mag of any sort. I have enough of both for qualification training this year without reloading, but I won't have any to train any one else.

Gonna have to reload a bunch of LSWC to train some friends of my daughters and my grandkids.

ECS

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Indifferent
February 27, 2013, 11:53 PM
I can't find 12 gauge rounds anywhere since the whole buy a double barrel shotgun joke that Biden pulled...

CornCod
February 28, 2013, 12:00 AM
I wasn't caught completely flat footed, but I would have felt better having at least a thousand more rounds of .22LR. The only item in my area that is relatively plentiful is shotgun shells so I have been buying them.

CZguy
February 28, 2013, 12:02 AM
I can't find 12 gauge rounds anywhere since the whole buy a double barrel shotgun joke that Biden pulled...

Good one. You had me going there at first. :D

Sgt_R
February 28, 2013, 12:03 AM
.22lr

I have plenty of plinking ammo, but I am trying to break in a new "precision" rifle, and match grade stuff seems to be out of stock everywhere. It is highly annoying.

R

commygun
February 28, 2013, 12:04 AM
.223. I want buckets of.223.

Ky Larry
February 28, 2013, 12:48 AM
I'm in pretty good shape for everything except I need a few pounds of IMR-4064.

Ignition Override
February 28, 2013, 01:27 AM
shaggy430:

Along with many others, we both saw "the handwriting on the wall".

Under the other ammo topic, "Ammo shortage easing or not?", where I expressed bafflement that human nature is so resistant to many hints (elections in '08, '12) until it overreacts like a herd, far too late, provoked a reaction from somebody that I must have voted for Obama, twice.

That reaction was really bizarre.

Texan Scott
February 28, 2013, 03:34 AM
I'm actually considering selling a gun or two, putting off acquisition of my first 1911, and replacing everything that goes with a comparably sized 357 revolver or lever gun.

It would greatly reduce the number of calibers I have to run around looking for, and as much as I'd REALLY like a wider variety of toys, it would make the core of my collection a set of firearms of types my wife is already familiar and comfortable with.

Then, all I have to do is set about maintaining a good stockpile... say 200 serious 357s and 500 target load 38s, as baseline. I don't EVER want to feel caught naked and flat footed like this again, running around in desperate search of five different calibers....

Inebriated
February 28, 2013, 04:02 AM
.22LR shortage is aggravating me to no end.

I've got several thousand rounds, but I don't want to shoot it... I know how fast I go through .22LR.

I've actually had better luck buying a hundred or so rounds of 9mm and .45 at the range (they've got a good amount of "range-use only" ammo), shooting some, and bringing the rest back. I've actually increased my 9mm and .45 stock that way.

postalnut25
February 28, 2013, 04:30 AM
Personally, I'm fine.

My caliber angst has to do with work. I work for a smaller police department. There are no "special contracts" to get ammo. We have to buy it the same as everybody else, from the same places, except the department doesn't have to pay tax on it.

Our stocks of 9mm duty ammuntion were getting low, and no replacements could be found. We had to switch the 9mm over to a completely different round that we could get an adequate supply of.

Shifty
February 28, 2013, 05:31 AM
6.8spc for me. Although in the beginning of the madness i was able to score quite a bit even after 5.56 was gone.

Big_E
February 28, 2013, 05:39 AM
Definitely .22LR. Followed by 9x19.

When the panic struck again I said, "Fine, I'll just shoot my .22's for the time being." What ticks me off the most about it is I don't understand why it's gone. Not like .22's are the target of bans.

9mm was the second cheapest I shot and it sucks because I love shooting me CZ-75. I would place .223 third, but since I rarely shot my AR due to cost and the fact I have enough sitting around to defend myself in a bad scenario I am kinda meh about it.

Reloadron
February 28, 2013, 05:54 AM
Not a vote for none. Can't participate.
Ditto

Ron

flip888
February 28, 2013, 06:23 AM
I never realized how popular 22lr was. I have about 6000rnds of 22lr that I just never got around to using. My want is 7.62x39. Its my favorite round and I cant find it anywhere for a reasonable price. I cant wait for this ammo crisis to come to an end. All i can find is .270, .243, and 30-06.

guyfromohio
February 28, 2013, 06:35 AM
I shall weather this storm.

Jason_W
February 28, 2013, 06:58 AM
I just bought a rifle in .308 last April so the shortage of that round plus all .30 bullets for reloading is a pain. I was not in a financial position to stock up on .308 ammo and components.

At some point, the hoarders are going to run out of money and/or storage space, though. However, prices may always remain inflated now that manufacturers and dealers know what people are seemingly willing and able to spend. That's capitalism, I suppose.

huntsman
February 28, 2013, 10:28 AM
Lots of cartridges are hard to find at reasonable prices.

Personally, it is the scarcity of low recoil 12 gauge 00 Buckshot that impacts me the most.

I enjoy setting up 3 targets at 15 feet and practicing for both accuracy and quick follow-up with a 12 gauge riot gun.
The scarcity of cash is what bothers me most

I buy Hornady buckshot in 5lb boxes and roll my own.

mdauben
February 28, 2013, 12:33 PM
For me it's definitely the scarcity of .22LR ammo. I generally shoot more rimfire than I do all my centerfire rifles and handguns put together. I use it for general target practice, plinking, and general shooting and I really miss cheap and easily available ammo in that caliber.

If and when price and availability get back to normal ill definitely be keeping more .22 in stock.

CZguy
February 28, 2013, 12:40 PM
This latest round of panic buying hasn't affected me at all.

I was prepared for it, as I'm sure most of you will be in the future.

Birdhunter1
February 28, 2013, 01:09 PM
In response to the guy who asked how I have my own range and live in Illinois......
Easy.... I own the ground and either my dad or uncle own on all sides of me and I border USFS ground. I have several large berms I have built and often fire into hills if I don't have a berm or target box. It is not a public range and is not a private range with members, simply put it is mine and I built my house and shop with my number one hobby in mind. I have a few buddies including leo's out here often and some have helped build the place.

Pacsd
February 28, 2013, 01:28 PM
I was running alittle low in .22 mag but was lucky enough to snag eight 50 count boxes of CCI Maxi Mags @ 12.00 each (tax free) in our BX.

GCBurner
February 28, 2013, 03:40 PM
I can reload all of those, except .22 rimfire.

razorback2003
February 28, 2013, 03:57 PM
I mainly shoot rimfire. I have about 1500 rounds of 22 LR on hand and that is it.

I guess it is good I have a bow and arrow to shoot!

phoglund
February 28, 2013, 04:13 PM
I was pretty much prepared for the last shortage and have more ammo on hand for this shortage as well. The problem is psychological. Sure, I have nearly 9K rounds of centerfire rifle ammo in my four major calibers, a thousand in the others, 5K rounds of centerfire pistol/revolver ammo and maybe 7K rounds of .22...but if I start shooting that stuff...when will I be able to replace it? Same thing happened last time. I had the ammo to go shooting but I didn't want to shoot what I couldn't replace!

The Lone Haranguer
February 28, 2013, 04:19 PM
9mm Luger target/range. I would not only like to go shooting without using my remaining $$$ hollowpoints, but would like to qualify for my HCP.

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/ddd/19c/6a1/resized/at_the_gun_show-meme-generator-get-a-9mm-they-said-you-can-always-find-9mm-they-said-fc897c.jpg?1359766232.jpg

gulogulo1970
February 28, 2013, 06:51 PM
22LR, especially since it will be the currency in the post apocalyptic world.

Joking.

1KPerDay
February 28, 2013, 07:25 PM
.500 Nitro Express is not as plentiful as it usually is... the elephants are getting cocky.

Ms_Dragon
February 28, 2013, 07:38 PM
@1KPerDay: No doubt your shoulders and your ear drums are thankful! yep those cocky elephants. You know they've been up to no good when all your peanuts suddenly go missing!

The Lone Haranguer
February 28, 2013, 11:44 PM
I had occasion to go to a Wal-Mart (Elizabethton) and just for ____ and giggles stopped in at the sporting goods section. There was no handgun ammo of any caliber.

bushmaster1313
March 4, 2013, 09:15 PM
I am surprised the /22 LR got so many votes.

My local Dicks in Central New Jersey has none.

herkyguy
March 4, 2013, 09:18 PM
I didn't pick 22LR solely because I have enough to shoot moderately for some time. I would like to see more .223 because i am down to about 300 rounds and a 30 round magazine is just too easy to go through before i even know what happened.

egg250
March 4, 2013, 09:19 PM
All of it.

Baron_Null
March 5, 2013, 01:40 AM
For themselves, yes, totally agree. But seeing the impact on new and young shooters is really sad. Now is a bad time to be coming of age and/or getting into shooting.

Thank you for recognizing that. I start seeing red every time I hear "If you didn't stock up on ammo it's your own fault."

I'm sorry, but I did "read the writing on the wall" as soon as I started getting politically active and understood Obama's anti-2A beliefs. However, I was only around 14 when he got elected the first time, and I couldn't do anything about wanting to stock up except try and convince my parents. Considering my father has a stockpile of all of 50 rounds of .38spc, I guess I was kind of successful.

But now that I've come of age to actually start purchasing on my own, I have started stockpiling as much as I could while still trying to get some time behind the trigger. My funds are hardly unlimited, though, so I couldn't make a cache of thousands upon thousands of rounds as soon as I turned 18.

I was planning on getting a press early in December, but I was convinced to wait until Christmas to see if I would get one. Not wanting to jump the gun, I wanted to wait to buy components until I knew I had the press. The rest, as they say, is history, and now I have a single stage sitting in a box in the closet.

I did what I could, and now am being jeered at by those who have actually had the time and money to stock up because I "wasn't wise enough to see what was about to happen."

Yes, I saw the warnings, yes, I tried to do what I could, but I'm still low on ammo and without components, and telling me that it's my fault for not stocking up isn't helping anyone.

CZguy
March 5, 2013, 02:25 AM
Yes, I saw the warnings, yes, I tried to do what I could, but I'm still low on ammo and without components, and telling me that it's my fault for not stocking up isn't helping anyone.

Hey, it's not all doom and gloom. You'll inherit you're father's stockpile someday. :D

cleardiddion
March 5, 2013, 03:45 AM
.45 acp.

I got one middle of last year and I'd love to take it out for a spin more often but when I went to check for ammo at the store today they literally only had one box of .357 sig on the shelf...

hoji
March 5, 2013, 06:46 AM
Thank you for recognizing that. I start seeing red every time I hear "If you didn't stock up on ammo it's your own fault."

I'm sorry, but I did "read the writing on the wall" as soon as I started getting politically active and understood Obama's anti-2A beliefs. However, I was only around 14 when he got elected the first time, and I couldn't do anything about wanting to stock up except try and convince my parents. Considering my father has a stockpile of all of 50 rounds of .38spc, I guess I was kind of successful.

But now that I've come of age to actually start purchasing on my own, I have started stockpiling as much as I could while still trying to get some time behind the trigger. My funds are hardly unlimited, though, so I couldn't make a cache of thousands upon thousands of rounds as soon as I turned 18.

I was planning on getting a press early in December, but I was convinced to wait until Christmas to see if I would get one. Not wanting to jump the gun, I wanted to wait to buy components until I knew I had the press. The rest, as they say, is history, and now I have a single stage sitting in a box in the closet.

I did what I could, and now am being jeered at by those who have actually had the time and money to stock up because I "wasn't wise enough to see what was about to happen."

Yes, I saw the warnings, yes, I tried to do what I could, but I'm still low on ammo and without components, and telling me that it's my fault for not stocking up isn't helping anyone.
You are an exception to the rule. The vast majority just did not prepare.

Baron_Null
March 5, 2013, 07:02 AM
You are an exception to the rule. The vast majority just did not prepare.

And I understand that completely. I'm just tired of people lumping me and people like me under the same umbrella of "too foolish to prepare".

Hey, it's not all doom and gloom. You'll inherit you're father's stockpile someday. :D

And on that day I will be able to rest comfortably on my single range session's worth of .38 Special, with my mind at ease, knowing that I am set for life. :)

xfyrfiter
March 5, 2013, 01:05 PM
I shoot mostly rimfire, I have also started shooting my CZ and Marlin bolt guns a lot more than the 10/22's. Makes the limited supply go farther, also shooting air rifle more. We will weather this shortage, and as soon as most people reach their limits on their cc some of the buying will slow down. BTW I voted 22 I have some but it is a finite supply.

Numeric
March 5, 2013, 01:11 PM
Boy, I can't wait for the next round of 7.9x57mm surplus to come in...

Annny day now...

:uhoh:

jonnyc
March 5, 2013, 10:22 PM
Not sure if this is posted above, but I can't find any 12ga. target ammo for trap!

tarosean
March 5, 2013, 10:28 PM
45acp. I've been shooting the heck out of one of Christmas presents now I'm down to about 500rds and not sure I want to continue.....

Twiki357
March 5, 2013, 11:28 PM
"Which Cartridge Shortage Is Causing You the Most Angst?"
Not on your list of options, but...That would have to be 44 magnum, ammo and brass. I've got 1,000+ of everything else.

bushmaster1313
March 6, 2013, 12:30 AM
Not sure if this is posted above, but I can't find any 12ga. target ammo for trap!

I have seen plenty posted online

bldsmith
March 6, 2013, 02:35 AM
non of em. Have plenty of them all.

DNS
March 6, 2013, 03:30 AM
None here either.
I've taken a step back and worked on accessories, knives, airguns, etc.
I honestly expect this ammo issue to continue until the next election.

CapnMac
March 6, 2013, 03:39 AM
Well, my problematic caliber is .30 carbine; followed by .380--but, that's a problem that has been going on for about three years' now in .30carbine

mdauben
March 6, 2013, 01:22 PM
You are an exception to the rule. The vast majority just did not prepare.

Which does not change the fact that the endlessly repetative refrain of "you should have prepared better" and "its your own fault" whenever the subject of personal ammo shortages is brought up is both annoying and unhelpful. :banghead:

sonick808
March 6, 2013, 02:07 PM
I am so annoyed by the .22LR situation. no plinking here >:(

GCBurner
March 6, 2013, 02:15 PM
I was able to use some of my .22LR stash to supply the Boy Scouts for a marksmanship training weekend this month.

Reloadron
March 6, 2013, 07:23 PM
"Which Cartridge Shortage Is Causing You the Most Angst?"
Not on your list of options, but...That would have to be 44 magnum, ammo and brass. I've got 1,000+ of everything else.
Starline Brass (https://www.starlinebrass.com/order-online/all-cases.cfm) is showing .44 Mag as Back Order OK and expected delivery Available: 03/08/2013. Since they are still allowing back order you have nothing to lose if it pans out.

Worst case if you can use like a hundred mixed cases let me know. I shoot a lot of .44 Mag and have a small mountain of the brass. I could clean some next week and send them to you. Just busy this week and weekend.

Ron

CZguy
March 7, 2013, 12:45 AM
Which does not change the fact that the endlessly repetative refrain of "you should have prepared better" and "its your own fault" whenever the subject of personal ammo shortages is brought up is both annoying and unhelpful.

I'm curious. How would you like it phrased, so that you feel better?

You see I'm a big fan of personal responsibility. But if I can work with you on this I will.

Reloadron
March 7, 2013, 06:18 AM
Which does not change the fact that the endlessly repetitive refrain of "you should have prepared better" and "its your own fault" whenever the subject of personal ammo shortages is brought up is both annoying and unhelpful.

I'm curious. How would you like it phrased, so that you feel better?

You see I'm a big fan of personal responsibility. But if I can work with you on this I will.

While I agree strongly as to personal responsibility I also feel that personal responsibility extends well beyond having a large stash of ammunition for when things like this happen.

Many new and young shooters were simply blindsided by recent events. Compound that with the fact that many new shooters do not have the financial resources to stockpile ammunition in several flavors. Many of these new shooters are starting out with families or paying tuition for higher education. Personal responsibilities include setting priorities. Things like rent or mortgage as well as food on the table take priority over stockpiling ammunition for a hobby.

I am a 63 year old electrical engineer soon to be retired. My wife manages a small TV station. My kids are grown with kids of their own. We own the house and our trucks and have been debt free for years. That makes it pretty easy for me to buy what I want when I want it. Thanksgiving day morning I read where Gander Mountain was having a one day sale on Federal .223 at $299 for a 1,000 round case so I drove the ten min ride and snagged a few cans. There was a time in my life when popping $600 on ammunition a month before Christmas was out of the question. Not everyone, including my own kids, enjoys that luxury. For many new shooters popping an extra $25 for a brick of .22s is a seldom enjoyed luxury. For many the decision involves a new box or ammunition or a new box of Pampers. Pampers or a needed text book often win out in a decision made responsibly. :)

For me to drag out my little soap box and preach to the masses they should have been better prepared is senseless. I have much more respect for the new shooter living within his limits and addressing their personal responsibilities than the shooter shortchanging his family to buy ammunition or a new gun.

This concludes my little rant on the subject....
Ron

788Ham
March 7, 2013, 01:49 PM
I agree whole heartedly with you Mactech, in regards to a "stash". I've always has a couple of .22's around, rifle and handgun, or 2 rifles. I've always had a couple of extra bricks around, "just in case". I moved some things around in my reload area, cleaned up actually, re-organized many things, to my surprise , I have 7K of .22's. I'm not a hoarder, just accumulated them over time, remember the Winchester Xpediters? I have 2 bricks of those! My point here, I used to shoot .22's by the brick, but replenished them whenever I saw them on sale again, usually around $6 a brick. I've got plenty, but will keep looking, might need them for barter in the future.

CZguy
March 7, 2013, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Reloadron

While I agree strongly as to personal responsibility I also feel that personal responsibility extends well beyond having a large stash of ammunition for when things like this happen.

Many new and young shooters were simply blindsided by recent events. Compound that with the fact that many new shooters do not have the financial resources to stockpile ammunition in several flavors. Many of these new shooters are starting out with families or paying tuition for higher education. Personal responsibilities include setting priorities. Things like rent or mortgage as well as food on the table take priority over stockpiling ammunition for a hobby.

I am a 63 year old electrical engineer soon to be retired. My wife manages a small TV station. My kids are grown with kids of their own. We own the house and our trucks and have been debt free for years. That makes it pretty easy for me to buy what I want when I want it. Thanksgiving day morning I read where Gander Mountain was having a one day sale on Federal .223 at $299 for a 1,000 round case so I drove the ten min ride and snagged a few cans. There was a time in my life when popping $600 on ammunition a month before Christmas was out of the question. Not everyone, including my own kids, enjoys that luxury. For many new shooters popping an extra $25 for a brick of .22s is a seldom enjoyed luxury. For many the decision involves a new box or ammunition or a new box of Pampers. Pampers or a needed text book often win out in a decision made responsibly.

For me to drag out my little soap box and preach to the masses they should have been better prepared is senseless. I have much more respect for the new shooter living within his limits and addressing their personal responsibilities than the shooter shortchanging his family to buy ammunition or a new gun.

This concludes my little rant on the subject....

You made several good points. I too am older and have the resources to accumulate ammo. I certainly agree that putting food on the table, or taking care of debts is more important than buying ammo.

It is my opinion though, that many people who are struggling financially, are not living as frugally as I did at that age. Heck if you just ate at home rather than eating out a couple of times you could afford a brick of .22 shells. And as to the teenage shooters, I hope they are shooting with a older person who can provide the shells as well as instruction.

I shoot with two Grandsons, and a Nephew, and am happy to provide all the .22 shells that they care to shoot.

breakingcontact
March 8, 2013, 12:38 PM
I've got a few more range trips before this ammo shortage begins to concern me. Then ill have to decide between paying 50 cents a round for decent 9mm or getting a different gun. Suppose it'd be about the same cost. I'd probably just get a M&P 22.

provoartkaa
March 8, 2013, 02:15 PM
only have 450 rounds of 50 BMG left :o

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