First load question.


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mrpoop
March 1, 2013, 03:46 PM
Ok, so I just loaded my first batch of 9mm last week and didn't have any issues at the range. This is my load data, 125g lead cast RN, with 4.1g of power pistol using winchester primers. There was a bit of smoke when I fired, but I read that its just the lube on the bullet. Does anyone recommend a load with the above components? This is all I was able to get during this crazy time of price gouging and high demand. Any advice would be helpful.

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mljdeckard
March 1, 2013, 03:51 PM
The Alliant web site says 6.4, minus 10% for lead bullets is 5.76. Where did you get 4.1? If it works, and your gun cycles, it's probably ok, but it seems a bit low.

rcmodel
March 1, 2013, 03:51 PM
Seems like an awful light load.

Lyman #49 says 5.0 is a starting load of Power Pistol with a 120-125 grian LRN.

4.1 is a starting load with a 147 grain RNFP.

rc

mrpoop
March 1, 2013, 03:56 PM
I got the data just searching the web, I don't have a reloading book yet, I don't want to buy one that only has their bullet loads only.
Ill try 5.0g this weekend and see how that does.

rcmodel
March 1, 2013, 03:58 PM
I don't have a reloading book yetOh!
Well, you are certainly off to a good start then! :banghead:

Buy a Lyman #49 manual for $20 bucks before you shoot your eye out.

rc

mljdeckard
March 1, 2013, 04:02 PM
I gotta agree. COMPLETELY. I'm a rookie, I have had no other help than youtube and this forum, you need a manual (or THREE), and you need to read them. This is exactly how boom-booms happen.

You can even go to amazon and look for used ones.

mrpoop
March 1, 2013, 04:04 PM
Oh!
Well, you are certainly off to a good start then! :banghead:

Buy a Lyman #49 manual for $20 bucks before you shoot your eye out.

rc
Thanks, Ill pick one up. I do appreciate you taking the time to look in your book for me!

bds
March 1, 2013, 04:07 PM
Ill try 5.0g this weekend and see how that does.
I would suggest you conduct a full powder work up to determine the accuracy trend.

As rcmodel posted, Lyman #49 lists for Power Pistol:
120 gr lead RN 1.065" OAL Start 5.0 gr (1107 fps) 27,700 CUP - Max 5.6 gr (1190 fps) 31,500 CUP
I would load 10 rounds of each at 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.4 and 5.5 gr and see what the accuracy trend is. Of course, if you run into any issues or have concerns as you approach the max charge, you can always stop the testing and pull the remaining rounds.

Certaindeaf
March 1, 2013, 04:19 PM
Look at the bright side, it coulda been worse. And "everybody poops" (good children book), Mr.! lolz

You can do better than that and don't play around.

mrpoop
March 1, 2013, 04:25 PM
I gotta agree. COMPLETELY. I'm a rookie, I have had no other help than youtube and this forum, you need a manual (or THREE), and you need to read them. This is exactly how boom-booms happen.

You can even go to amazon and look for used ones.
I've done the youtube and searched the web,that why I stated with 4.1g so I would go boom boom.

matrem
March 1, 2013, 04:39 PM
A manual or three is mandatory. Sites such as this one are beneficial to "hone" what you've learned from them.
You do know there are good boom booms , as well as bad boom booms?

rcmodel
March 1, 2013, 04:45 PM
Just so you know.

Sometimes starting below a recommended Starting load is just as bad as starting too high too!

They are recommended Starting loads for a reason.

You started with a forgiving powder & a forgiving lead bullet.
Next time might no go so well with a different combination.

rc

Jesse Heywood
March 1, 2013, 05:05 PM
I got the data just searching the web

That can also be a big mistake. We only recommend using data from the web if it comes from a manufacturer's website. Like anywhere else on the web, there are a lot of people who are experts in their own mind. Also you will find many who "experiment" with loads that are dangerous.

The Lyman manual not only has load data, but the first half is filled with information on reloading. Our recommendation is to read the manual before you start, and keep it handy as a reference. Also there is a sticky thread at the top of the forum Reloading Library of Wisdom which has a lot of good information.

Good luck in your new hobby!

mrpoop
March 1, 2013, 05:09 PM
Thanks

BYJO4
March 1, 2013, 06:58 PM
As others have said, loading manuals are a must. I use the Lyman manual more than any but still have 3 others for cross reference if needed.

mrpoop
March 1, 2013, 09:05 PM
Just picked up a Lyman 48th edition.

splattergun
March 1, 2013, 10:06 PM
Just picked up a Lyman 48th edition.
Excellent! Study well. Also go to the library and read whatever other manuals you can find. Another great resource is ABCs of Reloading. Older editions are available free for download all over the net.

Bullet and loading equipment companies generally sell their manuals, but they are great sources of knowledge. Naturally, they prefer their own products!

Powder manufacturers have loading manuals available free on their web sites, thus ;
http://www.alliantpowder.com/default.aspx

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