Criminals don't buy guns, they steal them from the cops


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ID-shooting
March 2, 2013, 08:53 AM
M16 left unattended over night and stolen from trooper's car...

http://www.ktvb.com/news/crime/Rifle-stolen-from-Oregon-State-Patrol-troopers-patrol-car--194419661.html

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Creature
March 2, 2013, 09:00 AM
took a Colt M16A1 semi-automatic rifle.

Hmmm.... "Colt M16A1 semi-automatic". Not sure what they mean. The M16A1 is capable of full-auto. The rifle was probably just an AR15.

Fast Frank
March 2, 2013, 09:01 AM
Seems pretty irresponsible to me.

I won't leave my cell phone in the car because I know for a fact that the people on the street will break the glass to get it.

A colt? Yeah...

But I guess a cop wouldn't have any reason to know that.:confused:

egg250
March 2, 2013, 09:09 AM
Hmm...a M-16A1 did have full auto capability. It is possible the police department installed a semi-auto only fire control group. Or...hmm...is it possible the reporter word-smithed the article to give the impression that the police department only has semi-auto guns while civilians are able to purchase "fully automatic, military grade AR-15s".

Hmm....I seem to think the M16-A1 is a military designation for a rifle...unlike the AR-15...

Ryanxia
March 2, 2013, 10:16 AM
What was a peace officer doing with a weapon of war to begin with? :)

somerandomguy
March 2, 2013, 10:32 AM
What was a peace officer doing with a weapon of war to begin with? :)
Yeah, why do they NEED an assault weapon anyways? I just don't understand why anyone needs those weapons that are capable of firing like billions of rounds of ammo in a minute. If only cops didn't have such high capacity clips. (lol)

-Piers Morgan.

gp911
March 2, 2013, 11:47 AM
It wasn't stolen, the shoulder thing went up and the assault rifle got loose. Stay tuned, massacre is forthcoming...

Flopsweat
March 2, 2013, 12:53 PM
Hmm...a M-16A1 did have full auto capability. It is possible the police department installed a semi-auto only fire control group. Or...hmm...is it possible the reporter word-smithed the article to give the impression that the police department only has semi-auto guns while civilians are able to purchase "fully automatic, military grade AR-15s".

Hmm....I seem to think the M16-A1 is a military designation for a rifle...unlike the AR-15...

Most likely the reporter had no clue what he/she was talking about, and/or was repeating a misstatement from the LEA's media liaison. Our local Sheriff's office has a PR Officer who knows jack about guns - does stuff like calling 9mm hollowpoints "armor piercing ammunition". And yet the Sheriff himself is pro 2A. Go figure.

316SS
March 2, 2013, 02:40 PM
Guys, cops should be able to have full-semi-auto AK16M1's because of all the extra training they receive. Luckily cops are also exempt from those safe storage laws too! [/SARCASM]

Thursday45
March 2, 2013, 02:42 PM
Incredible? does Oregon not have any laws about breaking into cars and stealing stuff out of them?!?! Oregon citizens need to get in touch with their law makers right away so that the law makers can put an end to this with their magical law preventing legislature.

Pretty standard procedure to keep shotgun and rifle in your patrol car in their locking bracket. I think the main thing to come away with from this is that, as we all know, criminals are going to get guns. Whether they need to be stolen from someone's home or a cop's patrol car.

pillage
March 2, 2013, 02:47 PM
I guess the officer is going to have to resort to the be all end all side by side 12 Gauge, ala Joe Biden now. Since we all know how hard it is to shoot an AR.:neener:

MedWheeler
March 2, 2013, 03:02 PM
I'm surprised this thread lasted long enough for someone (Thursday45) to bring up the real issue..

ChCx2744
March 2, 2013, 03:43 PM
Bump so the administrators can notice this. What point, exactly, is trying to be made here? Is there not supposed to be a concise topic of discussion?

Claude Clay
March 2, 2013, 03:52 PM
and if he cannot be trusted to hold onto a Mass Weapon OF War perhaps he shouldn't be in that profession. Fire him. Void his pension. make him pay to replace it at full market value.

meanwhile in CT: 7 cops in CT ( half the towns force) fired 41 rounds at a man holding a pellet gun ( still, from 50 feet it looks real) hitting him 13 times and killing him.

its death-by-cop almost for sure yet...to only have 13 out of 41 hit someone standing still at less than 50' bespeaks lousy gun handling by the police.

perhaps they needed a shotgun instead.

HorseSoldier
March 2, 2013, 04:46 PM
Hmmm.... "Colt M16A1 semi-automatic". Not sure what they mean. The M16A1 is capable of full-auto. The rifle was probably just an AR15.

I would not be so sure on that, though it is possible. LAPD's patrol rifle program after the North Hollywood bank robbery started with USGI surplus M16A1 rifles. If the trooper in question was on a part time SWAT team or if that agency's protocols are just a little wilder than the mainstream, it is entirely possible that it was a real deal M16A1.

ACP
March 2, 2013, 06:03 PM
The trooper and Oregon taxpayers are in for world of hurt if/when that rifle is used to harm somebody. My guess is the trooper did not follow protocol, hence, contributory negligence.

Creature
March 2, 2013, 06:50 PM
I would not be so sure on that, though it is possible. LAPD's patrol rifle program after the North Hollywood bank robbery started with USGI surplus M16A1 rifles. If the trooper in question was a part time SWAT team or if that agency's protocols are just a little wilder than the mainstream, it is entirely possible that it was a real deal M16A1.

The point I was making is that we cannot be sure because the report is vague and/or inaccurate.

Vern Humphrey
March 2, 2013, 07:13 PM
Criminals don't buy guns, the NYPD and ATF give them guns.

Walkalong
March 3, 2013, 11:25 AM
Just more proof that doing dumb things crosses all lines. We don't really do news stories, even when they happen to involve a gun.

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