Help me identify old reloading stuff


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jmace57
March 2, 2013, 10:34 PM
A friend recently gave me a box of old reloading stuff (and there was some blackpowder stuff mixed in). Some of this I can guess what it is, and some of it I have not a clue what it is. Can you guys help me identify what this stuff is, whether it is still usable for someone doing reloading, whether it has any value due to its' age? The person who owned it originally passed away more than 35 years ago, so it is at least that old. Over and above the reloading equipment, there are 250 rounds of fired 41 Long brass and 50 rounds of new, primed brass in a box (did not know they ever sold it that way). Many thanks all. If some of this isn't reloading related, forgive my iognorance.

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ReloaderFred
March 2, 2013, 10:44 PM
You have some good stuff there. You've got bullet molds, some rather desirable, scale weights, also desirable, some Lee powder dippers, wad cutting punch, some very desirable .41 Long Colt brass, bullet casting ladles, etc. Some of it is really old, especially the Winchester box of .38/55 wads for blackpowder loads.

Some has collector value, and some has useful value. You'll have to sort through it and if you don't want it, offer on the sales forum.

Hope this helps.

Fred

rcmodel
March 2, 2013, 10:53 PM
That is not just some old reloading stuff.

That is some old reloading stuff there some folks would die for, or at least pay a pretty penny for!!

The Lyman Keith #429421 Hollow point bullet molds in two different HP types for instance!

Or, I will give you $25 bucks for it all if you pay the shipping!

O.K., just joking!!

But I will, if you don't want to mess with selling it at auction and gain a few $100 bills!

rc

FROGO207
March 2, 2013, 11:07 PM
The picture with the green box is a powder trickler. The aluminum hinged tools are Lee primer inserting tools and the spare shell holders for them are the black threaded heads in the same picture as the scale weights in the wood holder. Those go with the Pacific scale in the next to last picture. The two brass cylinders are black powder flasks. The brass cylinder and spoon/cap in the picture with the punches are used to hold ffff black powder to charge a flash pan on a flint lock.

Joatmon
March 2, 2013, 11:18 PM
The metal object between the two Lyman orange boxes looks like a K spinner. They are used to chuck into a drill and the tapered portion is a spinning mandrel that you slide a case on and do the quick polish with a rag and some Flitz polish. Makes old crappy looking brass look like gold in a few seconds. There are several sizes for different calibers. Nice score on all the stuff!

45lcshooter
March 2, 2013, 11:22 PM
Everything looks use able. Lee Dippers, lead ladles, shotgun wads, powder trickler, case length caliper, priming tools, molds.

If you were looking to sell, the bullet molds would be your high ticket item. Lead ladles under 20 a piece, powder trickler about 20 bucks, calipers 10-15, old Lee hand primers 10-15, Lee dippers 10, shotgun wads good fire starter unless you find someone that reloads shotgun shells then I'd say have them buy you a adult beverage for them because they are not worth a whole lot.

The brass is a little more scarce, you will find some people looking for it, but not a lot. And those that are looking for it probably know its not going to be very cheap.

.22-5-40
March 2, 2013, 11:37 PM
Hello, jmace57. The other smaller mould alongside the hollow point 429421, is also a design by Elmer Keith..the 358431 hollow base. This was a 160gr. bullet as opposed to the original solid base of 170grs. Keith was after higher velocity in the then new .357 magnum with the lighter bullet.
Those Winchester C.B. wads and the handwritten instructions of charge weight and their use are EXTREEMLY interesting! Those old lead bullets alongside them were designed for the Colt 1860 army revolver of Civil War nad later fame...but they were also used in the very first Colt breechloading .44 Thuer conversons..as well as the still later 1st model Richards conversions of the early 1870's. This is the first I have heard of Winchester manufacturing lubricating wads for these guns. Neat stuff!

witchhunter
March 2, 2013, 11:45 PM
That is some cool old stuff there. I still use that caliper! Oh and the dippers were a necessity ( along with a hammer) with my first Lee hand loader! List his stuff on the sale forum and you will sell the molds and casting stuff easily. .41 long colt, hmmm.

jmace57
March 3, 2013, 01:19 AM
Thanks to you all for your input here. I honestly think there are quite a few MORE bullet moulds that my friend has. I will ask him tomorrow.

He has 175 of the bullet moulds that look sort of like a pair of pliers (sorry to show my ignorance here) - from Civil War round ball pistol ones, to minie ball moulds, to more modern calibers - and ones that make 6 at a time. These are all going into a auction later in the year.

But I think I remember that there might be some more of the "blocks" like these thrown into the box with these other moulds because we didn't know what to do with them.

All of this stuff I showed above is going to go up for sale as neither my friend nor I do any sort of reloading.

jmace57
March 3, 2013, 01:35 AM
The metal object between the two Lyman orange boxes looks like a K spinner. They are used to chuck into a drill and the tapered portion is a spinning mandrel that you slide a case on and do the quick polish with a rag and some Flitz polish. Makes old crappy looking brass look like gold in a few seconds. There are several sizes for different calibers. Nice score on all the stuff!
I should probably have done better pictures. It says on the side of the boxes that they are Hand Type Shell Resizers and there is one in .357/.38, one in .44 Special and one in .44 Magnum

280shooter
March 3, 2013, 01:56 AM
very cool stuff... most i know what they are,like the other have stated,you have a whole lot of history sitting there.Very nice,,

Sport45
March 3, 2013, 04:25 AM
Pop quiz!

What is the reading on the caliper as it sets in the picture? No fair using the metric scale and converting....

My reading of the inch scale was 0.005" off the metric conversion. :(

But I suppose that really isn't bad for reading 1/64 graduations.

jmace57
March 3, 2013, 09:20 AM
OK all - thre's more. I ran across these items that I forgot to photograph. In the first picture, the items are stamped from 00 to 22 - all are there. The second picture, the brass items are stamped 28 GRAINS GREEN WALDRODE (1 of them) and 38 GRAINS GREEN WALDRODE (3 of them). The next are boxes of punches? Still in original paper, still oily, 12 in each box. Then a Redding scale. Finally a lead ladle and bullet mould - the mould has 2 cavities - one for a round ball and one for a "shaped" bullt - looks to be maybe .36 - .38?

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c.latrans
March 3, 2013, 10:39 AM
If you decide to sell that stuff, listen to RC and get someone involved who knows what they are looking at. Potentially MANY dollars just in the few pics you posted, who knows with all of the old molds, etc...some of those blocks are quite desirable. Thanks for posting this stuff, brings back lots of memories from the old guys who taught me waaaay back when. Hope you will put more pics up!

FROGO207
March 3, 2013, 10:57 AM
Agreed with post above there are some things that are of collector value and worth the time to research for resale. All cool old things that were obviously made with care back then. I like the old brass measure set with the graduated numbers.The measure with the wooden handle looks like a shot measure for reloading shotshells.

witchhunter
March 3, 2013, 11:19 AM
Yes Frog, this came with Lee shotgun handloaders, it expands in graduations for shot. When Lee said hand loader they meant by hand! Mine was in the late 60's. My cousin told me that he found mine in the attic of our old house, can't wait to get it back so I can show my boys how we used to have to do it, one at a time. very cool old stuff.

lightman
March 3, 2013, 08:24 PM
I would like to have a chance at the brass dippers, if you decide to sell them. Lots of cool old stuff there! Lightman

jgh4445
March 3, 2013, 09:10 PM
Absolutely get someone knowledgeable to help you price this stuff. I'm drooling over the Keith hollow point .44 mold. Let us know when you're gonna put it up for sale.

jmace57
March 3, 2013, 10:22 PM
I will try to put this stuff up for sale soon. I want to see if there are more mould blocks before I do.

And because I keep finding more and more stuff in these boxes, I have no idea whether this item has anything to do with reloading, but I don't have a clue what it is. It almost looks like it has something to so with sighting?

Inside the tiney little can shown in the pic below is a tiny little label that says "inserts" and "Lyman"

The thing off to the loft looks like some trigger spring like thing. No idea if the box has anything to do with what was in it. Anybody know what this is?Again - thanks all.


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Sport45
March 3, 2013, 10:31 PM
The last one is not reloading related. It's a tang sight and a bunch of inserts for the front and rear sights. Good stuff!

Guy B. Meredith
March 4, 2013, 04:44 AM
Makes me itch to become a collector.

EMC45
March 4, 2013, 10:19 AM
I would have that tang sight appraised accordingly. Some of them fetch big money.

c1a1
March 4, 2013, 10:59 AM
Picture #7. The brass oiler, and applicator next to it are probably Lee-Enfield WW1 issue. The date should be marked on the bottom, 1914-1918. Worth $15-20.

Float Pilot
March 4, 2013, 03:45 PM
I have rifles that take those types of inserts....

This is a good post... BEING A COLLECTOR OF OLDER HAND-LOADING GEAR AND OLD RIFLES,,, YOU HAVE TAKEN CARE OF MY JOLLYS FOR THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO...

Now I need to take a cold shower....

jmace57
March 6, 2013, 06:39 PM
OK - found some more. There are 2 Lyman 310 tools - one looks almost new. Then there are additional dies. Then there are 3 reloading tools, marked 38s, 38L and 44 S&WR. I am guessing these are for 38 short, and long, and perhaps 44 Russian? Any thoughts about this stuff? Thanks all.

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Salmoneye
March 6, 2013, 07:23 PM
Someone just GAVE you all this stuff???

At the least you owe them dinner...

:banghead:

Joatmon
March 6, 2013, 08:55 PM
In post #19 those look like interchangealbe peep site apetures. The Lyman gun sight company and others like Williams used to sell lots of this kind of precision "open sight" hardware. For iron sight high power matches these are great. You choose the aperture based on distance, target Bull size, and light conditions. I have a set that works on a Williams sight on an 03A3 Springfield. Probably the most accurate rifle that I own.

Grassman
March 6, 2013, 09:21 PM
WOW! That is awesome stuff. You hit the motherlode.

JSmith
March 6, 2013, 09:45 PM
Wow. Nice haul. I like the Ohaus case gauge. That company made the workhorse triple-beam balances that were in my college chem labs, back in the 70s.

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