NASCAR renames race....NRA 500


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Rembrandt
March 4, 2013, 08:05 PM
The former Texas 500 NASCAR race is now being sponsored and renamed the NRA 500.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/hype-nra-500-bad-move-214336246.html

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xjsnake
March 4, 2013, 08:07 PM
I'm not a nascar fan but I like this change.

MErl
March 4, 2013, 08:21 PM
probably not the best use of NRA funds

jcwit
March 4, 2013, 08:38 PM
More than likely one of the best uses of funds by the NRA, bringing its name and message right to the forefront.

gfanikf
March 4, 2013, 09:22 PM
More than likely one of the best uses of funds by the NRA, bringing its name and message right to the forefront.
Yes because NASCAR and NRA don't overlap that much. ;)

Liberty1776
March 4, 2013, 09:23 PM
Yep! Cars are mainstream, and guns are mainstream...

zorro45
March 4, 2013, 09:26 PM
Why does anybody need more than one car?

I think I'll go to the range where it is quieter.

vamo
March 4, 2013, 09:40 PM
Seems like they're most likely preaching to the choir. Personally I can't think of anything more boring than NASCAR, but I grew up an hr from the Bristol VA race track and I have yet to meet a nascar fan that didn't also own guns.

gfanikf
March 4, 2013, 09:43 PM
Seems like they're most likely preaching to the choir. Personally I can't think of anything more boring than NASCAR, but I grew up an hr from the Bristol VA race track and I have yet to meet a nascar fan that didn't also own guns.
You're not alone. I tried watching it once, snooze city. I remember my dad was part of a focus group back in the late 90s before NASCAR made its big expansion and was just bored to tears. lol

ApacheCoTodd
March 4, 2013, 09:46 PM
Great - now maybe they can get more people to watch and demand better action outa those boring Gen-6 cars.

Imagine the angst amongst them given the assumption that we're all pick-up driving, flag waving, NASCAR watching "clingers" already.

Now then, how do we get NASCAR to authorize rifle racks in the back windows of the Craftsman Truck class racers?

General Geoff
March 4, 2013, 09:46 PM
NASCAR got boring shortly after the '71 season. Been on the decline since stock cars stopped being stock.

That said, NASCAR is extremely popular, so here's to hoping the publicity helps.

docnyt
March 4, 2013, 09:52 PM
Good for NRA. But I doubt this thread is going to remain open.

TarDevil
March 4, 2013, 10:00 PM
I dunno. I'd like to think my dues and donations were being used more directly for the fight at hand.

I concede I might be missing a bigger picture, but it might take a lot to convince me.

Rembrandt
March 4, 2013, 10:09 PM
A brilliant move that will stymie the anti-gun media....every time they report on the race they'll be promoting the NRA. That's gotta irritate them.

Sam1911
March 4, 2013, 10:10 PM
Making us MORE popular among the NASCAR fans? ... might be carrying coals to Newcastle there, what?

Not sure that goes miles to bring the NRA out of the "sticks" and into the mainstream.

Would be pretty cool to see the America's Cup sponsored by the NRA. Or the US Open Polo Championship. Or (LOL!) the Westminster Dog Show. Or (DOUBLE LOL!) the National Spelling Bee. :) Those would be a trifle less ... "mais bien sur."

I'd like to think that very few membership contributions were diverted into making this happen, but that's probably a vain hope.

Texan Scott
March 4, 2013, 10:10 PM
Great... are all my guns gonna start shooting to the left?

bikerdoc
March 4, 2013, 10:19 PM
Guys, a lot fans behind enemy line might just get motivated to become more politically active.

mbopp
March 4, 2013, 10:21 PM
D' ya think the Brady Bunch and Bloomberg will sponsor a race now?

Grassman
March 4, 2013, 10:22 PM
Track is right down the road from me, I might go now.

Kim
March 4, 2013, 10:22 PM
Piers Morgan is mad so it was worth every penny. Says it would be like letting tobacco companies do this. Says guns are bad for health like tobacco. HE IS SO STUPID!!!:cuss:

Sam1911
March 4, 2013, 10:26 PM
Piers Morgan is mad so it was worth every penny. Says it would be like letting tobacco companies do this. Holy cow that's funny! Pure awesome!

Yeah, can you just IMAGINE if they let a tobacco or alcohol company sponsor a NASCAR race? :eek: Why what if it was Busch or Winston!???!!111!!1!

:D That's rich! You gotta hand it to that Morgan guy, he's got a sense of humor!

jim243
March 4, 2013, 10:28 PM
start shooting to the left?

Only on the curves.

Jim

WardenWolf
March 4, 2013, 10:35 PM
It's a great move, particularly since the left wing media has been trying to remove everything that's pro-gun from the airwaves. Now they've got something they can't censor. The only BAD thing I can see, though, is the association with NASCAR and rednecks.

Ebbshot
March 4, 2013, 10:41 PM
Come on guys, you can't fault this. It's part of a comprehensive PR strategy. Rally the base, get fence-sitters curious. It's called taking the initiative. Make the media react to you. I bet half the guys who complain about their dues going to this instead of "the fight" have never even seen a real corporate budget and the value of marketing $$.

gfanikf
March 4, 2013, 10:43 PM
Making us MORE popular among the NASCAR fans? ... might be carrying coals to Newcastle there, what?

Not sure that goes miles to bring the NRA out of the "sticks" and into the mainstream.

Would be pretty cool to see the America's Cup sponsored by the NRA. Or the US Open Polo Championship. Or (LOL!) the Westminster Dog Show. Or (DOUBLE LOL!) the National Spelling Bee. :) Those would be a trifle less ... "mais bien sur."

I'd like to think that very few membership contributions were diverted into making this happen, but that's probably a vain hope.
That's my hope too. I mean...seriously sponsor John Milius giving history lessons while drunk with my money (actually they should do that), just something a little more expansive vs in the middle of the Venn Diagram. Hell if Wayne hasn't shot his mouth off I'd suggest consumer electronics...like video games...but no we had to burn that bridge.

scotch827
March 4, 2013, 10:58 PM
The NRA 500 in Texas!! Afterwards they should show Schindler's List to remind everyone what can happen to a society disarmed by its government and why the second Amendment has nothing to do with how many rounds I need to kill a deer.

Sam1911
March 4, 2013, 11:07 PM
Hell if Wayne hasn't shot his mouth off I'd suggest consumer electronics...like video games...but no we had to burn that bridge.Errr....I'm not sure I want the NRA sponsoring a video game. Several ways that could go:

1) Shooting Sports Games: and as any spectators of shooting competitions know, that's deadly dull to watch -- and if you ever played any of the video games that simulated shooting galleries, they were mind-blowingly boring as well. (EDIT: It is brought to my attention that NRA did in fact produce some of these and they have been, as expected, horrid failures.)

2) Hunting games. I'm sure there's a fun one...somewhere. And the 2nd Amendment is about hunting...

3) Lawful Self-Defense Encounters: Hooo boy. Who wants to play through 100 levels of De-Escalate and Avoid, or "Be the Bigger Man and De-fuse Conflict," to finally get to the level where you get to take ONE shot and then sit through trial, counseling, and then you're pilloried in the press, lose your job, and your're so stressed and broke that your wife leaves you? Hey, fun!

4) Shoot-em-up! Need I say more?

5) Armed resistance to tyrrany... :uhoh:


Yeah...I think I'm glad they're staying out of the video game industry.

303tom
March 4, 2013, 11:09 PM
It works for me...................Two of my favorite things. (Fast Car & Guns).............

cfullgraf
March 4, 2013, 11:10 PM
I think the NRA 500 is a good thing.

The NRA is painted these days as a minority. Having membership support to sponsor a race is an indication otherwise.

It gets NRA name out in the news with something other than tragedies.

General Geoff
March 4, 2013, 11:10 PM
5) Armed resistance to tyrrany...

Pretty sure there are already plenty of games with that angle... just none with the official endorsement of the NRA. It could work out really well, if it was a game about a real historical conflict like the American Revolution.

Sam1911
March 4, 2013, 11:16 PM
Pretty sure there are already plenty of games with that angle... just none with the official endorsement of the NRA. Right! And I think all would agree its best things stay that way. Its one thing to be an independent game studio writing a release that shows violence, rebellion, murder, mayhem, assassination, treason, etc., etc. -- and that's just fine so long as it doesn't MEAN anything.

A group like the NRA with a deadly serious raison d'etre that is not-so-loosely associated with the concept of armed resistance to government over-reach needs to stay very far away from anything that looks like a propaganda or training tool on how to kill government troops.

It could work out really well, if it was a game about a real historical conflict like the American Revolution.Now that could be pretty cool, though we could absolutely expect the more "with-it" of our opponents to decry it as a veiled call to revolt.

gfanikf
March 4, 2013, 11:17 PM
Errr....I'm not sure I want the NRA sponsoring a video game. Several ways that could go:

1) Shooting Sports Games: and as any spectators of shooting competitions know, that's deadly dull to watch -- and if you ever played any of the video games that simulated shooting galleries, they were mind-blowingly boring as well

2) Hunting games. I'm sure there's a fun one...somewhere. And the 2nd Amendment is about hunting...

3) Lawful Self-Defense Encounters: Hooo boy. Who wants to play through 100 levels of De-Escalate and Avoid, or "Be the Bigger Man and De-fuse Conflict," to finally get to the final level where you get to take ONE shot and then sit through trial, counseling, and then you're pilloried in the press, lose your job, and your're so stressed and broke that your wife leaves you? Hey, fun!

4) Shoot-em-up! Need I say more?

5) Armed resistance to tyrrany... :uhoh:


Yeah...I think I'm glad they're staying out of the video game industry.
Actually regarding 3 look up the SWAT series...for added fun watch the Spoony Let's Play of them...and parts of LA Noire regarding the last one. 4 is so vague it could run the gambit from Call of Duty to Deus Ex and 5 for that matter.

I mean with 1 and 2...duck hunt was cool. But yeah these days those games are generally pilloried as bad and dull, and honestly they are.

I mean more along the lines of sponsoring video game contest and sims, specifically military themed ones (I mean Larry Vickers did a deal with the last Medal of Honor game...which wasn't good, but its more the effort)...hell Assassins Creed 3 would have worked nicely, but my point was more outside the norm areas.

Still back to my original idea: John Milius teaches history....while intoxicated...who isn't up for that?

KDS
March 4, 2013, 11:29 PM
I think it's a good idea. I am sure many NASCAR fans are gun owners, but how many are NRA members? I see this as a membership drive and I don't mind at all.

Sergei Mosin
March 4, 2013, 11:36 PM
I think it's a good idea. I am sure many NASCAR fans are gun owners, but how many are NRA members? I see this as a membership drive and I don't mind at all.

I see what you did there. :D

NASCAR isn't just a rural Southern sport any more. Although NASCAR fans are stereotyped as gun-totin' rednecks, and some of us are, it's got a broader appeal than that now. It's gone mainstream. And NASCAR is an advertising machine. It provides a vehicle for reaching a nationwide television audience with your message. Done right, this can be a great relationship for both NASCAR and the NRA.

mljdeckard
March 4, 2013, 11:37 PM
.......I'll try to get my head around it.

cfullgraf
March 5, 2013, 12:56 AM
I wonder if the NRA would sponsor my Honda Civic in amateur road racing?

Well, I can dream.

ugaarguy
March 5, 2013, 01:16 AM
I like it. ESPN, which is part of ABC, had some blatantly anti gun comments after Newtown. ESPN is also big on NASCAR coverage since, as others have noted, NASCAR has mainstream appeal. I'm going to enjoy seeing how the MSM handles this. Let's also not forget that NASCAR paychecks have attracted international driving talents like Juan Pablo Montoya.

jbrown50
March 5, 2013, 01:27 PM
I think (as far as my puny opinion goes) that this is definitely a good move for the NRA. Getting those three letters pasted onto a national sport that is also very sympathetic to it's mission is great. Whenever the anti gun folks complain about it, NASCAR and the majority of it's fans will just tell them to go fly a kite.:neener:

Whenever I'm watching a race and the boring segments come up, I start trying to locate Danica Patrick's car and that always wakes me up.:D

Inebriated
March 5, 2013, 01:35 PM
Seems like they're most likely preaching to the choir.

I agree.

But, any membership gained is a good thing.

ThorinNNY
March 5, 2013, 01:58 PM
Well, seems to me I saw a lot of new NRA members being signed up on the boardwalk in Galveston, Tx in 2007 B.E.D.*. That huge hotel-what was it called? there was hosting a biker convention & many bikers signed up.

* Before E.B. Died

GrumpyFNX
March 5, 2013, 02:03 PM
In the words of DW - Boogity, Boogity, Boogity - Go NASCAR/ Funniest thing I have heard so far was some left-winger on radio this morning saying the drivers would boycott something sponsored by NRA. Probably most of them are carrying in the car.

ApacheCoTodd
March 5, 2013, 02:36 PM
I'll bet they could have the single most amazing race in the history of all motorsports and it'd still receive a virtual media blackout afterwards if the reporters were contractually required to use the letters NRA in a form which can't be twisted to their agenda.

As far as the NRA seeking the endorsement goes: I think it's a master stroke in giving the organization the same mainstream limelight as Lowe's or any of the other sponsors.

If you get bored and want a laugh, see how THEY are already given to fits of frothing rage by reading the top returns from the likes of The Bluffington Boast and Yawhocares and don't forget to read the responses from their loyal minions at the bottom of each "report".

gfanikf
March 5, 2013, 03:09 PM
I'll bet they could have the single most amazing race in the history of all motorsports and it'd still receive a virtual media blackout afterwards if the reporters were contractually required to use the letters NRA in a form which can't be twisted to their agenda.

As far as the NRA seeking the endorsement goes: I think it's a master stroke in giving the organization the same mainstream limelight as Lowe's or any of the other sponsors.

If you get bored and want a laugh, see how THEY are already given to fits of frothing rage by reading the top returns from the likes of The Bluffington Boast and Yawhocares and don't forget to read the responses from their loyal minions at the bottom of each "report".
Let's be honest most people who have no interest in NASCAR most likely heard about it when Dale Earnhardt died and if there was a big crash.

That said I'll give NASCAR credit for bringing in 50 Cent, they are really and honestly trying to expend their demographics and fanbase.

Honestly for something that my dad once described as having it's origins in "hillbilly moonshiners outrunning cops"* they've done a hell of a job at mainstreaming something that really was the prototypical...uhm ah screw it... redneck sport.

*For the record I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic..or perhaps there is some car racing sport or group that came out of that...I have no clue.

Sam1911
March 5, 2013, 03:16 PM
*For the record I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic..or perhaps there is some car racing sport or group that came out of that...I have no clue.
They only say that because stock car racing started as an outshoot of the moonshiners in the Appalachian hills souping up their cars to be able to outrun the law enforcement trying to bust them for making illegal/untaxed distilled spirits. http://ezinearticles.com/?NASCAR---The-Backwoods-Roots&id=786944

gfanikf
March 5, 2013, 03:23 PM
They only say that because stock car racing started as an outshoot of the moonshiners in the Appalachian hills souping up their cars to be able to outrun the law enforcement trying to bust them for making illegal/untaxed distilled spirits. http://ezinearticles.com/?NASCAR---The-Backwoods-Roots&id=786944
You know, that is most likely exactly why he said that. Neat. Thanks!

Lj1941
March 5, 2013, 03:34 PM
Just ignore a person like Piers Morgan for a while and he will eventually go away -hopefully back across the pond where he will be among like minded Socialists!

TarDevil
March 5, 2013, 03:34 PM
I bet half the guys who complain about their dues going to this instead of "the fight" have never even seen a real corporate budget and the value of marketing $$.

Go ahead and bet. I'll take your money.

JustinJ
March 5, 2013, 05:46 PM
3) Lawful Self-Defense Encounters: Hooo boy. Who wants to play through 100 levels of De-Escalate and Avoid, or "Be the Bigger Man and De-fuse Conflict," to finally get to the level where you get to take ONE shot and then sit through trial, counseling, and then you're pilloried in the press, lose your job, and your're so stressed and broke that your wife leaves you? Hey, fun!

Now that's funny. Reminds me of a spoof i once saw of a "Civil War" shooter. Fire, spend 45 seconds reloading, fire, repeat.

orionengnr
March 5, 2013, 09:55 PM
I think it's a good idea. I am sure many NASCAR fans are gun owners, but how many are NRA members? I see this as a membership drive and I don't mind at all.
DingDingDing Winner!
Only took 32 posts for someone to hit the nail on the head. NASCAR folk are self-proclaimed red-blooded, America-loving Americans. Thirty-six races times an average of 100,000 live spectators (plus many times that number on TV)...now, how many are gun owners? Answer: probably, a significant majority. How many gun owners are NRA members? Not enough.

If the NRA can boost membership through race sponsorship, I am all for it.
Why is AARP so powerful? They have convinced seniors (and those approaching that age) that AARP is their One True Hope. And they have convinced Congress that Woe Be Unto He Who Crosses AARP.

If all gun owners were NRA members (Hell, if 20% were NRA members) we would be hearing very little from His Majesty BHO, from head Court Jester Biden, and from erstwhile Queen Nancy.

gfanikf
March 5, 2013, 10:45 PM
Now that's funny. Reminds me of a spoof i once saw of a "Civil War" shooter. Fire, spend 45 seconds reloading, fire, repeat.
There was some really crappy budget games that actually featured something like that if IIRC.

Walkalong
March 5, 2013, 11:01 PM
having it's origins in "hillbilly moonshiners outrunning cops"*Don't forget the Bama boys runnin' shine as well. Sooner or later these guys had to see who was the best. What better way than a Saturday race? Ever see Greased Lightning (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076106/), or Thunder Road (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052293/?ref_=sr_1)? Great movies.

Now what did this have to do with guns? Oh yea, the NRA sponsored race. I think it is great advertising. :)

mcdonl
March 6, 2013, 08:38 AM
Well, NASCAR matched it's highest ticket sales and viewers in the 2011/2012 season and is considered by many the most popular sport in the country.

Maybe not if you live in the cities but where I come from it is very popular and I am in Maine.

I have not watched many races, but I will start. I want to support them.

bikerdoc
March 6, 2013, 08:55 AM
We were shooting with the grand kids Sunday. Both girls 7 and 6 were anxious to get the 22's cleaned so they could watch the race.

bds
March 6, 2013, 09:20 AM
NASCAR is definitely mainstream and "American" with a huge following. I really do think NRA did some careful research before deciding to sponsor NASCAR.

Also, are you aware of the latest NASCAR happening?

Danica Patrick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick) is drawing even more female fans (adult and children) to NASCAR and the PR/education campaign by NRA could make NRA/Second Amendment synonymous with NASCAR/American pasttime.

Can you picture tens of millions of current/future voters exposed to NRA/2A related backgrounds and certainly NRA/2A related commercials viewed during the race to provoke "awareness" of the US Constitution/Bill of Rights/Self Defense/Sporting use of firearms LIKE enjoying cars and auto racing! I can just imagine the liberals/antis going, "Noooooooooooooo!" in agony as desensitization and popularity increase for NASCAR/NRA. :D

I think it's a well calculated move by the NRA! Great job!

Double Vision
March 6, 2013, 09:28 AM
Some of you guys sure are funny, in a good way.

I think this will only help the NRA's image and exposure to the public. Bully for them.

Ryanxia
March 6, 2013, 09:30 AM
That's great news. Think of all the potential voters out of the NASCAR fan pool. They have a much bigger audience than even football and while I'm sure many/most of them support the Second Amendment, how many of them actually vote and pay attention to who they're voting for?

mcdonl
March 6, 2013, 09:38 AM
That's great news. Think of all the potential voters out of the NASCAR fan pool. They have a much bigger audience than even football and while I'm sure many/most of them support the Second Amendment, how many of them actually vote and pay attention to who they're voting for?

Ryan, awesome point.

returningfire
March 6, 2013, 10:19 AM
This is for publicity? Who doesn't already know and have an opinion of the NRA?
I would think that NRA funds should go where they say they will go when they ask for your donation. That is to fight bad gun laws and attempts at gun control.

NRA has about as much business sponsoring NASCAR as the Post office did when they sponsored Vance Armstrong's bicycle racing team. Zero.

This is purely my opinion and you are certainly entitled to yours.

bds
March 6, 2013, 10:23 AM
Think about this before opposing the NASCAR sponsorship.

How much increase in NRA membership/donation do you think the NASCAR sponsorship will bring in? This is not just a PR/awareness stunt but a deliberate membership/donation drive on a national/world-wide scale/viewership.

NRA has been preparing and fighting a war ... this is part of building that war chest. ;)

gfanikf
March 6, 2013, 10:30 AM
Think about this before opposing the NASCAR sponsorship.

How much increase in NRA membership/donation do you think the NASCAR sponsorship will bring in? This is not just a PR/awareness stunt but a deliberate membership/donation drive on a national/world-wide scale/viewership.

NRA has been preparing and fighting a war ... this is part of building that war chest. ;)
Not much.

http://www.performanceresearch.com/nascar-racestat.htm

According to the study, nationwide NASCAR fans can be described as predominately males (78%), married (73%), with an average age of 42 years, who owns a home (81%), with 3.4 cars per household. The median household income range is between $35,000 and $50,000 and almost all are employed full time (87%)

Sam1911
March 6, 2013, 10:35 AM
How much increase in NRA membership/donation do you think the NASCAR sponsorship will bring in?
Not much.
Hmmm...see, that's one thing I think I have to concede. I still find it absurd that they do direct mailing junk mail begging donations. That shouldn't work. It SHOULD be a ridiculous waste of money. But it draws in the cash like nothing else does! Boggles the mind, but it works.

This will likely turn out the same way. Doesn't make much sense on the face of it, but they'll likely see very sizable returns on this investment.

You can be utterly sure they devoted a great deal of study to producing a business model for this move and they've got the projected numbers to support their decision.

The mind wobbles, but they'll reap huge membership and donation increases I've no doubt.

gfanikf
March 6, 2013, 10:47 AM
I just wonder how much NASCAR fans will have to put in the plate so to speak. That's nothing against them, it's just looking at earning numbers and potential ROI.

But perhaps NRA has access to that full report (which is apparently around 100 pages) and has better marketing data that makes the idea favorable.

Girodin
March 6, 2013, 04:27 PM
Next they need a Bowl Game! The NRA bowl, I would love that.

Prophet
March 6, 2013, 04:52 PM
NASCAR is definitely mainstream and "American" with a huge following. I really do think NRA did some careful research before deciding to sponsor NASCAR.

Also, are you aware of the latest NASCAR happening?

Danica Patrick is drawing even more female fans (adult and children) to NASCAR and the PR/education campaign by NRA could make NRA/Second Amendment synonymous with NASCAR/American pasttime.

Can you picture tens of millions of current/future voters exposed to NRA/2A related backgrounds and certainly NRA/2A related commercials viewed during the race to provoke "awareness" of the US Constitution/Bill of Rights/Self Defense/Sporting use of firearms LIKE enjoying cars and auto racing! I can just imagine the liberals/antis going, "Noooooooooooooo!" in agony as desensitization and popularity increase for NASCAR/NRA.

I think it's a well calculated move by the NRA! Great job!

BINGO. NASCAR has done a lot as far as appealing to multiple demographics is concerned, more so than the NRA until they recently partnered with Colion Noir. This is the NRA's way of piggybacking on NASCARS longer-fought efforts, and I see how it could pay off big.

Texan Scott
March 7, 2013, 06:42 AM
NASCAR isn't just rednecks anymore.

That said, there's still a LOT of us :D. I've heard plenty of complaints about America having 80 million gun owners but only 4 and a fraction million NRA members.... so how many gun owning NASCAR fans you reckon the NRA could reach with a well targeted membership drive?

You watch... this works, there's gonna be NRA sponsored WWE cage matches next... :neener:

sDot
March 7, 2013, 07:43 AM
They should have sponsored Formula One. That would have turned some heads.

docnyt
March 7, 2013, 08:12 AM
Baby steps. If they sponsor a race in COTA, that would be awesome and would give me an excuse to drive to Tejas.

mcdonl
March 7, 2013, 08:28 AM
This is for publicity? Who doesn't already know and have an opinion of the NRA?

Sure, maybe on THR but Nascar reaches a lot of people who do know about the NRA or our ongoing fight to protect our rights.

FYI.... just about everyone I know owns a gun and shoots. None of them (Including the 50+ at my gun club have ever even heard of this web site, and half of them were not NRA members before this most recent battle)

So don't assume what people know, you may be surprised.

P5 Guy
March 7, 2013, 07:36 PM
I'm waiting for the S&W MAGNUM 500!

basicblur
March 7, 2013, 07:53 PM
probably not the best use of NRA funds
Well, it did make Piers' head explode and cause him to launch into another babbling tirade.
As Martha Stewart says; "that's a good thing"! :rolleyes:

I'll have to make a special effort to watch the race, if for no other reason, just to PO Piers...

Jest curious how long CNN can stick with this clown due to his abysmal ratings?

basicblur
March 8, 2013, 03:16 AM
If you just stop watchin' maybe he'll vanish,Blur!
Believe me - the only reason I DVR him (and the folks on MSNBC / CNN) is to see what the other side is up to.
(Keep your friends close, your enemies closer)

You never know how many clueless folks out there might actually believe his babbling - it was heartening when I saw the video clip of him interviewing Jesse Ventura (not that I'm any Ventura fan). Piers was tossing his usual word salad (just a bunch of far left gun talking points that make no sense) and Ventura was simply using common sense and some factual information.

At the end of the interview, Jesse looked out to the audience and asked "how many people here think I made crackpot points"? (one person clapped).
He then asked "how many people here think I made sensible points"? (sounded like the entire audience clapped).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ENcfdAoWkU
(crowd reaction at the 4 minute mark)

You know that just had to PO Piers - we can only hope his audience every night has the same reaction and gives Piers' opinion the time it deserves.

Mebbe that's one reason his ratings are so low - here's hoping they keep sinking until he's on a boat back to merry old England so he can worship the monarchy he's so enamored with up close and personal.

BTW - Rachael Madcow tonight continues to compare guns to tobacco - I just love these false dichotomies the loony left continues to regurgitate.

LaVere
March 8, 2013, 12:30 PM
Now that IS funny

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