So what do you think 5k lbs of WW is worth?


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grubbylabs
March 4, 2013, 10:40 PM
I was offered 5klbs of WW weights to day, delivered to my work. I have no idea what they are worth, and that much would make way more bullets than I could use.

I would have to find quite a few people to in on it with to make it possible for me to do it.

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Certaindeaf
March 4, 2013, 10:51 PM
Probably about $2000. offer lower though

cberge8
March 4, 2013, 10:59 PM
Assuming they are all lead, about $2000 sounds fair for that kind of volume.

Only problem is more and more WWs are getting to be zinc and steel. My local tire shop averages about 60% lead with the remainder being zinc/steel, and the amount of lead seems to be going down about 5% per year.

beatledog7
March 4, 2013, 11:17 PM
That's roughly 221,500 158-gr boolits, about .95 cents each. Yeah, less than a penny apiece. You'd have to subtract the weight of whatever zinc and steel is in the mix, but still a whopping good deal if you've got $2K and need a couple hundred thousand .38SPL slugs.

ReloaderFred
March 4, 2013, 11:47 PM
That's a lot of smelting to get the junk out of it. There's going to be the steel clips, zinc and steel weights, rubber valve stems, grease, oil, etc. For the extra work you're going to have to put in, I'd offer about .25 cents a pound, or maybe a little more, since they're delivering them. Once you get it smelted, it will cast good bullets without adding anything else in, so in the long run it's well worth the money and effort.

I checked what the only scrap yard in my area that will buy lead was paying last week, and it was .55 cents a pound for "clean lead". Wheel weights aren't considered clean lead. In the trade, it's called "dirty lead", since it has steel mixed with it, and more and more zinc and steel weights, so it's about half that. The other scrap yard won't even let you on their property with lead, so I only had one point of reference in pricing.

I've been trading for reclaimed shot, which is really clean, and getting it for the equivalent of .55 cents a pound, since it's a known quantity as far as lead/antimony content. By the time I get it, it can be used for reloading shotgun shells or for casting bullets, which is why I'm giving them top money for it.

Hope this helps.

Fred

grubbylabs
March 4, 2013, 11:59 PM
These are all lead, they will have already sorted them.

472x1A/B
March 5, 2013, 12:04 AM
Hmmm, wow. If I was offered 5k pounds of WW's to buy and only had to pay $2000.00 I would be doing dishes and cleaning the house for the next 2 years. Have you been offered to see these? How are they going to be delivered, in 55 gal. drums, 5 gal buckets, in a dump truck? I think a 55 gal bbl fulll weights right at 1800 lbs.. Good luck grubbylabs, hope you get'em.

Baryngyl
March 5, 2013, 12:20 AM
My local junkyard is selling WW for 30 cents a LB when they have them, that would make those worth $1,500.00 plus a bit for delivering to me.

See what your local junkyard is paying to buy them and selling them for then offer about 1/2 way between the 2 and see what they say.


Michael Grace

Certaindeaf
March 5, 2013, 12:30 AM
WW's are around eighty cents a pound here.. pretty much. Figure in the waste and the two to five days of smelting (depends on your smelter/rig) etc and the dollar a pound for smelted WW ingots guys are asking kinda makes sense.

joustin
March 5, 2013, 12:33 AM
Heck I would love to have 50 lbs. I haven't been able to find any here.

Looking for ammo? I can get anything you need!

grubbylabs
March 5, 2013, 12:43 AM
Well if your willing to send a check I am willing to use as many of the free flat rate USPS boxes as they will deliver.

Certaindeaf
March 5, 2013, 12:45 AM
Around here anymore you have to go to a scrapyard and hope they'll sell to you. The main/best place has a 500lb minimum for them to bother.

evan price
March 5, 2013, 06:14 AM
Unsmelted ww are going around fifty cents per pound. Not worth more unless you really need them. You can get ingots for a buck a pound.

RugerBob
March 5, 2013, 10:41 AM
I am just trying to figure out who they paid to seperate them. Figuring about 125 lbs in a 5 gallon bucket, thats about 40 buckets.
And then I average about a 103 lbs with a true bucket of real 100% lead wheel wieghts.
Before the zinc and garbage was stanard anyway.
Last time I was given 4 full buckets, after sorting just trash I ended up with 3 good ones and only 360lbs (+- 5lbs) of finished product.
Since you are buying in bulk I would offer less and haggle if need be.
I may have missed it , but is there a delivery fee?

Otto
March 5, 2013, 12:14 PM
So what do you think 5k lbs of WW is worth?

25 a pound. That's what our local scrap metal recycler is paying as of today. Five thousand pounds would be worth $1,250.

What does your seller want for it?

Certaindeaf
March 5, 2013, 12:19 PM
25 a pound. That's what our local scrap metal recycler is paying as of today. Five thousand pounds would be worth $1,250..
How much does he sell it for?

buck460XVR
March 5, 2013, 01:07 PM
I'm thinkin' anyone with two and a half tons of lead is looking to sell. Odds are they already know what the scrap yard will pay and are looking to get at least that much outta it. Even if it was my relation or good friend, I would at least give them what the scrap yard would. I would not ask them to take a loss from me. Now if they are in the business of makin' money and accept less than market value, I would keep what I need for myself and sell the rest at a profit. If the asking price is higher than scrap in the area, I would pass.

grubbylabs
March 5, 2013, 01:44 PM
They are from a group of core buyers, they go around and buy core auto parts as well as scrap metals.

My local pacific yard is selling them for 80 cents a pound as of this morning, so their offer of 55 cents a pound delivered seems really good, problem is, I don't have that kind of coin.

Any one want to get in on some good weights, I would pre sell 75 cents a pound and send you ingots, you pay shipping.

Certaindeaf
March 5, 2013, 01:58 PM
It's a heck of a lot of work and fuss, especially for that price. I'd still be half tempted to buy them anyway. it'd be better if they were less but you just saw/said what the market is.

oneounceload
March 5, 2013, 02:03 PM
Current price for lead is just over $1/lb

grubbylabs
March 5, 2013, 02:09 PM
Its a hobby, so long as I break even I am not all that concerned.

jmorris
March 5, 2013, 02:49 PM
Well if your willing to send a check I am willing to use as many of the free flat rate USPS boxes as they will deliver.
I don't think you would get them to ship a FRB full of ingots.

buck460XVR
March 5, 2013, 03:02 PM
I don't think you would get them to ship a FRB full of ingots.


I get FRBs full of bullets, what would the difference be as long as it's still under 70lbs?

grubbylabs
March 5, 2013, 03:49 PM
Their motto, if it fits it ships, 70lb weight limit. I ship bullets brass and all kinds of used car parts in those boxes and no one complains.

Certaindeaf
March 5, 2013, 04:02 PM
Last I checked seventy pounds was seventy pounds unless it's feathers and then I go teehee!

ReloaderFred
March 5, 2013, 05:32 PM
Feathers are weighed using the avoirdupois scale, which is 7000 grains per pound, or 16 ounces per pound. You're thinking of the Troy weight scale used for precious metals, where there are 5,760 grains per pound, or 12 ounces per pound.

I ship and receive heavy items in USPS Flat Rate Boxes all the time, including lead ingots. You just have to make sure you double box at the very minumum, and the cargo can't move around in the box. Some Postal Annexes are rougher on packages than others, too, so lots of packaging and strong tape help to mitagate their carelessness.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Texan Scott
March 5, 2013, 07:37 PM
I'm picturing CD giggling madly and trying to stuff 70lbs of feathers into a flat rate box.

I'm teeheeing. :p

jmorris
March 5, 2013, 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by jmorris
I don't think you would get them to ship a FRB full of ingots.

I get FRBs full of bullets, what would the difference be as long as it's still under 70lbs?

Kind of a smart alec comment.

A medium FRB is 12x3.5x14 or 588 cubic inches. Lead weighs about 708#'s per cubic foot. If you filled the above box full it would weigh over 240#. It would be less than 1/3 full to meet the weight requirement.

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