Want to get into comp.....


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Coldfinger
March 4, 2013, 10:53 PM
I live in Tacoma, WA and would like to get into competition shooting. I have been a shooter most all my life and am active duty military. I don't know where to start when it comes to getting into the competition arena. Is there anyone in the forum from this area that could point me in the right direction? Possibly show me the ropes?
I own and shoot handguns. Long guns I only own a .22 Mag. In terms of handguns I own two 1911s in .45. And one M&P .40
My 1911s include a Remington R1 and S&W E series. The only modification is to the R1 in that I installed a full length gude rod.
Suggestions, pointers, advice are greatly appreciated.

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lakecitybrass
March 4, 2013, 11:23 PM
Do you know where Paul Bunyan range is in Puyallup? They have a big match in June and one in July (high power) If you look at Washington State Shooters Association, they have a full schedule and contact people. I haven't shot at the Tacoma ranges but I know they have prone matches.

allaroundhunter
March 4, 2013, 11:45 PM
What type of competition shooting do you want to get into?

With only pistols, that means that you can't get into 3 gun just yet; but there are more than enough pistol based matches to get into.

Steel challenge, IDPA, USPSA, just to name a few.

IDPA is a more "defensive" based type of competition, and USPSA is similar but with less restrictive rules. I prefer USPSA out of the two. Both of those have multiple stages in each match, and you are moving between several firing positions in the majority of those stages.

Steel challenge has steel targets set out in front of you (5 targets typically). You engage 4 plates in the order of your choosing and then shoot the "stop plate" to end the stage. You shoot each stage 5 times and take the lowest 4 scores. There are several stages in each match; and each stage is shot with the shooter stationary in the starting position.

Youtube these 3 as they are the most popular pistol matches. If any of them interest you, we would be more than happy to give you some advice and/or pointers!

BullfrogKen
March 5, 2013, 10:21 AM
Unless you want to buy something new, the guns I'm seeing will let you shoot IDPA and IPSC (USPSA) matches without having to go out and buy something just to compete in the sport.


Those High Power matches lakecitybrass referred to require a rifle, and a match AR is about the cheapest way into the sport. Unfortunately, right now anything AR isn't cheap so you might want to wait out the Great Black Rifle Buying Spree of 2013 before you try to gear up for HP rifle matches.

Nwflycaster
March 5, 2013, 12:43 PM
Coldfinger,

Depending on what kind of competative shooting you want to do I can steer you in the right direction. I live about an hour and a quarter north of you but know people in various disciplines down in your area. For highpower, both across the course and mid range prone, you've got Paul Bunyan and Tacoma Rifle, then just east there is Cascade Gun club. I'm currently shooting in a 4 position smallbore winter league that has four teams from cascade, plus I know they have a highpower program and shoot monthly matches. Go to wsrpa.com and you can look at whatever discipline you want to shoot and you can find local matches listed for just about every weekend. If you want I can get you a name or two that would get you going for that area.

Getting into highpower right now could be expensive if you don't already own a rifle. But a lot of clubs let you use their rifles for matches if you buy their ammo, though it will likely be a garand. They do this at my club, so you can at least try things out for awhile to make sure you like it before sinking a lot of money into the sport. Plus there's a lot of us that will let you try out our stuff also. I've loaned my rifle, jacket, mat and other equipment to new shooters to try out at some matches. I'm always looking to get new competative shooters involved with our sports.

Coldfinger
March 5, 2013, 11:54 PM
Thank you for the advice. I have watched videos on steel shooting. It looks fun and the rules seem fairly straight forward. I do own a rifle and some would be mad at me but I sporterized a mosin, not the most accurate rifle available but I enjoy the recoil. To be honest rifle comp doesn't grab at my intrests because of my military back ground. I probably won't own an AR platform until after I retire because I have to shoot them as part of my career choice. I enjoy the hell out of my 1911s and reload tons of 45. So I guess in short I would like to find something like steel, but an interested in anything I can shoot using my 1911s or my M&P 40. All of my guns are bone stock other than a full length guide rod in my remington. Anyone I could contact would be great.

Welding Rod
March 17, 2013, 07:02 PM
I shot in a small friendly club match this morning at Capitol City Rifle and Pistol Club in Little Rock, WA. It is located a little south west of Olympia. We had 9 shooters this morning. These matches are the 3rd Sunday of every month.

We shoot steel targets - a combination of falling plates, pepper poppers, horizontally swinging and dropping plates, pins, and Texas stars. We normally have 2 strings of fire, first single action revolver (although they let me shoot my 92FS auto for practice only since I don't own a revolver), and then about anything in the primary match. Each string has 5 stations, each shot at 45 feet. 4 stations are 12 shots (6 and a 6 reload). Each of these has a max time allowed. I think it is 90 seconds for SA revolver and 60 seconds for the primary match. Number of hits are added for a score. The fifth station is two timed shots on two pepper poppers (2 draws signaled by a shot timer). The shot time for each hit is correlated to a numeric score between 1 and 6. So it is 50 rounds for each string of fire.

That course of fire is shot every other month (odd month).

Then for every other month (even month) the first event is still SA revolver but the primary match is supposed to be a timed event (as opposed to primarily accuracy), with time penalties for missed targets. Lowest time wins.

Strong side holster is required for handgun events.

They have high power matches the 4th Sunday of each month. Even numbered months are "Old Soldiers" matches. These are shot with WWII or prior service rifles. Two strings of fire, 15 shots each, slow fire prone, at 200 yards.

After the Old Soldiers match is a Carbine Match. This is shot at 100 yards. 10 slow prone, 10 rapid prone, 10 sitting, 10 offhand. Any sights are allowed but their is a small penalty for red dots, and a little bigger penalty for magnified optics.

Odd numbered months are CMP style matches. These are shot with any service rifle (and iron sights). 4 strings of fire: 20 shots prone slow fire, 10 shots prone rapid fire, 10 shots sitting (or kneeling) rapid fire, 10 shots standing (no sling). All at 200 yards.

After the CMP match is a .22 speed match on 25 steel plates. Any sights allowed. 10 at 25 yards, 10 at 50 yards, and 5 (pig silhouettes) at 75 yards. This string of fire is shot twice. Lowest time wins.

Then in April - September (IIRCC) there is also a M1 Garand match on the 2nd Sunday of every month. Course of fire is the same as CMP style.

There is also an annual handgun pin match in about August.

So each long gun match shoots 6 times per year. Ribbons are given for top placers in CMP, Old Soldiers, and M1 Garand at each match. I think they might be given for the Carbine match too this year. The top 5 match scores for each shooter are tallied at the end of the year for CMP, Old Soldiers, and M1 Garand (and I think Carbine this year) and season winners are recognized. Last year we got ribbons with engraved medals and nice certificates. The top 3 shooters' names and season scores went on a permanent club trophy.

They normally give away meat for prizes at the handgun events.

Entry fees are normally 10 bucks for the main event (1st event of the day for long gun and 2nd event of the day for handgun) and 5 bucks for the secondary event of the day.

CCRP is a nice range complex you might want to check out. It is small and friendly, and a nice facility. The rifle range has overhead cover and a concrete slab at the firing line, as does the practice pistol bay. The action pistol range for the pistol matches is out in the open, but there is overhead cover for when you are not shooting or scoring. All of the matches start shooting at about 9 AM, but of course you want to get there earlier (by about 8:30) to mingle, get set up, and signed in. The club has loaner M1 Garands and 30-06 ammo for them (for like 6 bucks a box I believe). Although if you want one I would contact the match director ahead of time so he can get one out the safe well before a match is about to start.

Let me know if you want more info.

Jed Carter
March 22, 2013, 07:30 PM
Personally, I would get a strong side belt hoster with no drop, 4 magazine pouches, and take one of your M1911s to a USPSA match. Here is a Link to their websight to find a local club. http://www.uspsa.org/locate-uspsa-clubs.php Many of the local clubs have a different match each week, I'm partial to USPSA and Steel Challenge.

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