SKS tech-sights


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Mamertine
March 5, 2013, 10:08 PM
I have tech sights for my Marlin .22 and they are very nice. I knew they made them for the SKS also and I've always been interested in getting tech sights for the my SKS too. After viewing another member's thread on his SKS tonight I noticed that the rear sight mounts to the very back of the receiver. That seems very close to where my eyes are while shooting. So I got out some guns and compared. With the SKS it would land about an inch from my glasses, with the Marlin they're about 4 inches away, on a Garand it's roughly 4 inches out again (I think I put the marlin against the Garand while installing the tech sites). It's a yugo SKS (not Chinese with a short stock) and I am quite tall and thus also have a long neck which puts my face closer to the sights than most other people's.

How close can you be to the rear aperture of a peep style sight to have it work? Are there other options for aftermarket sights (not scopes) for an SKS?

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tnelson31
March 5, 2013, 10:12 PM
For me, the closer the better.

Mikee Loxxer
March 5, 2013, 10:13 PM
I too like Tech Sights and have considered getting some for my SKS. I have however heard of folks not liking the SKS sights for the reason you describe. The rear aperture is too close and in some cases impacts their shooting glasses upon recoil. I'll be interested in seeing what others have to say on this subject.

tahunua001
March 5, 2013, 10:50 PM
I also wear glasses, and love the tech sights on my SKS, ironically I received my M1 garand in the mail today and compared the two, it's not that noticeable of a difference... I still get a very good sight picture...
one warning that they don't give you before you get them..

you have to remove the existing rear sight because it interferes with the sight picture. its a pain and cleaning is a pain as well... but it's so much nicer... especially if you have problems with iron sights.

trueg50
March 6, 2013, 08:58 AM
I have a yugo sks with tech sights, and I don't have any issues with the rear sight being too close. Though it is a little different to get used to having it so close (and I am not a big guy).

Did you also get the thin sks front sight post as well?

tahunua001
March 6, 2013, 12:49 PM
I didn't know that they made a front sight... that might be an investment for when I have a little playing money again.

mljdeckard
March 6, 2013, 01:15 PM
I have the Tech-Sight and T-6 stock, once my wife let it ding her glasses.

And yes, the thinner front-sight post helps a lot.

mainmech48
March 6, 2013, 03:53 PM
No intent of "threadjack" intended, but since my now-bifocal-clad eyes no longer do too well with open irons I've been considering installing a Tech-Sight on my own SKS.

Since replacing the factory front blade/bead sight with a FO unit has made a huge difference for me when used with a receiver sight on my several LA rifles, could any of you Tech-Sight users tell me whether a Williams Firesight SKS front would be compatible?

chris in va
March 6, 2013, 04:46 PM
I suspect you could add a stock spacer to increase LOP and pull your face a little further away.

mljdeckard
March 6, 2013, 05:17 PM
I don't mind running it right in my face, just realize there's a bit more recoil than an AR.

pseudonymity
March 6, 2013, 06:55 PM
I suspect you could add a stock spacer to increase LOP and pull your face a little further away.

I use a 1" buttstock spacer and I do not remember ever getting the sight to hit my glasses.

I am a big fan of Tech Sights on the SKS - the rear aperture and thinner front post makes a world of difference in sight picture compared to factory sights.

The Tech Sight probably extends .5-.75 inches past the rear of the receiver - so unless you are nearly driving the receiver into your glasses already with the stock sights, adding Tech Sights is probably not going to increase the chances of that happening very much.

Giterboosted
March 7, 2013, 02:57 AM
I've got em, I like em

Ignition Override
March 7, 2013, 03:31 AM
Wouldn't a 1" (or thicker) plastic recoil pad help?
My SKS (with Tech Sight:)) always has the 1" pad because it increases the 'length of pull'. At 5'11" the ergonomics are too cramped without it.
This pad cost about $20 back in '08.

This pad also helps the 'l.o.p.' of the Spanish FR8. This has a single open sight and three aperture settings, somewhat like the HK-91/PTR-91.

For both rifles it keeps my eye a bit further from both apertures etc, which seems to help.

kBob
March 7, 2013, 09:02 AM
Back when I first learned to shoot M-1s in high school JROTC I was told to keep my eye as far as possible from the aperature to provide more accuracy.

When I was taught to shoot the XM-16E1 I had in basic training they wanted us to get as close as possible to the aperature to be able to see more through it. (They seemed incapable of understanding that by leaving both eyes open I saw just as much from way back) Even to the point of snuggling up to touch nose to the charging handle. The old rubber baby buggy stocks and the A1 trapdoor stocks were shorter than the A2 stock.

I shoot with an aperature from where ever it is comfortable. Being taller than any height meantioned here so far, yes I would have a one inch extention on an SKS as the back of the dust cover already threatens me.

-kBob

mac66
March 7, 2013, 09:27 PM
I put a set on my sks last summer. makes a big difference.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/mac66/105_9355.jpg

colorado_handgunner
March 7, 2013, 09:44 PM
Tech Sights have a very small aperture. So small I could not see through them.

DMK
March 7, 2013, 10:34 PM
Tech Sights have a very small aperture. So small I could not see through them.

The TS-100 flip sight type uses AR-15 apertures, so you can replace it with a different (larger) size if you'd like.

I swapped one of mine to use an XS Sights "Same plane" aperture.

With the TS-200 elevation adjustable sight, you'd have to drill it out to get a larger aperture.

ypsimark
March 7, 2013, 10:53 PM
So how do these compare to Mojo Sights? http://www.mojosights.com/

I'm considering them as an upgrade for my nagant.

Mamertine
March 7, 2013, 11:15 PM
Does anyone have experience with the Mojo? I'm inclined to go with them.
The third option I've found was Williams sights (http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/image_sks.htm).

primalmu
March 7, 2013, 11:38 PM
Mojo sights won't increase the sight radius, which IMO probably contributes to most of the accuracy gains of the Tech-Sights.

DMK
March 8, 2013, 12:14 AM
Mojo sights mount too far forward to work properly. An aperture sight needs to be close to the eye so you can concentrate your focus on the front sight.

While the Mojo is an improvement over the original sight if nothing else is available (I have them on my Mosin Nagants and K-31s, and like the tandem front and rear aperture Snap Sights with a round Bullseye target), the Tech sight is far superior in both precision and rapid sight acquisition.

The all aluminum Williams sight trails in a distant third place. I found it to be flimsy and loose fitting, along with all the drawbacks of the Mojo.

DMK
March 8, 2013, 12:24 AM
could any of you Tech-Sight users tell me whether a Williams Firesight SKS front would be compatible?

Yes, I've used the fiber optic Firesight and Tech sight together on an SKS, but you must use the TS-200 elevation adjustable Tech sight, because you'll lose the ability to adjust elevation at the front sight.

ypsimark
March 8, 2013, 12:31 AM
Thoughts on a crosshair front post? http://www.midwayusa.com/product/693844/kns-front-sight-post-ak-47-mak-90-sks-duplex-crosshair-reticle-matte

ObsceneJesster
March 8, 2013, 01:56 AM
Does anyone know if the top rail on that Tapco T6 stock interferes with the tech sight.

tahunua001
March 8, 2013, 03:06 AM
from what I've read over at SKSboards, the tapco rail does interfere and a couple guys recommend either the cheesegrater handguard or a non railed HG like the ATI.
I have a ramline HG on mine and have no interference.

tnxdshooter
March 8, 2013, 04:49 AM
I have the Tech-Sight and T-6 stock, once my wife let it ding her glasses.

And yes, the thinner front-sight post helps a lot.

In order to get a good sight picture did you have to use a cheek riser it get one of those butt stocks for it that angles down? I've got the cheese grater hand guard. I know with the red dot I had the sight picture came in above the front sight hood. I tried adjusting it down to no avail. So wound up selling the eotech 512. With the tech sights don't you have to replace or modify the rear pin that holds the dust cover on to get then to install correctly?

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mainmech48
March 8, 2013, 12:28 PM
Thanks, DMK! That's the model (TS200) I plan on installing. My concern was whether or not it might have enough elevation adjustment available to compensate for the Firesight's semi-fixed position.

Next on the agenda: TG off to Kiivari.

tnxdshooter
March 9, 2013, 06:18 AM
Thanks, DMK! That's the model (TS200) I plan on installing. My concern was whether or not it might have enough elevation adjustment available to compensate for the Firesight's semi-fixed position.

Next on the agenda: TG off to Kiivari.

kivari works wonders on triggers.

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Roadking Rider
March 9, 2013, 08:44 AM
I also have trouble with sights that are to close. I went with the Williams Fire Sights on my SKS. I can't believe the difference it has made in my ability to shoot my yugo more accurately.

tnxdshooter
March 10, 2013, 06:14 AM
For those that have tapco stocks with tech sights installed did you A. Have to shave any off the back I'd the stock to make the tech sights fit? B. How is the sight picture without having to use a cheek riser? C. Did you modify the original break down pin and if not where did you but the additional pin to modify?

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trueg50
March 10, 2013, 09:44 AM
For those that have tapco stocks with tech sights installed did you A. Have to shave any off the back I'd the stock to make the tech sights fit? B. How is the sight picture without having to use a cheek riser? C. Did you modify the original break down pin and if not where did you but the additional pin to modify?

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Yugo SKS shooter with a wooden stock, so I cannot comment on the tapco specific stock, but I did indeed have to shave off a little wood on my SKS stock.

I have an "M59/66A1" and the pin that keeps the take down pin from falling out was secured too well, so I had to use a dremel tool to cut the pin.

tnxdshooter
March 11, 2013, 05:24 AM
Yugo SKS shooter with a wooden stock, so I cannot comment on the tapco specific stock, but I did indeed have to shave off a little wood on my SKS stock.

I have an "M59/66A1" and the pin that keeps the take down pin from falling out was secured too well, so I had to use a dremel tool to cut the pin.

Okay

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tnxdshooter
March 11, 2013, 07:04 PM
I think when and or if I decide to go with the tech sights then I'm going to get the kns cross hair front sight.

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ypsimark
March 11, 2013, 07:05 PM
I think when and or if I decide to go with the tech sights then I'm going to get the kns front cross hair sight.

The cross hair front sight looks great... makes me wonder why they are not more popular.

tnxdshooter
March 11, 2013, 07:06 PM
Yeah. I'm quiet sure it makes the SKS a touch more accurate also. So no one on here has a Tapco t6 and can tell me if they had to modify the stock at all to use the tech sights?

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tnxdshooter
March 17, 2013, 07:44 AM
Those that have tech sites on the sks did you remove the original sks rear site and just leave the leaf spring or what?

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trueg50
March 17, 2013, 10:31 AM
You have to remove the rear sight.

The tech-sights come with a cross pin that retains the leaf spring. I got the base model 100, and it came with good instructions and the pin.

My M59/66A1 had a 1 piece sight rear sight without a cross pin to drift out, but others might have the cross pin.

Joshua M. Smith
March 17, 2013, 10:38 AM
Hello,

I liked the ones I had years back before getting obsessed with Mosins.

Bear in mind that the T100 may not properly clear a Chinese SKS and upgrading it so it will costs more than if you buy the more expensive rear sight to begin with.

This, and the owner's handling of it, were my biggest bitches. So far as I know, he still has not addressed that issue in his FAQs and I will do no more business with him until he does. I try to address all customer problems this serious myself and consider it to be very poor customer service when it's not even mentioned.

Regards,

Josh

Ignition Override
March 17, 2013, 10:06 PM
This might have been a fluke when my Tech Sight was manufactured, but the sides of the base are different lengths.

This required using the lateral adjustment to move the aperture to the position at the extreme left.
It then allowed very straight shooting, but it took me a while to notice that the frame had unequal lengths on the sides which hug the rear of the bolt cover.

I still recommend the higher-priced Tech Sight (TS 200?) very much.

clone
March 18, 2013, 01:07 AM
I have a TS200 Installed on a Yugo and like it.

But the TS100 doesn't work as intended. When adjusted, all you can see is the very tip of the front sight over the rear sight block (not a good sight picture). At first I thought, well maybe its just "this" sks as some of them where crudely made. But after trying it on 4 different SKS's (3 Norinco, 1 Yugo) still no go. Sent the sight back thinking it was defective and tried again on all 4, same problem.

So if you want a Tech Sight get the TS200. The TS100's are designed wrong, they need to sit a tad higher to get a proper sight picture. I emailed them about this issue but got a snide remark along the lines of "it must be your 4 rifles and not our sight".

I had had plans of buying more of their products for several different rifles but I think I'll pass after than comment.

tnxdshooter
March 18, 2013, 04:37 AM
I have a TS200 Installed on a Yugo and like it.

But the TS100 doesn't work as intended. When adjusted, all you can see is the very tip of the front sight over the rear sight block (not a good sight picture). At first I thought, well maybe its just "this" sks as some of them where crudely made. But after trying it on 4 different SKS's (3 Norinco, 1 Yugo) still no go. Sent the sight back thinking it was defective and tried again on all 4, same problem.

So if you want a Tech Sight get the TS200. The TS100's are designed wrong, they need to sit a tad higher to get a proper sight picture. I emailed them about this issue but got a snide remark along the lines of "it must be your 4 rifles and not our sight".

I had had plans of buying more of their products for several different rifles but I think I'll pass after than comment.

If I get one it will be the ts 200 with kns cross hair front.

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trueg50
March 18, 2013, 07:50 AM
I have a TS200 Installed on a Yugo and like it.

But the TS100 doesn't work as intended. When adjusted, all you can see is the very tip of the front sight over the rear sight block (not a good sight picture). At first I thought, well maybe its just "this" sks as some of them where crudely made. But after trying it on 4 different SKS's (3 Norinco, 1 Yugo) still no go. Sent the sight back thinking it was defective and tried again on all 4, same problem.

So if you want a Tech Sight get the TS200. The TS100's are designed wrong, they need to sit a tad higher to get a proper sight picture. I emailed them about this issue but got a snide remark along the lines of "it must be your 4 rifles and not our sight".

I had had plans of buying more of their products for several different rifles but I think I'll pass after than comment.
With the Yugo's you most certainly have to remove the rear sight leaf.

My M59/66A1 made in 1983 with the rear leaf removed has a clear "channel" almost, so I can see the whole front sight post protector (metal ring around the front sight).

With the Yugo's you might not have a "securing pin" that the TSR100 directions say you might have. Mine had what looked like a pin, but in reality it was just a part of the sight leaf. I skipped to the removal of the leaf using wire wrapped around the barrel, and pressing down on the leaf while pulling it back (towards the receiver).

chicharrones
March 18, 2013, 08:41 AM
Does anyone have experience with the Mojo? I'm inclined to go with them.
The third option I've found was Williams sights (http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/image_sks.htm).

I first tried the Williams rear aperture on my SKS, but it has a loose fit on mine and has windage slop. Plus, it is merely slipped under a roll pin that replaces the rear sight. Like nearly all Williams sights it is fairly fragile for a "combat carbine". For a target shooter or a hunter it would be okay if it fits tightly on your SKS.

I currently have a Mojo on my SKS. It is much more sturdy than the Williams and mounts similarly to the originals SKS rear sight. The distance of the Mojo from the eye does not make the aperture help you focus like a rear mounted aperture on a TechSights would give you.

The other problem with a Mojo in my opinion is you sight in the elevation by raising or lowering the front sight (which is okay in itself), but the eye wants to align the Mojo with the round front sight shroud instead of aligning the Mojo with the front sight post. Due to the Mojo being so far foward, if quickly aligning the sights, the eye wants to put "circle on circle". You have to consciously put the Mojo on the post, which kind of defeats the speed advantage of an aperture sight.

Anyway, the Mojo works but I can't say it works better than the standard SKS rear sight. The Williams has the same problem since its aperture is in the same location as the Mojo.

LNK
March 18, 2013, 09:15 AM
Have tech sights on my Norinco. Yes they are close to the eye. Had to put a recoil pad on the buttstock to increase LOP. Once I did that, no more issues. I am 6' 200#, if that matters....Only way for my aging eyes to use open sights. Can ring the 18" gong at 200 yds all day offhand. Way lighter than my FAL.....Still like the FAL better though...

LNK

mljdeckard
March 18, 2013, 12:16 PM
(Sorry, lost track of the thread for a while,)

Yes, I did have to shave some plastic off the stock to make it fit, but not much.

And I don't mind finding the sights without a cheek rest, I'm used to doing it that way without one on an M-16 anyway.

tnxdshooter
March 19, 2013, 05:33 PM
(Sorry, lost track of the thread for a while,)

Yes, I did have to shave some plastic off the stock to make it fit, but not much.

And I don't mind finding the sights without a cheek rest, I'm used to doing it that way without one on an M-16 anyway.

That's kind of to be expected.

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