hi point carbines - opinions?


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tuj
March 9, 2013, 07:50 AM
Looking at carbines and interested in this one. Can anyone tell me how they run?

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DanTheFarmer
March 9, 2013, 07:53 AM
Great

CornCod
March 9, 2013, 08:01 AM
I liked mine before the burglar got it. Front sight tended to get loose after a lot of shooting. Field Stripping is well-neigh impossible except to those in the skilled trades. However, I used the same method as I used with the similarly difficult Ruger Mark II (spraying every opening with a bath of WD-40) and the Hi-Point 9mm kept humming nicely. The Hi-Point is light, handy and reasonably accurate. If you can't afford one of those fancy Beretta pistol caliber carbines the Hi-Point is the way to go.

tuj
March 9, 2013, 08:03 AM
Do they feed hollow-points reliably? Do you guys like the 9mm or the 45acp better?

meanmrmustard
March 9, 2013, 08:38 AM
They feed EVERYTHING! As for caliber choice, Ive used both to take deer at close ranges.

What do you plan to do with it? Plink, hd, hunt? The 45 is what I would choose.

12Bravo20
March 9, 2013, 09:53 AM
I've had my .40 Hi Point carbine for about 6+ years and haven't had any issues with it. Fugly but very functional! I have a cheap red dot on mine.

Paper_Zombie
March 9, 2013, 09:59 AM
A friend of mine brought one to the range one time. It felt like it was going to fall apart with every shot, and I was never 100% sure I'd seated the magazine properly, but dang was it accurate!

Careful though...his had literally blown up due to a hot factory load. By blow up, I mean the receiver block exited the gun through the left side.

Hi-point, being hi-point, fixed it for free.

It now has a toilet bolt as a charging handle. :scrutiny:

mytyace
March 9, 2013, 10:00 AM
i love mine i have the 995ts i can get 10 shot 1.5in groups at 50 yards with a red dot

benatilstate
March 9, 2013, 10:34 AM
Fugly yes, functional and reliable definitely yes, and lots of fun. I had a 9mm and wish I hadnt sold it. Was like a step up from .22 without going all the way to a bottleneck round (in cost and power).

jimmyraythomason
March 9, 2013, 10:37 AM
Very pleased with my 995T.

tuj
March 9, 2013, 10:46 AM
I'm looking for home-defense. I'm also considering the Storm and a 16" upper for my AR. Not really sure which option I like best. The .223 I hear has less over-penetration risk, but I'm more of a pistol shooter, so I tend to have more 45acp and 9mm ammo on-hand than .223.

What would you guys take? An AR or a pistol-caliber carbine for HD? Either would have a red dot and foregrip.

jim243
March 9, 2013, 10:50 AM
hi point carbines - opinions?

Can't tell you about anyone's but mine, a Hi-Point 4095, shoots great and is a blast to use. Recoil about the same as a 223 and very accurate.

Jim

baz
March 9, 2013, 10:57 AM
What would you guys take? An AR or a pistol-caliber carbine for HD? Either would have a red dot and foregrip.Well, I have both (actually, my .223 is a Tromix Saiga) so I guess I'm covered no matter what.

But I think the answer depends on what you mean by "home defense," and whether the gun will be designated for that sole purpose. When I think of "home defense" I think of being in my home, defending against a home invasion, an armed burglar, etc. For that, I happen to think I'm adequately covered by my XDM in 9mm. If it got to where I was gonna chose between my 995 and the .223 in the same situation where I'd use an XDM, I'd probably grab the 995. It has a red dot, and a laser. The .223 is sighted in for 200 yards, and is scoped with a LER Scout Mount setup, so it really isn't set up for CQB. But if I have to go outside, I'm grabbing the .223, not the 995.

Now there is a big price differential between a 995 and a .223 AR. Personally, I cannot justify owning the latter just as a CQB gun. Given that, I'd go for a 995 as a much cheaper alternative.

YMMV.

jerkface11
March 9, 2013, 11:02 AM
Best bang for your buck in the carbine department. If you have more money the Kel-tec holds more ammo. If you have even more money the 9mm AR's are very nice too. But at that point you can buy all 3 calibers of hipoint for the same price.

Panzercat
March 9, 2013, 12:09 PM
The Hi-Point is light, handy and reasonably accurate.I'm on board with everything but the 'light' part. Still a good buy tho.
If you have more money the Kel-tec holds more ammo.You'll never find one. Just saving you the frustration right here and now.

Furncliff
March 9, 2013, 12:25 PM
I like pistol caliber carbines, I bought a 4595 out of idle curiosity. It's been totally reliable with store bought and homemade ammo, including hollow points. It's compact size the ability to mount red dots and/or lights, reliability and price make it ideal for a budget HD weapon. The company has a no BS warrantee, mags are cheap and there are larger after market mags available. I have an adapter that will allow me to use 1911 magazines.

I like mine, but would choose a the 9mm just for cost. My only complaint... mine is not very accurate, but all my guns are range toys so using it as a soup can blaster is fine with me.

Oh, and it's an ugly sucker.:D

Geno
March 9, 2013, 02:17 PM
Awesome carbine. I wrote a review here some years back about "The Little Carbine That Could". I score them a 10. :D

Geno

jonnyc
March 9, 2013, 03:37 PM
I love my 995 in its ATI stock, much more solid than the original stock.
It feeds almost everything, but sometimes hangs up on flat-point 147 grainers. Why do they even make those things? HP and RN-FMJ are just fine.

Chris-bob
March 9, 2013, 03:52 PM
I bought my 995 in 2000 for $75 at a pawn shop. Shot it a lot since then. Never a single fail-to-feed or stovepipe. It shoots anything I feed it with zero problems. Everyone that shoots it ends their session wanting one.

meanmrmustard
March 9, 2013, 04:09 PM
I'm on board with everything but the 'light' part. Still a good buy tho.
You'll never find one. Just saving you the frustration right here and now.
...and its my experience that the KelTec is overpriced, always was, and is less accurate and much less reliable.

The Hi Point will do what you need to do. Just carry more mags.

chris in va
March 9, 2013, 07:31 PM
I had a 9mm for a few years.

Lots of fun, light and easy to use.

Not all was roses though. I bought it used from a gun show. The ZAMAK receiver innards were ground down so far as to render it INOP. I guess the previous owner didn't lube it.

Sent it to the factory on my dime. They refurbished it and I tried firing it. The thing jammed and I discovered the barrel was installed off-center. Sent it back again.

It worked decently after that for two years. Then the safety simply broke off. Locked it up. Sent it back again.

Fired it another year, then a piece of the receiver broke off internally. Sent it back.

I finally had enough and sold it, along with the 8 mags HiPoint gave me "for my trouble". A $120 gun turned into a $350 PITA. It was fun when it worked.

hi-tower
March 9, 2013, 11:03 PM
went to the range with my 9mm one today with a friend. Worked great and had a lot of fun. Shot about 250 rounds through it with not one issue. Might have to get another in a different caliber once the frenzy prices die down and you can find stuff again. We were shooting tight groups at 25 yards and most others at the range wanted to know what it was. I don't think they are ugly. I like mine and don't plan to ever sell it.

Deer_Freak
March 10, 2013, 12:44 PM
I have a 995B. It looks like I stole it from the set of planet of the Apes. But it is tough and the only problem I have had is keeping the front sight tight. I finally put lock tight on the fasteners and have not had any more problems.

rondog
March 10, 2013, 01:22 PM
I have a 995 and a 4095, and bought a 995 for my grandson. All function wonderfully.

When I bought the .40, I stopped and bought two boxes of FMJ ammo and headed for this indoor range. The RO (a female with a "distinctive personality"), had to stifle her giggling because she obviously thought very little of my ugly new gun. So she decided to accompany me to the range "to watch". I'm sure she thought she was going to get some great entertainment watching me struggle with what was sure to be a piece of junk. Maybe even get to see it blow up in my face. She was all excited.

Keep in mind it was still in the box from the store, no cleaning, no sight adjustments, nothing. Just bought it and went shooting.

I put the first box of ammo into this target. Had to put a piece of masking tape on the front sight blade because it was hard to see the black blade against the black target.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20High%20Points/DSCN1764.jpg

I put the second box of ammo into this target, had a few flyers because my arms were getting tired from holding it up....I'm more of a bench shooter than a standing shooter.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/my%20High%20Points/DSCN1763.jpg

By this time the RO had left in disgust, no misery show for her to enjoy.

Now, I can't speak for anyone else, but to ME this was very acceptable shooting for something that just came out of the box! Now that it has a red-dot optic on it, it's even better. All three of our H-P carbines have red-dots.

soonerfan85
March 10, 2013, 09:26 PM
From what I've seen first hand and read the Hi Points offer a lot of gun for the money and their warranty is second to none. They are a bit heavy and the 10 rd mag limits the fun factor. I've always wanted one but never seem to be in the right place at the right time.

Not trying to change your mind or hijack your thread, but have you considered the KelTec Sub 2000? I bought a used Sub 2000 in 40S&W and while not as accurate as the Hi Point out past 50yds, it is light weight, will take 15 & 33 rd Glock mags and is plenty accurate at 50 yds. I put a Crimson Trace laser on mine and it's a lot of fun. The downside is the charging handle would be hard for many women to operate. Like Hi Point, KelTec is well know for taking care of their customers if issues arise. Finding one, even before the latest craziness, is the hard part.

Good luck

Jackal
March 10, 2013, 10:51 PM
My old Hi-Point 9mm shot better, was more accurate and more reliable than the Beretta Storm that replaced it. Kinda sad really....:uhoh:

foghornl
March 11, 2013, 07:52 AM
My humble 1/50th of $1.00...

Pig-Butt-Stuck-In-A-Mud-Fence ugly.

Goes Bang! on request every time, and puts the lead where you aim, or Hi-Point fixes it for FREE. No matter if you are the 1st or 5th owner, or anywhere in between.

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