berry's 124Grain RN for 9MMI use 5.0 Unique seated 1.120" in three different guns. (S&W 39, SIG P6 & XDc)
Here is what Berry says:
Plated bullets occupy a position between cast bullets and jacketed bullets. They are soft lead, but have a hard outer shell on them. When loading plated bullets we have found best results using low- to mid-range jacketed data in the load manual. You must use data for a bullet that has the same weight and profile as the one you are loading. Do not exceed mid-range loads. Do not use magnum loads.
March 10, 2013, 03:53 PM
I don't use the 124gr in 9mm...
For the 230gr RN plated (I have used Rainier) my recipe is:
Rainier 230gr RN Unique 6 gr 1.255" COL
Work great for me in my Bersa Ultra Compact.
March 10, 2013, 04:20 PM
Hodgdon has recently listed quite a few loads for Berry's bullets on their website loading data. Of course they won't have Unique listed, but there are lots of other choices of tested data they've listed.
Hope this helps.
March 10, 2013, 04:35 PM
Fred, do you have a link? I just went to the Hodgdon Reloading center for 9mm and don't see any Berry's plated bullets listed... I'd love to see them referenced by more mfr's.
March 10, 2013, 04:42 PM
All Hodgdon shows in 9mm is a 130 GR. BERB RN.
BERB = Berry's Bullet.
Not sure how they came up with a 130 grain Berry 9mm though???
March 10, 2013, 05:14 PM
I use 6.0 gr unique for the 230' s and 5.5 gr for 124's using jacketed oal data
March 10, 2013, 05:57 PM
Hodgdon has recently listed quite a few loads for Berry's bullets on their website loading data.
At the dismay of Berry's MFG, only 40S&W load data for 155/165/180 gr bullet weights were added for their "regular" plated thickness and not the thicker plated (TP) bullets.
Not much, but enough to give us reloaders much needed verification, especially for higher pressure 40S&W.
Fred, do you have a link?
Here's W231/HP-38 load data for Berry's and JHP for comparison and they are very close and not start-to-mid range jacketed load data (no more guessing!) - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=688509
155 GR. BERB FP W231/HP-38 .400" OAL 1.125" Start 5.1 gr (979 fps) 24,100 PSI - Max 6.0 gr (1130 fps) 33,900 PSI
155 GR. HDY XTP W231/HP-38 .400" OAL 1.125" Start 5.0 gr (937 fps) 22,900 PSI - Max 6.0 gr (1103 fps) 33,000 PSI
165 GR. BERB FP W231/HP-38 .400" OAL 1.125" Start 4.7 gr (933 fps) 25,200 PSI - Max 5.4 gr (1049 fps) 33,400 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP W231/HP-38 .400" OAL 1.125" Start 4.8 gr (946 fps) 28,100 PSI - Max 5.3 gr (1001 fps) 32,500 PSI
180 GR. BERB FP W231/HP-38 .400" OAL 1.125" Start 4.4 gr (872 fps) 26,400 PSI - Max 5.1 gr (984 fps) 33,500 PSI
180 GR. HDY XTP W231/HP-38 .400" OAL 1.125" Start 4.1 gr (797 fps) 23,800 PSI - Max 5.0 gr (947 fps) 32,900 PSI
March 11, 2013, 02:42 AM
RC: Not sure how they came up with a 130 grain Berry 9mm though???
Berry's have 130gr rn and 135gr rn 9mm (.355/.356). I've loaded them and they run fine. They only come with the regular plating. None are "TP"/thick plating, so they can't be loaded hot.
March 11, 2013, 09:49 AM
Most Berry's bullets will tell you on the order page what FPS you should not exceed with that particular bullet. If your reloading manual shows FPS that will give you an idea (you won't be shooting your bullets out of the reloading manual author's test barrel, so your mileage WILL vary). If you start push a plated bullet to fast the plating will release from the core. You will know pretty quick when you have keyholing or shrapnel marks in your target. They do make thick plate versions of their more popular bullets. Those can be pushed closer to max jacketed data.
March 11, 2013, 10:47 AM
The 130 grain and 135 grain bullets are primarily for the .38 Super, but can be loaded in 9x19, though I prefer lighter bullets in that caliber. For most Berry's bullets I use jacketed data and it works just fine.
If you run them at 1,450 fps through your 357 Sig, the regular plated bullets will tumble, and take out the left upright on your chronograph............
Hope this helps.
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