Anyone who Knows Me Knows I am Armed


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WALKERs210
March 10, 2013, 11:16 PM
I live in a small town where the welcome to and come back soon sign are on same post. Think in last survey we had the distinction of being close of 1sq mile. After tornado of Apr 11 we lost 1/3 of city. I still like to be sure that everyone in my area are away that I am arm and will always be. Dec came around and I bought myself a Christmas Present, it's vinyl ploltter/cutter that allows you to design what ever you want and send it to cutter to cut out the design of choice. I am in process of labeling the back window of my vehicle with logo's saying "protected by S&W' Protected by "Ruger" and anything else I fit in, Chief of police in Jasper really liked one I have, it just says "I don't Call 911" Might have to go buy an old windowless van to be able to say all I want to do.

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Rawss
March 10, 2013, 11:46 PM
Thank you.

firesky101
March 11, 2013, 12:23 AM
In your town you will probably be fine, and may just raise awareness of how everyday guns are (and should be), however in my town those stickers would just read follow me home and rob my house.

Dlowe167
March 11, 2013, 12:27 AM
That is great! Thank u too. I want one that says "911 is medical,1911 for all else!"

Hardtarget
March 11, 2013, 12:28 AM
Personally, I don't put any firearm related stickers...in fact, I don't put stickers on my vehicles at all. I don't wear logo clothing either. I just don't advertise anything.

maybe that makes me the wierd one. :uhoh:

Mark

rondog
March 11, 2013, 01:06 AM
I'm with ya Mark. I used to wear nothing but Harley t-shirts until I found out about their campaign to ruin small bike shop owners. Then I figured out "hey, I'm basically advertising for them, and not only are they NOT paying me for it, they're charging me STUPID amounts of money for the shirts! Haven't worn one in years now, never will again.

And when we buy a new vehicle, I won't accept it until the dealers sticker/tag/label/plaque/whatever is removed from the vehicle. I'm not advertising for them either.

mljdeckard
March 11, 2013, 01:07 AM
Some people shake their finger at advertising, but I really think it depends on where you live. The only gun I ever had stolen from a car was an unmarked rental.

Fred_G
March 11, 2013, 01:12 AM
There are a lot of signs and vinyl stuff I would sometimes like to put on my car. But I always try to think of how that might look if I were involved in a legitimate shoot that was before a jury.

AlexanderA
March 11, 2013, 01:12 AM
Ah, the innocence of bucolic America! In urban/suburban areas, it would be foolhardy to advertise that you own guns. Besides the security aspects of that, displaying belligerent statements (such as "trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again") only hurts your legal case if you're ever actually involved in a self-defense shooting.

Frank44
March 11, 2013, 01:19 AM
I love those stickers, but in many places they will bring more trouble than there worth.

WALKERs210
March 11, 2013, 02:31 AM
I do agree with most of what has been said, positive and negative. When I was in my mid 20's maybe early 30's an Alabama Trooper and I stay at a convince / Gas store until the lights came back on due to power outage, and a young girl was the only one there. Will waiting the officer told me that his policy about shooting was to quit firing when the gun started clicking or the bad guy stopped kicking. One nice thing about being out in the stick if you see someone "Not Armed" then they are most likely not old enough to get a carry permit. Many times I have had LEO's tell how to reposition body to insure it looked like the BG was defiantly a threat. Last time I had to use a weapon was while serving in US Navy on small craft, got hit by shrapnel or fragments in right shoulder and neck, I didn't like it one little bit either. I have had to shoot and contrary to what some may say you can still have flash backs and see their face as clear as the day it happened. I just like making my vinyl signs to show support

Davek1977
March 11, 2013, 05:17 AM
The way I see it, *I* need to know I'm armed, not ANYONE else. I don't feel safer advertising the fact, nor do I see any advantage to doing so. I carry a gun for my safety, and letting everyone and their dog know I presently have a gun in my possession serves no purpose. If you are going to advertise the fact you are carrying concealed, you might as well just open carry. I have nothing against open carry, but even doing so, see no reason to draw attention to yourself or your weapon. I'd much rather just be one of the crowd until such time I need to actually draw my weapon. IMO, no one needs to know you are carrying until you need to point your weapon at them....that should be their fist clue that you may be armed. Until such a time a gun is needed, advertising you have one can lead to more problems than it solves.

psyopspec
March 11, 2013, 09:06 AM
Will waiting the officer told me that his policy about shooting was to quit firing when the gun started clicking or the bad guy stopped kicking.

"This is how we deal with deadly threats around here."

Many times I have had LEO's tell how to reposition body to insure it looked like the BG was defiantly a threat.

"This is how we tamper with evidence around here."

I don't call 911.

"This, and my posting it on a public forum, is how I clue the police into my having continued using deadly force after the threat stopped, and then tampered with the evidence."

While it would be nice if certain aspects of the culture you're describing were true, that same culture's suspicion of outsiders is what keeps a lot of small towns shrinking. I was stopped in rural AL; the deputy was much more nervous than I throughout the stop. It was an awkward disarm where I was swept with my own loaded weapon - he reached into my jacket to remove my weapon from a shoulder holster. At the conclusion of the stop, he handed me my gun, again pointing it at me, the empty magazine, and 18 loose rounds. "Now don't go loading these back up until I'm well down the road," were his last words to me.

I can't imagine that stop going any better if my vehicle had been decked out with stickers. But I'm sure to locals he's a very friendly gun-loving public servant.

dodge
March 11, 2013, 11:10 AM
Nobody knows if I'm armed or not, not even people who knows me. Sometimes I carry and sometimes I don't. I like to keep them guessing. People who know me know I own a few firearms but only a couple know what they are.

NavyLCDR
March 11, 2013, 11:19 AM
WALKERs210,

Do you open carry or carry concealed?

Newcatwalt
March 11, 2013, 01:22 PM
I think it's best not to advertise the fact you're armed. It gives the bad guys an advantage and, at the same time, takes away your advantage.

hso
March 11, 2013, 01:28 PM
These days there are much better ways to show support than using some of what is seen out there.

"Ask a vet who's given a leg for their country if they want to be disarmed too?"

"Why would Washington want to disarm a vet that already gave a leg for their country?"

NavyLCDR
March 11, 2013, 01:30 PM
These days there are much better ways to show support than using some of what is seen out there.

"Why is it encouraged for Brinks to protect your money with guards who carry guns, but not our children in schools: which is more valuable to you?"

WALKERs210
March 11, 2013, 01:36 PM
LCDR, I carry both ways, if for some reason I have to go into Birmingham (shudder to think of that) I have more than one weapon and carry concealed. Within a 15 mile radius of home I do both, just depends of what I am doing or going. On side note LCDR give me the idea your ex Navy and reminds me of a high school friend that enlisted right after I did, he went on to retire as a LCDR.

breakingcontact
March 11, 2013, 01:37 PM
I'd like one of these on my vehicle. It covers most everything.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwTtgCCgI12cr47BjTv8jVXDx-t6JHfvw31693AErxrkyv3LpQ6Q

Baldman
March 11, 2013, 01:37 PM
The placards sound nice but I'm not one to advertise anymore. I grew up in a small town in NE PA where gun racks with and without guns in them were a very common sight. No one ever made a fuss and during deer and small game seasons Friday school lunches talked about where are you going to hunt and Monday's were what did you get? We just assumed 50% of the population had guns in their homes and went about our daily business. Now I live outside Philly and although I think I live in a safe and nice area I'd rather my neighbors don't know that I own or what I own. There are just too many people in the area that are gunphobic that I'd rather not deal with, how can you own one, what are you preparing for, are you a Bambi killer, are you carrying one now types of questions when I see those folks in the neighborhood. I own because it is my right, I want to prepared, and I like to shoot, if you are like minded great if not that's fine too but don't judge me or think you know me just because of an object I own. How I miss the near middle of nowhere, unfortunately it's now harder and harder to find.

NavyLCDR
March 11, 2013, 01:47 PM
LCDR, I carry both ways, if for some reason I have to go into Birmingham (shudder to think of that) I have more than one weapon and carry concealed. Within a 15 mile radius of home I do both, just depends of what I am doing or going. On side note LCDR give me the idea your ex Navy and reminds me of a high school friend that enlisted right after I did, he went on to retire as a LCDR.

Current Navy. I open carry the vast majority of the time in Washington state. I just think it would be ironic if you carried concealed despite your advertisements :D

WALKERs210
March 11, 2013, 05:03 PM
LCDR just for a quick reference, I am old Navy wore the cross anchors on my sleeve so it might give an idea as to how hard headed I am. In my time I have locked horns with everyone from boot seaman to Capt. if I knew my point was right, rarely did I ever have to back down. Chief of Staff I worked for told me once he wished he could have the power of a Boatswain mate and pay of Capt. Thank you for your service.

Godsgunman
March 11, 2013, 05:30 PM
Only my close friends know I own guns and few of them know I carry, many don't know. I like to keep it that way. I'm as pro 2A as you can get but I'm not advertising to just anyone. I don't want strangers knowing my business. My advantage is keeping most people in the dark when it comes to my firearm ownership.

Coyote3855
March 11, 2013, 06:09 PM
No one knows I carry except my wife. No stickers on my truck.

chris in va
March 11, 2013, 06:58 PM
I won't even put an NRA sticker on the car. Thieves just LOVE to break into vehicles knowing a gun is in the glovebox.

mljdeckard
March 11, 2013, 07:19 PM
I would reiterate....the only time I have ever had a car broken into and a gun stolen was when it was in an unmarked rental car.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 12, 2013, 02:34 AM
I would reiterate....the only time I have ever had a car broken into and a gun stolen was when it was in an unmarked rental car.

Any vehicle has the possibility to be broken into. Did they break in to namely steal the gun or know something of value was in the car?

mljdeckard
March 12, 2013, 09:19 AM
I suspect they watched me get into the trunk to grab smaller bags to go check into the Luxor. The remaining bag would have been visible. They were after the bag, they didn't know there was a gun in it.

ball3006
March 12, 2013, 01:13 PM
What hardtarget said.............................chris3

buck460XVR
March 12, 2013, 01:26 PM
Anyone that knows me knows I'm armed


Same here, that's why I don 't need to advertise. Let those that don't know me.....guess.



I won't even put an NRA sticker on the car. Thieves just LOVE to break into vehicles knowing a gun is in the glovebox.


Of course they do, but how does a NRA sticker on the bumper tell them that? Seems that to most criminals the odds of a gun bein' in the glovebox of a gun owner would be about the same as that same gun being aimed at you from the front porch, while in reality, the odds are greater for the latter, since most responsible gun owners don't leave guns unattended in the glovebox to be stolen........

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 12, 2013, 02:53 PM
I suspect they watched me get into the trunk to grab smaller bags to go check into the Luxor. The remaining bag would have been visible. They were after the bag, they didn't know there was a gun in it.

Then this is irrelevant to this topic. It wasn't a sticker or lack of a sticker that prompted them to break into the car. They just saw something that looked valuable.

since most responsible gun owners don't leave guns unattended in the glovebox to be stolen........

What am I expected to do when going into work? Leave my home unarmed completely? I don't have the funds to get a lockbox.

mljdeckard
March 12, 2013, 02:57 PM
I believe it is relevant, in that we all need to remember that the presence or absence of gun propaganda neither guarantees nor prevents gun theft from a vehicle.

NavyLCDR
March 12, 2013, 04:07 PM
LCDR just for a quick reference, I am old Navy wore the cross anchors on my sleeve so it might give an idea as to how hard headed I am. In my time I have locked horns with everyone from boot seaman to Capt. if I knew my point was right, rarely did I ever have to back down. Chief of Staff I worked for told me once he wished he could have the power of a Boatswain mate and pay of Capt. Thank you for your service.
It's time we quit acting like the minority in this country and started standing up and being the majority that we are. The anti-gun minority are willing to stand on their soapboxes and push their propaganda at every passerby every chance they get, I don't understand why we are so afraid to be as vocal as they are. There are certainly many more of us than them.

gym
March 12, 2013, 08:08 PM
I was called about a week ago by a friend who I gave one of those stickers, "firearms welcome" and told to remove mine from the glass door because a trooper friend of his told him that the bad guys were walking around making lists of houses with pro gun stickers. This so they may come back at a latter time and steal a gun from a home that probablly had one inside.
I took mine off, thought about taking my NRA sticker off the car, but didn't do that yet.
You have to worry now a days. Dogs, alarm, cameras next.

Certaindeaf
March 12, 2013, 08:12 PM
I just grew a Yosemite Sam moustache. lolz

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 17, 2013, 02:21 AM
I believe it is relevant, in that we all need to remember that the presence or absence of gun propaganda neither guarantees nor prevents gun theft from a vehicle.

I think we already knew that. Theoretically those stickers do increase the chances and it's a solid theory with no way to prove or disprove.

Lex Luthier
March 17, 2013, 09:28 AM
My good friends and colleagues are aware, but most people I am in contact with are not. I do not put stickers on my car or advertise. I carry everywhere but at work. Some of my colleagues appreciate the nuances of our hobby, and those guys like to ask good, productive questions. Others who just want to shoot sideways get a stern reminder that responsibility trumps immaturity.

You never know when someone without boundaries will want to talk about it. I promise it will happen in the most inappropriate place and time and in an immature manner, because abnormal people are everywhere.

Akita1
March 17, 2013, 12:46 PM
Only my wife knows about my CCW; would rather it be a surprise to anyone else. IMHO, signs are invitations, akin to putting the ADT sticker in your window which effectively tells a perp which alarm he has to disable. Having said that, OP's town sounds idyllic compared to where I live.

Prophet
March 17, 2013, 01:09 PM
I have one of these on my van. It's hard for me to hide the fact that I am armed because I spend so much time trying to get people interested and involved.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/EXIST-BUMPER-STICKER-3x9-GUN-DECAL-/00/s/MzQxWDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqYOKnUE49qmmmGhBOZ59Bsl-!~~60_12.JPG

Jamie B
March 17, 2013, 06:41 PM
No stickers, information, weapons, anything discussed or shown outside of immediate family.

Silence is golden.

blarby
March 17, 2013, 06:48 PM
On my truck, I place label cutouts from gunpowder cans on the window- H4895, H335, etc.

Those who know, know. I've had some awesome stoplight conversations :D

On the eco egg we commute around in, only sticker is a leupold sticker.

Again, those who know- know. Those who don't, have no clue.

I'm fine with both :D

wankerjake
March 17, 2013, 09:44 PM
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo33/wankerjake/images_zpsa5153f73.jpg

sleepyone
March 18, 2013, 12:00 AM
I won't even put an NRA sticker on the car. Thieves just LOVE to break into vehicles knowing a gun is in the glovebox.

+1
Also, anti 2A folks have been known to key a vehicle or commit some other form of vandalism when they see a pro-gun sticker.

Conceal carry has a purpose. You pretty much compromise that advantage and draw unneeded attention to yourself, and anyone with you, when you wear pro gun/2A clothing or adorn your vehicle in the same.

biohazurd
March 18, 2013, 12:13 AM
Back home in the dakotas i wouldnt have minded having some gun type stickers on my car. (Though i never did.) But i live in the city now filled with 1000s apon 1000s of gangbangers and other unsavory individuals so i stay incognito.

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