whats gonna be the next surplus import rifles?


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jon1996
March 13, 2004, 02:57 AM
hello,
what is going to be the next surplus import guns? i would like to know, so i can start saving,lol,
later,
jon

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thefitzvh
March 13, 2004, 03:02 AM
Beer... it does wonderful things to grammar


James

Moparmike
March 13, 2004, 03:06 AM
I would pay $10 to see a beer gun that didnt break bottles or get any on my shirt. :D

thefitzvh
March 13, 2004, 03:11 AM
I'd pay 10 dollars...




















for a case of beer right now...


Ok. I'm leaving this thread now, before I get horsewhipped by a mod.

James:neener: :neener:

jsalcedo
March 13, 2004, 07:20 AM
I'm getting worried that the surplus stuff is drying up.

I've got my SKS Mosins, yugo m48, carcano, enfield etc...

It doesn't seem like anything new has come out in the last 18 months.

GD
March 13, 2004, 08:34 AM
For sure there are some German mausers K98k (Russian capture). Also a few more Enfields from a Middle Eastern country and supposedly some .303 ammo. The Russian mosins seemingly are lasting forever. Recently 13000 Finnish M39s came in to a single buyer who has yet to put them up for sale.
Unless the EU bans the export of arms or John Kerry becomes president, I anticipate we will see more imports.

Greg L
March 13, 2004, 10:47 AM
The golden age of C&R is slowly coming to an end. After the 40-50s most nations went to a select fire type of MBR & I don't see those being opened up for importation ever.

That said, I'm sure that the Russians still have millions of rifles (both theirs & captured) in warehouses all over the place, they never threw anything away. And in a more limited way I see other nations occasionally cleaning out their warehouses of their arms, just not in the massive quantities of the Russian arms.

What's next? I don't know but jump on it when it gets here. Today's $90 Yugo SKS will eventually dry up & the prices will go up (the Lee Enfield I bought 8 years ago for $60 would be at least $150 to replace today. Don't even get me started on the $50 Swede Mausers that I passed up on :( ).

Anyway that you look at it though, your checkbook will take a beating for the next couple of decades :D .

Greg

natedog
March 13, 2004, 12:48 PM
Yes, eventually we will see the end of the $90 SKS and $50 Mosin-Nagants, just like the $25 M-1 Carbines dried up a few years ago. FAL, AK, G3, and other parts will remain plentiful for a while (just not completed guns, thanks to Bush Sr.), as will magazines.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
March 13, 2004, 03:49 PM
I want to know where all those 30-06 Columbian Madsens are.

Regards,
Rabbit.

El Cid
March 13, 2004, 09:53 PM
How about some Mexican Arisakas!

Josey
March 13, 2004, 10:02 PM
I suspect FN-49s and sniper variants. The French and their former colonies still have MAS and MAB weapons to sell. I know Spain and Egypt have a bunch of weapons in storage. There might be some interesting stuff show up from the mideast. Israel still has WWII surplus in storage. Central America hasn't stabilized yet. The EU countries haven't divested themselves of their surplus yet. There are thousands of UK small arms that have traditionally been destroyed but, they might see the sense of surplus sales. This doesn't even cover a wide range of police surplus.

Preacherman
March 13, 2004, 10:37 PM
I want to see the South African armed forces dispose of their warehouses full of old stuff. Lee-Enfields by the thousand - many in really good condition! Vickers machine-guns (OK, we'll have to get them registered somehow - most favored nation trading status, maybe? :D ), converted to 7.62mm. NATO. Bren guns - could always convert them to semi-auto. Lewis guns - I remember seeing at least 500 in crates. The list goes on... :D

DMK
March 13, 2004, 10:42 PM
The golden age of C&R is slowly coming to an end. After the 40-50s most nations went to a select fire type of MBR & I don't see those being opened up for importation ever. I agree with this opinion. We'll see a bunch more ex-Warsaw Pact stuff, but that's all "been there done that" for most of us.

Gewehr98
March 13, 2004, 11:15 PM
I'm not so sure I'd want any of those Lee-Enfields that have weathered their years in Afghanistan. Perhaps Gibbs will get them and market them as something truly wonderful.

Maybe there is a cache of Persian Mausers somewhere in Iraq?

There's a batch of Sniders and Martini's coming out of Nepal lately. So maybe there are some other hoardes that haven't been discovered.

Lots of Garands out there, too, but importation of former lend-lease firearms was halted by Slick Willie. Too bad, because it looked like the Haitians had plenty to spare. :(

jsalcedo
March 14, 2004, 01:38 AM
The pistol situation might end up being really nice.

Maks becoming C&R Brownings, colts etc...

Jeff White
March 14, 2004, 02:28 AM
preacherman said:
Bren guns - could always convert them to semi-auto. Lewis guns - I remember seeing at least 500 in crates. The list goes on..

Unfortunately the BATF has a once a machine gun, always a machine gun policy. However IIRC L1A1s were always semi-auto only, sp they should be importable should the Brits ever let them out of war reserve. I'm sure some enterprising inporter would be happy to put thumbhole stocks on them to get them into the country...

Jeff

444
March 14, 2004, 02:33 AM
"I want to know where all those 30-06 Columbian Madsens are."

I have a Columbian Mauser in .30-06, what is a Madsen ? Wasn't that some kind of submachine gun ?

Strings
March 14, 2004, 02:58 AM
When I called and asked the nice people at ATF about rebuilding a Bren, I was told "so long as it can't fire full auto, fine". That was in regards to either a)buying a new reciever or b)welding the old one back together, but with the necessary mods to limit to semi-auto. YMMV...

Josey
March 14, 2004, 03:01 AM
I know that Iraq is replacing their service pistols (BHP) with Glock 19s. Persian Mausers? IIRC, if they are found, the cache would be destroyed in place. The Iraqis boobytrapped most weapons caches and monkeyed with the weapons to create anti-personnel devices. Definitely non-userfriendly!

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
March 14, 2004, 04:38 AM
Madsen M47/ Columbian M1958 Rifle.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/madsen/index.asp

Looks great if everything is as nice as this one pictured.

Regards,
Rabbit.

444
March 14, 2004, 11:23 AM
You got me curious because I know I had seen a machine gun called a Madsen also. There was:
"Although not in widespread use during the First World War, the Madsen machine gun was deployed in 1914 by the German Army in 7.92mm calibre."

As far as the Madsen rifle goes: I will buy one when they come out.
This Columbian Mauser I have is pristine other than a crack in the wood behind the receiver. As a result I have never fired it. I was thinking of working up a very mild load for it to keep from making the crack worse.

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