Best 1858 clone?


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Blackhawk30
March 14, 2013, 04:08 PM
Best 1858 clone?I've always wanted one and with Obama new bans I want to get one while I can.

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AlexanderA
March 14, 2013, 05:31 PM
Uberti.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
March 14, 2013, 06:44 PM
Pedersoli

raa-7
March 14, 2013, 06:52 PM
I hear you on that,there,s a couple I'm going to get while I/we can.I'd like another 1858 NA,with a long barrel,probably a 12" bbl. I have the 8" barreled Pietta, 1858 New Army I'm damn pleased with.For the longest time,I thought that they wouldnt be all that good but I was wrong.I shoot it alot and have not had any kind of trouble with it and it will hit where ya aim it.Oh,I did drill out the nipples just to clean em up a little,but havent had any misfires that I can even think of.It's the most fun to shoot of my revolvers,but I really like shooting them all.:D

BSA1
March 14, 2013, 08:02 PM
For a long time the stock answer is Uberti is the best made imported revolver. However Pietta has improved the quality of their guns a lot and IMHO for $229.00 represents the best buy.

p.s. I know the 1858 was only made with the 8" barrel but the 5 1/2" keeps pulling at me.

Malachi Leviticus Blue
March 14, 2013, 08:23 PM
Armi San Paolo, no longer produced, but plenty on the used market.

kBob
March 14, 2013, 08:24 PM
Well you might read the 1000+ posts on the THR Remington Club and see what answer you get.

-kBob
THR Remington Club Member #152

Olmontanaboy
March 14, 2013, 08:29 PM
Uberti

Old Dragoon
March 14, 2013, 11:20 PM
If you have smaller hand then I recommend the Armi San Paolo\ Euroarms, it is a opy of the smaller framed Remington - Beals Old Arm, Elliots Transition to NMA, Second model(barest of relief at the breech with some NMA refinements, but still the smaller Remington - Beals Frame.
They are my Pistol of choice. They are no longer made new, but there are several ways to find them. Used Armi San Paolo, Euroarms and the unlikely source, Lyman. The Remy's sold by Lyman were produced by Armi San Paolo. There are a few like new ones out there, even though they were made in the 70's. All will use the Conversion Cylinders (R & D,(Taylors is made by R & D) And Kirst) made for Uberti Remy's.
I wish Pedersoli would resurrect the Armi San Paolo/ Euroarms Remy's. They were unique and sadly just now we are becoming aware of just what they copied.

Hellgate
March 15, 2013, 12:19 AM
The "best" is the one that fits your hand the best. Some people complain that the trigger guard whacks their knuckle when they fire the gun so the smaller ASP/Euroarms might not be the best for beefy hands. Uberti is somewhere in the middle size wise with Pietta being the heftiest. Personally I like the Ubertis for their medium size and consistant quality. I've had one really bad ASPs and 3 bad Piettas. The later Piettas are supposed to be pretty good. I bought a 5 1/2" barrelled Pietta for a friend recently (Uberti made some too) and it had a much nicer balance compared to the full size model. The ASP and the Pietta Remingtons are so different in feel that I compare them to the 1851 Navy Colt vs the 1860 Army Colt in grip size and heft. They are way different. I've owned 3 Piettas (all SS), 7 or 8 ASP/Euroarms (SS&Blued), and 2 Ubertis. Still have the Ubertis & 4 ASPs but no Piettas. My hands are not that beefy and the older Piettas I had were crap. The newer Piettas are supposed to be pretty good now.

Dave Markowitz
March 15, 2013, 10:52 PM
I've owned a few Uberti percussion revolvers (all Colts), a Euroarms 1858, and 3 Pietta 1858s. The Piettas were all purchased from Cabela's within the past 5 or 6 years. They are the equal of any of my Ubertis in fit and finish.

The Euroarms 1858 is not nearly as nicely finished as the Ubertis or the Piettas. OTH, my Euroarms Rogers & Spencer is very well finished, accurate, and has become my favorite percussion revolver.

Blackhawk30
March 16, 2013, 01:18 PM
I looked at one at the local gunshow.it said Cabelas on the box.Nice looking gun,never fired.Brass trigger guard.Sights wern't very visible.

Mike OTDP
March 16, 2013, 10:52 PM
In order:
1. Hege Army Match Maximum (made by Feinwerkbau, actually)
2. Pedersoli
3. Pietta Shooter's Model
4. Pietta
5. Uberti

Dave Markowitz
March 17, 2013, 03:58 PM
I looked at one at the local gunshow.it said Cabelas on the box.Nice looking gun,never fired.Brass trigger guard.Sights wern't very visible.

The 1858s at Cabela's are made by Pietta.

fdf
March 17, 2013, 06:31 PM
1. Pedersoli
2. Cimarron
3. Uberti
4. Pietta, dead last

SlamFire1
March 17, 2013, 07:05 PM
Purchased a Pietta M1858. The barrel is so canted that the front sight is almost at 1 OC. The front sight base won't move. Dented it with drifts and it won't move.

Purchased a Uberti M1858, what a nice pistol. Tall front sight was able to file so I got the group centered at 25 yards, was able to drift for windage. Shot well, my impression was that it was as accurate as a modern pistol.

It is my opinion, having talked with Colt at the time, the parts for the Colt Signiture pistols were Uberti with enough polishing, finishing and fitting left to stamp the guns as " American Made".

Hellgate
March 17, 2013, 10:35 PM
Mike ODTP & ftf left out ASM & ASP Remingtons. I've never had an ASM so I can't comment but I'd say the ASPs are about where the SS Piettas are for quality: a pig in a poke. I like the feel and balance of the ASPs but I've had one lemon outr of 7 and for Piettas 3 of 3 for SS Remington NMAs.

zerofournine
March 18, 2013, 07:58 AM
I recently purchased the Cimarron 1858 clone that was specifically engineered for 45 long colt. I think they did a masterful job of building in the extractor and since I didn't need the black powder capability, I think it's a pretty good value since you don't need any extra cylinders. I wan't to get the 38 special version as well.

kwhi43@kc.rr.com
March 18, 2013, 02:48 PM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o127/prizzel/Remimgton45Colt.jpg

robhof
March 18, 2013, 11:00 PM
I would also vote for the ASM, I don't have an 1858, but do have the pocket 31 and several Colt clones from ASM and all were excellent values and shoot straight and handle well.;):cool:

Dellbert
March 19, 2013, 03:42 AM
I have 3Peitta 58s and one Uberti 58 nArmy and I have to say both are very nice but the Uberti is just a better put together gun. Feels good in hand to. I think I want another Uberti 58.:D

damoc
March 20, 2013, 11:36 PM
I have 3Peitta 58s and one Uberti 58 nArmy and I have to say both are very nice but the Uberti is just a better put together gun. Feels good in hand to. I think I want another Uberti 58.:D
well keep me in mind if you need to find a new home for one of those piettas

MCgunner
March 21, 2013, 07:27 PM
I love the 5.5" Pietta, but I'm not going to say it's the "best". It's danged good, all I can tell ya, and I prefer the short barrel for the balance. It's also quite accurate.

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