M1 failure to feed - whast happened?


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GrimerX
March 15, 2013, 12:31 AM
Hello Everyone,

Pardon the grammar, writing this on a tablet and never got the hang of the on-screen keyboard.

Had my first failure to feed on my Garand today. Using surplus M2 (LC 68) pre-packed in the clips.

The cartridge got wedged while feeding (see the pic) -- not sure exactly what happened as I didn't stop to take a look but got it out of there fast. It was round 4 or 5 in the clip. Shot out the rest of the clip and another one just like normal.

Any thoughts from Garand experts out there?

Thanks much,

-Ian

Also, as an aside. I'm back after 7 years to get married and raise kids. WTH. I get why ARs are selling for 3K and one of the local shops is selling .223 in 5 round boxes. I've seen that before. But what's up with the zombies?

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Ash
March 15, 2013, 07:04 AM
Zombies are more PC to shoot than Bin Laden - no guilt.

As to what happened, I can't say other than it's a mechanical device and such things have problems from time-to-time. It may have been a fluke and nothing more.

Reloadron
March 15, 2013, 07:34 AM
Since the rifle fired fine before and after the malfunction I wouldn't worry about it. Since I didn't see the round before the rifle tried to chamber it I haven't a clue but would not worry about it. My best guess is that it was a defective round. Did you load the clip or was it pre-loaded?

Ron

Tempest 455
March 15, 2013, 09:05 AM
Can't say it's the same issue for certain. However, I had the same problem with an old weak clip that did not have enough tension to hold the rounds. Used a "tighter" one and was fine.

cuervo
March 15, 2013, 01:09 PM
When you loaded the clip, that round may have been a little higher than the other ones in the clip.

If you're using clips that came with Greek ammo, some people have reported reliability issues due extra parkerizing on the clip. But, if you've had no other problems, this probably isn't an issue for you.

mookiie
March 15, 2013, 02:28 PM
It could have been an imperfection in the bullet or a problem with the way it was seated. If it happens again before you clear the malfunction take a picture so you can where or on what it was hung up on.

Averageman
March 15, 2013, 03:08 PM
It could have been an imperfection in the bullet or a problem with the way it was seated. If it happens again before you clear the malfunction take a picture so you can where or on what it was hung up on.


I've had the same thing happen with my M1, my conclusion was the surplus ammunition was the issue.
Sometimes, but very rarely that bullet will be just a bit misaligned or very slightly loose in the case. I believe the mechanical action aggravates this problem an d this is the result.

Tempest 455
March 15, 2013, 07:17 PM
When you loaded the clip, that round may have been a little higher than the other ones in the clip.

If you're using clips that came with Greek ammo, some people have reported reliability issues due extra parkerizing on the clip. But, if you've had no other problems, this probably isn't an issue for you.

If fact mine did happen using the HXP Greek ammo pre-loaded on the clips.

rikman
March 15, 2013, 08:53 PM
Clean the chamber, round might have been a bit long....

jr_roosa
March 15, 2013, 11:47 PM
Did the bolt ride partway over the base of the round?

I get that every once in a while, with the case partway headed for the chamber, the bolt wedged into the side of the case, and everything stuck. It usually happens during a rapid fire stage in a match and I have to clear it, fire a bunch too quickly, and then drop the round into the chamber and let the bolt slam it home (the round is usually bent a little) to get the last shot in before the targets drop. Usually results in a terrible score.

I still haven't figured out why mine does it. I've had maybe 4 of those in about 2000 rounds. A few thousand more rounds, and I'll have it rebuilt with a new barrel. Maybe that will fix it.

-J.

murf
March 16, 2013, 12:29 PM
make sure all rounds are fully seated in the en-bloc clip. GIs used to press the tips of the rounds against the side of the stock before loading to make sure all rounds were fully seated (or so i heard). apparently, some stocks still have the little holes in the side from the tips of the bullets.

murf

Roadking Rider
March 16, 2013, 06:33 PM
I'm thinking it was just a bad round from the start if it performed well before and after the problem. It could be that it was not seated in the clip properly.
A good practice to get into with the pre packaged clips is to make sure all the rounds are seated in the clip properly. If you see one that out of line empty the clip by hand and reload it.

If the bolt rode over it and not behind it, it could be the previous round was a little on the weak side and only had enough power to eject the spent round but not powerful enough to send the bolt all the way back thus wedging the round as it came foward. If it happpens again see if you can take a pic of it wedged in the chamber.

jracle
April 2, 2013, 11:29 AM
I had a feeding problem with my M-1 in the past. I replaced the operating rod spring with one that I got from SARCO and the problems was solved.

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