Yep, let's give the cops exemptions to the mag ban


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rduckwor
March 15, 2013, 05:55 PM
http://www.fototime.com/4920D43A9B88E6D/standard.jpg

John! Turn your damn EOTECH around! You're embarrassing us.

RMD

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jerkface11
March 15, 2013, 06:03 PM
So does he point it at his face when he's turning it on and off?

MErl
March 15, 2013, 06:15 PM
do they actually work reversed though? They have no optics so I can see that they might. But you wouldn't want light going out the target end so I can see that they may not.

jerkface11
March 15, 2013, 06:19 PM
No they don't work at all if reversed.

joeschmoe
March 15, 2013, 06:51 PM
Where is this pic from?

rduckwor
March 15, 2013, 06:55 PM
Herkemer, NY standoff.

RMD

blackrussian
March 15, 2013, 07:01 PM
Hi-res picture. The officer with the shotgun - does his hold look odd to anyone?
http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/herkimer3.jpg

ambidextrous1
March 15, 2013, 07:10 PM
Well, I note that his left hand & arm are not up toward the front, where they can stabilize the firearm and also stroke the pump action, if that's what it is.

He's not wearing eye protection, either. I don't think they're shooting much at this stage of the confrontation; if I were there, I'd be eating a sandwich.

oldbear
March 15, 2013, 07:12 PM
Hi-res picture. The officer with the shotgun - does his hold look odd to anyone?
http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-conte.../herkimer3.jpg

Yes it does. And I really want to believe that the photo with the sighting system mounted backwards has been Photo-shopped.

lefteye
March 15, 2013, 07:13 PM
Perhaps it is a bench rest 870. :banghead: Actually, I suspect it wasn't close to shooting time.

JTHunter
March 15, 2013, 07:25 PM
He couldn't pump that shotty anyway - it's resting on the vehicle!:)

ambidextrous1
March 15, 2013, 07:26 PM
The more I look at that pic, the funnier it gets! Notice the third man, all hunkered down, not about to shoot, but with shades and helmet - to protect him from ejected cases, perhaps - but the two guys who are maybe thinking about shooting are bare-headed & without eye protection of any kind. :(

rooter
March 15, 2013, 07:34 PM
Hi-res picture. The officer with the shotgun - does his hold look odd to anyone?

Does a professional boxer walk around the hour before a fight in his fighting stance? Doesn't mean he can't fight.

The next time you encounter a problem you CAN'T handle and are hiding under your bed, clutching your pistol, trembling uncontrollably because something went bump in the night, don't call the police. Somebody wronged you, don't call the police. Somebody stole your car, don't call the police.

jerkface11
March 15, 2013, 07:36 PM
Like we want the guy with the backward eotech to show up to "help us".

Kiln
March 15, 2013, 07:42 PM
Like we want the guy with the backward eotech to show up to "help us".
Exactly.

Also, despite what rooter seems to think, many people who choose to own a gun and take their protection into their own hands don't tremble and hide under the bed when a bad guy breaks in while waiting for the police to arrive.

splattergun
March 15, 2013, 07:43 PM
In the US, unlike other nations, the police are civilians. This fact seems to elude not only the politicians, but the police as well. The police have no greater need, nor no greater right, to arms than any other US citizen.

Fishslayer
March 15, 2013, 07:45 PM
In the US, unlike other nations, the police are civilians. This fact seems to elude not only the politicians, but the police as well. The police have no greater need, nor no greater right, to arms than any other US citizen.

But they're the only ones professional enough... :D

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/THE_Fishslayer/Cool%20Stories/GrayTruck.jpg

jon_in_wv
March 15, 2013, 07:46 PM
The law should apply EQUALLY. If we can't have something neither should the cops.

This picture only shows the sad truth. Most cops are not gun guys. Many don't know the first thing about guns. Yet people will follow what a cop says about guns like its gospel.

jon_in_wv
March 15, 2013, 07:47 PM
In the US, unlike other nations, the police are civilians. This fact seems to elude not only the politicians, but the police as well. The police have no greater need, nor no greater right, to arms than any other US citizen.

I want to use this as a signature line if you have no objection. Its elegant and simple brilliance.

jerkface11
March 15, 2013, 07:47 PM
You don't have to be a gun guy to realize your eotech is just a window frame if it's backwards. Maybe he should read the instructions or something.

waterhouse
March 15, 2013, 08:04 PM
In the US, unlike other nations, the police are civilians. This fact seems to elude not only the politicians, but the police as well.

I've heard this for years, but where does it originate? Dictionaries seem to define police as non-civilians. I just found many online blog entries where people insist that police are civilians, but none of them point to any sources.

Webster's Dictionary:
ci·vil·ian
noun \sə-ˈvil-yən also -ˈvi-yən\
Definition of CIVILIAN
1
: a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
2
a : one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force

Oxford English Dictionary:
civilian
Syllabification: (ci·vil·ian)
Pronunciation: /səˈvilyən/

Translate civilian | into French | into German | into Italian | into Spanish
Definition of civilian
noun

a person not in the armed services or the police force.
informal a person who is not a member of a particular profession or group, as viewed by a member of that group:I talk to a lot of actresses and they say that civilians are scared of them

adjective

of, denoting, or relating to a person not belonging to the armed services or police:military agents in civilian clothes

Origin:

late Middle English (denoting a practitioner of civil law): from Old French civilien, in the phrase droit civilien 'civil law'.

481
March 15, 2013, 08:10 PM
I've heard this for years, but where does it originate? Dictionaries seem to define police as non-civilians. I just found many online blog entries where people insist that police are civilians, but none of them point to any sources.


Depends on who is defining it.

I've seen it put only like the definitions you've provided.

Tommygunn
March 15, 2013, 08:33 PM
I have a AR-15 and a Sig 556 Patrol, both have Eotech on them.

How is it a police officer gets a Eotech, mounts it backwards and gets all the way to what appears to be a real tactical situation without realizing that something ain't workin' right?

Didn't he take it to the range and wonder why there was no pretty red circle with a dot in it?


Where did it go?
Where did it go?
Where the <deleted> has that stupid dot gottin' off to?

buck1032
March 15, 2013, 08:50 PM
And the shot gunner has his booger hook on the bang switch.

joeschmoe
March 15, 2013, 09:10 PM
The next time you encounter a problem you CAN'T handle and are hiding under your bed, clutching your pistol, trembling uncontrollably because something went bump in the night, don't call the police. Somebody wronged you, don't call the police. Somebody stole your car, don't call the police.

Good advice. Get your RIFLE and take care of it yourself. Don't bother with the police.

Steve CT
March 15, 2013, 09:18 PM
Does a professional boxer walk around the hour before a fight in his fighting stance? Doesn't mean he can't fight.

The next time you encounter a problem you CAN'T handle and are hiding under your bed, clutching your pistol, trembling uncontrollably because something went bump in the night, don't call the police. Somebody wronged you, don't call the police. Somebody stole your car, don't call the police.
A professional boxer would always know how to handle a fight. A professional Police Officer should too.

481
March 15, 2013, 09:18 PM
Good advice. Get your RIFLE and take care of it yourself. Don't bother with the police.
I detect sarcasm. :D

Robert
March 15, 2013, 09:29 PM
Yup he's wrong. Good thing it has never happened to anyone here. Ever.

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