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horsemen61
March 16, 2013, 02:18 AM
How and why did say 45 acp get the name "Hardball" and ball ammo how did that start.

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Lost Sheep
March 16, 2013, 03:19 AM
Hardball, a slang term used for full metal jacket bullet pistol ammunition, particularly in .45 ACP caliber


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Shadow 7D
March 16, 2013, 04:00 AM
Because ball is solid bullet, there are grades of bullet lead alloy, and 45APC is old enough to have been originally made in LEAD BALL, which would require it be a HARD alloy. And it comes from an era where Lead bullets were common

Steve C
March 16, 2013, 04:33 AM
Use of the term "ball" to describe a bullet is a holdover from the centuries before the advent of conical bullet design since lead round balls where the primary projectiles fired from firearms. Even the first commonly used conical bullets designed for muzzle loading rifles during the Civil War was called a Mini-"ball". The armed services being a old and traditional institution carried on the term of using "ball" to describe any basic solid bullet. Hard ball was euphemistically used to describe a lead bullet with a "hard" copper jacket.

david_r
March 16, 2013, 07:06 AM
Steve,
I think you might be a bit off on the mini ball history. It was called a Miniť ball. A frenchman developed a rifle and named it after himself. The Miniť rifle was designed to use a conical shaped bullet he developed and called the Miniť ball.

kingmt
March 16, 2013, 09:15 AM
They both sounds good. Story time it's fun. Now we need a camp fire.

345 DeSoto
March 16, 2013, 09:17 AM
...Well, why don't you just SHOOT him for that gigantic mistake...:rolleyes:

303tom
March 16, 2013, 10:30 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini%C3%A9_ball

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