Bedside shotgun box that doesn't cost as much as the gun?


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Melissa2006
March 17, 2013, 12:31 AM
OK, I got my Mossberg 500A persuader for around $250 several years ago, and have since been interested in some quick access bedside storage for it. No kids in the house, nor do we allow them ( we hate kids LOL ) so it just needs to be inexpensive and fast access - no looking for keys or messing with combinations in the dark.

This one looks awfully interesting, but I suspect it costs as much as the gun and they don't have any, which doesn't help:

http://www.secureittactical.com/hm-weapon-storage/FAST-shotgun-box.html

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jim243
March 17, 2013, 12:56 AM
You could just go and purchase storage brackets yourself and install them under the bed for your shotgun.

Jim

Melissa2006
March 17, 2013, 01:02 AM
Wanted a closed box, like above and at the rear of the bed, so as to keep the dust off it.

Panzercat
March 17, 2013, 02:09 AM
Have you considered cutting out the drywall to that length and installing a recessed box with which to store it in? Some hings for a simple door, maybe like those cabinet doors you push so they pop open... The overall depth would only have to accommodate that of the mossy. Owning one I know its not that thick.

Just mental rambling.

Melissa2006
March 17, 2013, 02:23 AM
Prefer not to get into all that. We want this in 2 bedrooms and I'm not a do-it-yourselfer.

Virginian
March 17, 2013, 08:45 AM
I think you are either going to have to become a little bit of a do it yourselfer or pony up the bucks. A friend made a simple wooden box that he bolted to the bottom of the bed.

oneounceload
March 17, 2013, 01:41 PM
http://www.the-backup.com/

not a box, but the sheet/bedspread will keep it hidden and dust free

Melissa2006
March 17, 2013, 03:44 PM
That was one of the first things that turned up in my search. Thanks anyway.

Fred Fuller
March 17, 2013, 03:51 PM
I don't know of any really inexpensive options. If your bed is high enough off the floor, I suppose one of the smallest Homak or StakOn type lockers might fit under there.

The model in the OP seems to be sold out...

There's this - http://www.maximumsecurity.com/safes/pc/Defense-Vault-p303.htm#.UUYR2K64Ys0 but it's listed at $484 on sale...

AMSEC has one, even costlier - http://www.thesafesource.com/category/Under_Bed_Gun_Safes.htm

There's this one for $300 - http://guncasket.com/store/black-shotgun-safe/

hth...

Melissa2006
March 17, 2013, 04:02 PM
Yeah, they're all EVEN MORE expensive than the shotgun and the V-Line Quick Access Keyless Shotgun Safe, which I was already avoiding because it costs as much as the shotgun. If we get 1 for each bedroom, it's $500!

I'm thinking of talking to a carpenter about just making a hardwood box with a flip open lid, that can mount on the wall behind the bed, or even to the side frame.

Fred Fuller
March 17, 2013, 07:04 PM
Did you consider a flush mount wall safe?

http://www.deansafe.com/stack-on-iwc-55-full-length-in-wall-cabinet-rifle-wall-safe.html

Blackhawk30
March 17, 2013, 07:13 PM
How about one of those wheeled under bed plastic boxes that are sold at Wal and other marts in the plastic box area.You usually see these after xmas.

Melissa2006
March 17, 2013, 08:15 PM
Fred, see #4 here.

Blackhawk30: Not sure about wheeled boxes.

Fred Fuller
March 17, 2013, 08:31 PM
Sorry, missed seeing that.

FAS1
March 17, 2013, 08:37 PM
OK, I got my Mossberg 500A persuader for around $250 several years ago, and have since been interested in some quick access bedside storage for it. No kids in the house, nor do we allow them ( we hate kids LOL ) so it just needs to be inexpensive and fast access - no looking for keys or messing with combinations in the dark.

This one looks awfully interesting, but I suspect it costs as much as the gun and they don't have any, which doesn't help:

http://www.secureittactical.com/hm-weapon-storage/FAST-shotgun-box.html

Also feel free to come join my moderated group at
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Defense_Shotgun/


They were selling for $229.00 before they quit selling them. Looking at the door length with just one locking bolt in the center, my guess is that it wasn't that hard to gain access and they quit selling them until they improve the door. I bet it won't be $229.00 if it comes back sometime.

Melissa2006
March 17, 2013, 09:36 PM
Doesn't look all that different from the V-Line Quick Access Keyless Shotgun Safe.

FAS1
March 18, 2013, 11:04 AM
Doesn't look all that different from the V-Line Quick Access Keyless Shotgun Safe.

The Vline uses two keyed locks, one one each end of the door to secure it besides the push button lock in the middle. The problem is that when you lock the ones on the end, it's not quick access any more. Especially in the dark.

btg3
March 18, 2013, 01:14 PM
Not sure about wheeled boxes.
Any under bed storage box -- not necessarily with wheels.

Depending how your Persuader is configured (stock, grip, etc) you may have to modify the box or tape 2 together in a fashion.

Large diameter PVC or 4" drain tile may also work.

Why not just a clam shell plastic rifle case for $20.

Whatever you end up putting it in, there may be a potential for moisture/rust issues. So consider adding some desiccant packets and wipe the gun down with oil.

sota
March 18, 2013, 01:58 PM
I think this is going to be one of those cases of $ or DIY ingenuity. Sometimes you spend more on the "extras" than the initial item. For example... I needed a new air compressor and found a discontinued one for $350 (regular price $800). I spent over $600 on a new air dryer, hoses, fittings, etc. to finish customizing everything. It's just how it is sometimes.

Think of it like this... you got a deal on the shotty, now you have more to spend on security/storage. :)

btg3
March 18, 2013, 05:51 PM
Wanted a closed box, like above and at the rear of the bed, so as to keep the dust off it.
Just re-read that. In other words...
Wanted a closed box, ...above and at the rear of the bed, so as to keep the dust off it.

Perhaps something like a window valance. Just a shelf with fabric stapled to the edge. Tuck the gun behind the fabric.

orphanedcowboy
March 18, 2013, 07:24 PM
You could build a head board with a flip down access door on each side. I foresee a problem reaching above your head, hurriedly and safely. If you put the muzzle to the center, it is facing your significant other, if you face the muzzle out, it is cumbersome to not only reach above your head but towards the center of the bed.

Just my https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-avXPMh-vVBk/UUeTwqSAgQI/AAAAAAAAHIk/7wkrvpC1N74/s58/2cents.gif

Mine has been like this for almost a yr, 10 months for sure, as long as the bed is made, which it is daily, no dust and no one will ever know it is there unless you enlighten them.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YLE7Vj6bs4c/UUeR6trv-YI/AAAAAAAAHIQ/I6CNS2Xj3Jk/s912/Bedside%2520shotgun%2520storage.jpg

Possibly adapt one of these to under bed:

http://terminalsrl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sequence-2-sidebyside.png

MilliradianDOT
March 18, 2013, 07:46 PM
I agree with the plastic clam shell idea but with some modification. Take out the foam on the back side and find some of those peg board hangers to mount to the back. That's as easy as drilling a few holes. Then drill some holes in the top and zip tie it to your bed frame. When you pop the clasps it aught to fall open but the peg board hangers will leave your gun clinging to the back of the case and the zip ties keep it all hooked to your bed. Just what I got off the top of the dome. Whole thing would likely be under $50 but it would yet again require a bit of DIY and would also be ugly as sin.

Melissa2006
March 18, 2013, 08:36 PM
orphanedcowboy: Make the bed? hee hee! Why would I do that, when I'm just gonna sleep in it the next night? :neener:

Anyway, I like the look of that drawer, just gotta see where they sell something like that.

crazyjennyblack
March 18, 2013, 09:27 PM
Hmmm.... why not just put the gun under the covers if you have a large enough bed? :evil: It keeps the dust off it and gives you something to cuddle if you're single.... :neener: oh wait :(

FAS1
March 18, 2013, 10:07 PM
Possibly adapt one of these to under bed:

http://terminalsrl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/sequence-2-sidebyside.png

They seem nice, but I think $1299.00 and up eliminates it from her requirements.

Melissa2006
March 18, 2013, 10:23 PM
O M G! $1299?!

Anyway, I got the idea to Google: underbed drawer shotgun
and found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUYJmLaUA-g

VERY interesting, just need to find who sells it!

Arp32
March 18, 2013, 10:44 PM
I'm sure you've seen the cartoon "cheap, easy, good: pick any two..."

In my last apartment before I bought a house, I mounted two "C" clips under the bed with the top of the C between the mattress and bed slats. The shotgun slipped between the bottom of the slats and the lower part of the clip. Being tight to the underside of the bed, it was invisible unless you had your head down at floor level.

It wasn't "secure", but it was concealed, easy to access, cheap, and dust was never a problem.

btg3
March 18, 2013, 10:50 PM
IMO, that video looks like somebody's DIY project. But perhaps I'm wrong and you will be able to buy it.

Melissa2006
March 18, 2013, 11:14 PM
Arp32: Sounds like a good way to get scraped by a vacuum pipe when someone vacuums.

Deer_Freak
March 18, 2013, 11:45 PM
I just prop my gun up beside the bed. When a little dust gets on the shotgun it's time to clean the gun. When we leave or have kids over I just lock the shotgun in the safe.

Arp32
March 19, 2013, 01:04 AM
Arp32: Sounds like a good way to get scraped by a vacuum pipe when someone vacuums.

What's a vacuum?

Melissa2006
March 19, 2013, 02:47 AM
A vacuum is what you use to get dust out from under a bed that never gets "made". :neener:

Blue Line
March 19, 2013, 01:31 PM
http://www.shotlock.com/Details.asp

$169

---------------
http://santacruzgunlocks.com/setups/complete916-1-b.html

$195

lemaymiami
March 19, 2013, 07:48 PM
I gave this same topic a bit of thought recently... I thought that the best cheap solution was pair of generous hooks at the rear of the headboard (or bedframe) that would allow me to place shotgun in a soft case where it was very accessible but out of sight. Stored in the soft case dust and dirt wouldn't be a problem but keeping the popper in the case would eventually cause some corrosion problems if you didn't keep the metal carefully lubed and dried. When needed, the entire case and weapon are pulled free, the case shaken away and you're ready for business.

My last thought on the topic was about the grandkids.... The shotgun would definitely need locking down when they were around. That problem I haven't solved at all.....

Melissa2006
March 19, 2013, 07:56 PM
That's an interesting idea. Now by soft case, you mean like a soft shotgun carry case?

The hooks can be easily gotten from Home Depot. I did that when I hung my kwan dao on my bedroom wall. :)

lemaymiami
March 20, 2013, 10:15 AM
Absolutely, a soft cloth case with a simple flap closure. In the years when I wasn't in a marked vehicle (with that standard electric lock on the dashboard) my shotgun slept in the trunk, fully encased in a soft cloth cover. No matter how many times I needed to take it out, that cover was only a moment to remove and kept the weapon at the ready until needed. I also used one of those old Vietnam era soft cloth M-16 bandoliers (the kind meant to hold 8 or 10 twenty round mags). Each pouch held a box of five 12ga rounds with the bottom cut out of the box so each five rounds were kept in new condition. In use, I'd pull the cardboard box then have five rounds at the ready. That bandolier went over my shoulder and was never in the way no matter what was happening at the time. Luckily it was never needed...

Since I worked the streets in south Florida during the height of the party (1973 to 1995...) -coming up against superior firepower was always a possibility. I thought long and hard about my arms and what might be needed... Glad I'm long out of that world.

Sheepdog1968
March 20, 2013, 11:36 AM
I never found anything myself when I looked into it. I just bit the bullet and spent more on the safe than shotgun.

Deer_Freak
March 20, 2013, 12:55 PM
The gun racks that go in the window of a truck are inexpensive. They can be cut to the desired length and they are less likely to skin your gun up than a metal hook.

People if your going to own a gun you need at least a lockable metal cabinet. A 24 gun cabinet is $175. If you put it in a closet a thief will have a hard time prying it open. It also provides you with a place to secure medications and sensitive papers.

The Sentry cabinets are far better than the Stack On safes. I can pry a Stack On safe open with an Eastwing hammer.

btg3
March 20, 2013, 01:04 PM
Pehaps you are referring to an Estwing hammer. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you know your gun cabinets better than you know your hand tools. ;)

TAKtical
March 20, 2013, 01:11 PM
I keep a benelli propped up in the corner. If it gets dusty, clean it. They also make little plugs that go in the end of a barrel to keep dust out but I never used one. This seems like a lot of work just to avoid cleaning your gun once a week which you should do anyway. Moisture in the air causes more problems than dust. If its not getting packed up properly for long term storage, you need to be cleaning it or lubing it once a week or every other week.

Melissa2006
March 20, 2013, 07:10 PM
We're in Denver so moisture isn't a problem. ;-)

gpjoe
March 21, 2013, 08:04 AM
My wife didn't want a shotgun hanging from hooks on the side of the bed (me either), so I just attached some hooks to the back of our headboard and the shotgun hangs there. I'm sure it'll get dusty, but I don't care.

Regarding access - I can reach over the headboard and grab it pretty quickly. It's still faster than being in a box or in the closet, though possibly not as fast as having it propped up in the corner of the bedroom or attached to the side of the bed.

IlikeSA
March 21, 2013, 08:40 AM
One of these http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/classic-old-west-styles-leather-shotgun-scabbard.aspx?a=931975

plus

some deer antlers or wooden hooks

equals

something not pretty, not urban, but keeps the dust off and hangs above the bed. You could also hang it off the post at the ends or top of the bed.

PabloJ
March 21, 2013, 12:21 PM
OK, I got my Mossberg 500A persuader for around $250 several years ago, and have since been interested in some quick access bedside storage for it. No kids in the house, nor do we allow them ( we hate kids LOL ) so it just needs to be inexpensive and fast access - no looking for keys or messing with combinations in the dark.

This one looks awfully interesting, but I suspect it costs as much as the gun and they don't have any, which doesn't help:

http://www.secureittactical.com/hm-weapon-storage/FAST-shotgun-box.html

Also feel free to come join my moderated group at
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Defense_Shotgun/
Get rid of the shotgun and buy handgun in suitable caliber if you don't already own one.

btg3
March 21, 2013, 01:09 PM
Get rid of the shotgun...
That's just wrong. :confused:

Melissa2006
March 21, 2013, 07:25 PM
Really! :p

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