Lyman GPR kit recently?


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tomykay12
March 17, 2013, 01:58 PM
Hi. Anyone put together a GPR kit lately? How's the quality? I have one on the way and am wondering what to expect here. Thankyou, tk

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mykeal
March 17, 2013, 02:12 PM
My latest one is 4 years old; is that recent enough?

Quality was very good to excellent. Two problems: the tang screw hole in the stock was slightly off to the back, and the screws provided for the wedge escutcheons were worthless. Both 'problems' were easily corrected. Oh, and I wasn't thrilled with the touch hole location once I got the tang screw hole fixed, but it's proven to be a non-issue as it's very reliable.

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tomykay12
March 17, 2013, 04:10 PM
Hmm, read a build thread on another forum from 2011; the stock was pretty screwed up, inletting and warpwise and Lyman was a pain to deal with. just wondering, and a moot point as I have already pulled the trigger. I am versatile so can probably deal with most issues the kit presents. Thanks, tk

Steel Horse Rider
March 17, 2013, 05:33 PM
A lot of the screws were close to worthless in the Dixie Kits I have bought but I simply went to Ace Hardware and purchased brass screws with the proper head type and made a much nicer looking gun in my opinion. I haven't tried a Lyman kit yet, who are they made by? My Dixie kits were both Pedersoli and I was impressed by the quality other than the screws.

EljaySL
March 17, 2013, 05:48 PM
I'm in the middle of doing their great plains *pistol* kit, and other than a delay due to Lyman being backed up no real surprises. The wood is nice. They've covered every last inch of the barrel with warnings. I'm sure they have the occasional stinker but I wouldn't be too concerned.

@Steel Horse Rider. I believe some of the text on the barrel says they're made by Investarms in Italy. Lyman imports them, and they're sold by practically everybody (Dixie, Track of the Wolf, etc. etc.)

tomykay12
March 17, 2013, 10:13 PM
Yep, Investarms, another company in the Italian blackpowder valley of no return, lol, tk

tomykay12
March 18, 2013, 02:12 PM
Well, I guess it shipped, so I will give it a good look when it arrives and let this post know what for, lol, tk

Bullwinkle
March 18, 2013, 03:04 PM
I built a percussion GPR in 50 cal last December. It's a great kit for someone with no prior experience, like me.

It went together surprisingly well. Minimal inletting was required. The stock was decent and looked pretty gun after Min Wax stain and a Tru Oil finish. The most tedious part for me was browning the barrel which took multiple applications of Laurel Mountain Forge browning solution over the course of several days. You can of course choose to cold blue the barrel, but it's not
nearly as durable nor authentic looking as cold browning.

There are a lot of good tips on "The Muzzleloading Forum" under the Gunbuilder's Bench section. Check it out the members are very helpful!

The GPR is a great shooter! Only problem I've had is one of the wedge pins keeps falling out.

I wish you success with your kit.

fdf
March 18, 2013, 06:31 PM
GPR's are all over the map on quality, whether it be a kit or finished gun and wedge pins are a problem.

Seems for something which cost that much, quality should not be a problem.

Would you pay that much for a Winchester or Remington and complain about parts not fitting, I think not.

mykeal
March 18, 2013, 07:49 PM
fdf: I presume you have one or more GPR's so you can provide your experience, like the OP requested. Please, provide away.

BTW, there is a very simple fix for a loose wedge pin. Consulting the source provided by Bullwinkle will explain it.

fdf
March 19, 2013, 09:41 AM
On a percentage of GPR's the triggers can only adjusted so far and if you are not happy with them, they have to be replaced with Davis triggers. The set screw between the triggers is often undersized and too short to work.

The escutchen screws break very easy.

With the design of the cock, it often requires a 1/8" piece of leather be placed under the flint to get it at the proper angle.

The vent liner either has to be drilled out or replaced with one from RMC.

In some areas to much wood was removed.

In all actuality, since the buyer is paying $500 or so, depending where you get a kit or completed rifle,
I would expect higher standards.

Since Lyman is buying in Europe, have they heard of IOS 9001 and non-conformance (ISON's) for defects?

How many U.S. fire arms are shipped with instructions on how to bend and put in wedge pins as they are shipped as defective? T/C never did need to do so.

Seems buying a GPR finished in good shape is a challenge, how come?

loose noose
March 20, 2013, 05:36 PM
I got the kit about the end of summer last year, it has beautiful wood and I put a patchbox on the stock. I browned the barrel and all the steel hardware, and it came out absolutely fantastic. I posted some pics here when I started and when I finished up. I was totally pleased with the results.:D Further the accuracy and the set trigger are very simple to set up. The ignition is very fast, no complaints at all. I'm sure if you do a search you'll be able to come up with all the particulars.

Rudedog
March 20, 2013, 05:53 PM
My .54 flint kit is a few years old and the tang slot in the stock was not aligned properly and had to widen it and use wood epoxy to bed it. I also relieve the wood and bed under the breach area.
Those previously mentioned wedge escutcheon screws are weak so use a little wax on them which will help them screw in without snapping.
My lock would not spark enough to fire the rifle until about 30 attempts. Overall I do like the rifle and for what I paid, it is well worth it.

tomykay12
March 21, 2013, 01:17 PM
The kit came yesterday; fast shipping and service from Hinterland Outfitters, thankyou, Nice piece of wood and everything seems to line up ok. I'll look at it harder over the weekend and take a pic or two for anyone interested. Despite the negatives mentioned, this seems like a cool way to introduce oneself to traditional "styled" BP rifles. I can turn this box o stuff into a nice piece, tk

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