Firearms Used In Newton (From CT Government)


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BulletArc47
March 18, 2013, 11:40 AM
Not sure if this has been posted but this list from Connecticut government confirms what firearms were used during the Sandy Hook massacre.


http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284



** UPDATE **

STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION;
INVESTIGATION CONTINUES

In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene.



Seized inside the school:

#1. Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine



#2. Glock 10 mm handgun



#3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun



Seized from suspectís car in parking lot:


#4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun (seized from car in parking lot)



The shooter used the Bushmaster .223 to murder 20 children and six adults inside the school; he used a handgun to take his own life inside the school. No other weapons were used in this crime. This case remains under investigation.

Lt. J. Paul Vance




Once again I apologize if this has been posted already.

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rondog
March 18, 2013, 11:44 AM
That's actually THE FIRST "official accounting of the guns involved" that I personally have seen! Thank you. Much better than just media BS that nobody knows is true or not.

ClickClickD'oh
March 18, 2013, 11:45 AM
That's the January press release, so not exactly new, but it does prove an point that needs hammering home.

This information, and much more like it, has been circulating internally amongst police departments, government agencies and select private organizations.

I've been trying to suggest this to people on here, and other places, for a while so that they won't be building their forts on false information such as " The AR was never used, we saw it on tv in the trunk"

I hope everyone realizes there is more that is still confidential. *wink* *wink* and all that.

CoRoMo
March 18, 2013, 11:45 AM
To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify...


Seized inside the school:

#1. ...with high capacity 30 round magazine
That is both confusing AND misinforming as that is a 'standard' capacity magazine.

But I digress.

jerkface11
March 18, 2013, 11:47 AM
Wait only one mag for the AR? That doesn't add up with the claims that some victims were shot a dozen times.

Inebriated
March 18, 2013, 11:53 AM
Wait only one mag for the AR? That doesn't add up with the claims that some victims were shot a dozen times.

That's what I was thinking.

Tirod
March 18, 2013, 12:11 PM
The report details the weapons, not the accessories. Or even what brand shoes he was wearing.

Wait for the full report and work from facts - as best as we can expect. It's still a point that legislation is trying to be passed as quickly as possible to take advantage of the public's attention. The facts, however, are really unimportant to most. The average voter doesn't have a clue, anyway. If they did, the press would have been shouted down on the use of the phrase "assault rifle" years ago, and the AWB never even attempted.

What Lanza did or didn't use inside the school has, unfortunately, very little impact on how the public supports new laws. It's your voice writing to Senators that might be tempted to vote for a ban that counts.

Steel Horse Rider
March 18, 2013, 12:12 PM
I found the wording describing the magazine as "high capacity" interesting also. Seems like something that would have been inserted by someone with an agenda. I wonder if the Sig or the Glock had "high capacity" magazines also?

sleepyone
March 18, 2013, 12:14 PM
Thank you. I have been wondering about this also.

alsaqr
March 18, 2013, 12:15 PM
According to the post of a state trooper on the scene, Adam Lanza fired over 150 rounds from the Bushmaster. Then there is this:


Lanza changed magazines frequently as he fired his way through the first-grade classrooms of Lauren Rousseau and Victoria Soto, sometimes shooting as few as 15 shots from a 30-round magazine, sources said.

More than a week after the shooting, investigators were still finding bullets under doors and in carpets and walls in the school as they tried to match the casings to the magazines.

Investigators are aware that frequent reloading is common in violent video games because an experienced player knows never to enter a new building or room without a full magazine so as not to risk running out of bullets. This has led them to speculate privately that this might be a reason that he replaced magazines frequently.


http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/adam-lanza-update-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooter-wore-earplugs-investigators-say

Carl N. Brown
March 18, 2013, 12:27 PM
Like Hungersford, Dunblane and Port Arthur there will be tons of questions officially unanswered, but one thing known for sure: these atrocities are used to call for taking guns from millions not involved in the crimes.

skimbell
March 18, 2013, 12:39 PM
"Wait only one mag for the AR? That doesn't add up with the claims that some victims were shot a dozen times."

Thats what I was thinking. To hear the MSM on the subject you'd believe that Lanza had a wheelbarrow full of mags.
Now only One? That doesn't pass the smell test.

Also, I guess that I was wrong about the AR being in the trunk. I remember in one the of first news clips seeing a cop taking what appeared to be an AR out of the car's trunk. I just looked up the Izhmash Canta and it looks enough like an AR in a quick film clip that I'm satisfied that I was wrong.

desidog
March 18, 2013, 01:45 PM
^What image are you referring to?

I think "Canta" looks pretty close to the cyrillic spelling of "Saiga." And most all Saiga-12's don't look much like AR's, especially in CT, where if it had been restored to regular AK ergonomics, it would still need a thumbhole stock to be legal; since it takes detachable mags and has a threaded muzzle, OEM.

blackrussian
March 18, 2013, 01:47 PM
Saiga = САЙГА=CANTA

Robert
March 18, 2013, 01:57 PM
We have covered this a few times already.

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