Ruger 10-22


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Allen in MT
March 20, 2013, 09:09 AM
Looking at getting a bull barrel for the 10-22 and have a couple of questions
What is the optimum barrel length? I see they go from 16" to 20".

who do you consider the best barrel manufacture for accuracy?
Is it really worth it to change barrels for accuracy or is more of a looks thing?
thanks

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Fishbed77
March 20, 2013, 09:21 AM
16"-18" for a .22LR. I went with an 18" bull barrel for my 10/22 project.

20" does nothing for .22LR.

cat_IT_guy
March 20, 2013, 09:23 AM
I think I recall seeing somewhere that 16" (or right around there) provided the maximum velocity for most .22 rounds. You dont lose much (anything noticeable, really) by going longer though.

I have Green Mountain barrel. Its not super top end. Kidd has an outstanding reputation but would have cost 2-3x what my GM did. A lot of guys change barrels for looks, a lot do it for the added accuracy. I'd ask what you want to do with it - do you want a bench gun where weight isnt a factor and you want to shoot little bitty groups? Then a bull barrel is probably for you. If, on the other hand, you want an accurate little squirrel shooter, sending your factory barrel off to Que (https://sites.google.com/site/quesplace/) or CPC (http://www.ct-precision.com/ruger10-22.html) to have them improve the chamber is probably all you need (about $40 by the time you pay shipping) to get the accuracy you want.

Magoo
March 20, 2013, 09:31 AM
I say anything longer than 16" is just adding weight. You might want that if you're building a bench gun but not so much for any other reason.

Kidd barrels (coolguyguns.com) are consistently rated pretty high with 10/22 folks. Lilja and Shillen usually get highest marks along with their higher price tags. Fedderson barrels are fairly new to the scene and seem to be performing well. I don't know much about VQ and Clark offerings.

It depends how bad your factory barrel is as to wether or not it's worth replacing. Some are pretty lousy, some ain't so bad. Quality control on such a massively produced gun just isn't that tight.

Your accuracy would likely be more affected by working on things like the trigger, bolt, and bedding assuming your barrel isn't too bad.

ETA: I've got a 16" Kidd bull barrel, a 16" fluted tapered Green Mountain, and a Que reworked factory barrel. I can't tell the difference in accuracy if shooting them offhand. Shooting off the bench the Kidd really shines.

Just for another Kidd fanboy comment- Kidd's barrels are often touted as shooting "any" ammo well. Not needing to buy super duper match grade ammo while chasing small groups is a good thing.

desidog
March 20, 2013, 12:30 PM
20" does nothing for .22LR.

Well, it does a lot more than 16" if you're using iron sights... and it's a bit quieter to boot.

That being said, OP, go for a 10/22 barrel with the 16.5" - with longer you might notice a decrease in velocity. of course, the twist rate matters too. If you're shooting mainly HV ammo, then 1:16 but if you only shoot subsonics, go 1:9. And as you can guess, a 20" 1:16 vs a 16.5" 1:9 will get you disparate results, so thinking about you're intended use and intended ammo helps, but once you buy it and install it, you'll have to try it with any and every brand and type of .22lr ammo you can find to get best results.

Fishbed77
March 20, 2013, 02:53 PM
Well, it does a lot more than 16" if you're using iron sights... and it's a bit quieter to boot.

A 20" bull barrel for a 10/22 is not going to have iron sights (at least I have never seen a 10/22 bull barrel with a front sight).

Magoo
March 20, 2013, 04:25 PM
Tech Sights sells a slip/loctite-on dove tail adaptor for bull barrels. I've actually got one sitting around here somewhere if anyone needs one.

tuj
March 20, 2013, 04:27 PM
20 is optimum for max accuracy. Ask Kidd.

20" does nothing for .22LR.

So how come the top benchrest rifles in the country are all 20"?

bamajoey
March 20, 2013, 04:58 PM
Take a look at the Lilja barrels. I have one on a CZ and love it.

aubie515
March 20, 2013, 11:48 PM
If, on the other hand, you want an accurate little squirrel shooter, sending your factory barrel off to Que (https://sites.google.com/site/quesplace/) or CPC (http://www.ct-precision.com/ruger10-22.html) to have them improve the chamber is probably all you need (about $40 by the time you pay shipping) to get the accuracy you want.
It's going to cost more than $40 from Que and CPC, but keep on telling people that...not to mention Que isn't even taking on any new work.

CarolinaChuck
March 21, 2013, 12:14 AM
As I recall, the charge is spent by 16 inches; so that is all you would need for a full pop. 18 or 20 inches may balance better if you're looking to use the rifle for off hand and were not going max fat on the barrel. I have a prone 22 LR with a 26 inch 7/8 full lenght tube; great shooter with peep sights, but a hand full to off hand.

The advantages to a full size barrel are they have a long distance between front and rear sights, and they are rock steady in a prone/bench rest position-your pulse with a shooting coat/glove/sling is not going to move the point of impact/aim without you seeing it.

Scoping a with a long target scope followed that same thinking. Shorter barrels and modern target scopes get away from that school of thought by being easier to hold in the off hand steady and balance better.

In a sense, there is no free lunch and there are trade offs for going down your path for you as the shooter, and what you are trying to accomplish.

Chuck

Allen in MT
March 21, 2013, 08:58 AM
Thanks for the replies, mainly looking to build a good accurate critter gun, something up to the 100+ yards for both off hand and from a bagged rest. Should be able to hit a nickle size target consistantly at 50 yards if thats possible.

ECVMatt
March 21, 2013, 11:12 AM
I would look at the Kidd 16" Lightweight barrel. I buddy just put one on his 10/22 and it will shoot nickles at 50 yards all day long.

mdauben
March 21, 2013, 12:08 PM
Looking at getting a bull barrel for the 10-22 and have a couple of questions
What is the optimum barrel length? I see they go from 16" to 20".

who do you consider the best barrel manufacture for accuracy?
Is it really worth it to change barrels for accuracy or is more of a looks thing?
thanks
You might also want to take a look through RimfireCentral.com . They have a whole forum dedicated to just 10/22 aftermarket barrels. ;)

cat_IT_guy
March 21, 2013, 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by benatilstate
If, on the other hand, you want an accurate little squirrel shooter, sending your factory barrel off to Que or CPC to have them improve the chamber is probably all you need (about $40 by the time you pay shipping) to get the accuracy you want.

It's going to cost more than $40 from Que and CPC, but keep on telling people that...not to mention Que isn't even taking on any new work.

I stand corrected, Que is $55 to rechamber. He is not taking work due to a family situation. I have not checked on CPC's price but I suspect it is in the same ball park.

In the future, responses with corrected info, rather than merrily pointing out that another member is wrong, are much more useful to the OP.

ECVMatt
March 21, 2013, 05:32 PM
You might also want to take a look through RimfireCentral.com . They have a whole forum dedicated to just 10/22 aftermarket barrels. ;)
+1 to this suggestion. That is a great site for the 10/22

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