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bikemutt
March 23, 2013, 01:25 PM
Wondering what others here might us to clean their cans? The 22 can I just picked up is easy to disassemble but jeez does it collect carbon.

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nosmr2
March 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
I used CLP, gun scrubber and a ton of elbow grease on my 22 aluminum can the first time. That was for the birds, took forever. After that I upgraded to stainless baffles and a rotary tumbler. The upgrade was $99 and the tumbler was $250 or so. Now it's almost work free.
I didn't want to have a can that I wouldn't shoot because it was too much of a hassle.

Thermactor
March 23, 2013, 03:17 PM
Considered using an ultrasonic cleaner?

bikemutt
March 23, 2013, 03:43 PM
Considered using an ultrasonic cleaner?
I had not, but now I have, thanks. I see Harbor Freight has one for $30 and they have a store 10 minutes from me.

Thermactor
March 23, 2013, 04:10 PM
The $30 cleaner has a tiny cleaning area. I recommend the $77 one (currently marked down from $99). Use a 20% off coupon and its $60. Very happy with mine.

Dave Rishar
March 23, 2013, 04:37 PM
For stainless, I like to use "the dip." While it's quick and very effective, it's potentially dangerous, will eat up certain metals, and generates hazardous waste that must be disposed of properly. Research and good work practices are required before going this route.

My Osprey just gets soaked in Ed's Red and then blasted out with brake cleaner, as per the manufacturer's advice. I've thought about getting an ultrasonic cleaner but Silencerco doesn't seem to think that it's necessary, so I'll take their word for it.

wally
March 23, 2013, 05:25 PM
Cans like the Osprey that should only see jacked bullets shot through them don't really need a lot of cleaning.

But .22lr cans are a whole 'nother story! Depending on how much the lead buildup interferes with disassembly, could need cleaning after every 2-300 rounds. That is why I went with the sparrow -- usually good for about 1000 rounds between cleanings.

Captains1911
March 27, 2013, 10:18 AM
It might be helpful if you tell us what can you have.

bikemutt
March 27, 2013, 10:55 AM
It might be helpful if you tell us what can you have.
Huntertown Arms Guardian 22.

The baffles have about 60 rounds of Federal bulk .22lr though them. This is how they look after several cycles in the ultrasonic cleaner in a heated dish soap solution.

http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr338/hcedmondson/20130327_073840_zps09d259bd.jpg

nosmr2
March 27, 2013, 11:42 AM
Are the baffles stainless steel or aluminum?

bikemutt
March 27, 2013, 12:39 PM
Are the baffles stainless steel or aluminum?
Aluminum.

Also, mine came without a user manual so I went online and found this:

Cleaning
Clean the baffles. This can be done by hand with a nylon brush and some Hoppes #9 or any other gun cleaning solvent. DO NOT USE ANYTHING WITH AMMONIA IN IT ON YOUR GUARDIAN 22! You'll screw up the finish. Spray your baffle and gently brush the lead and other contaminants from the baffle. Do the same with the tube. The more lead that is on you baffles and tube the harder they will be to clean. The least labor intensive and most thorough way to clean your baffles is to lightly bead blast them. Remember, your Guardian 22 suppressor is made of aircraft grade aluminum. While robust, it can be damaged if abused.

nosmr2
March 27, 2013, 01:32 PM
I purchased the same suppressor last year and picked up this January for $199. I took it out the first time and shot about 200 rounds through it. It was filthy, I assume about as dirty as yours. It took me 2 hours of CLP, gun scrubber and elbow grease to get it almost as good as new. I spent several days looking for an easy cleaning solution on the internet forums. I could not find a good & easy way to clean the aluminum baffles. Tumbling them with stainless media in a wet tumbler would wear them down (or so the consensus believes), a regular tumbler won't do anything but make the black shiny, the dip can't be used on aluminum, etc. Some like the ultrasonic cleaner, but I see you've been down that road.

I was a bit mad at myself for not over-researching this purchase as I do most things. But Huntertown Arms will do an upgrade to your baffles from Aluminum to Stainless for $90 or $99. I emailed them, got the answers I was looking for then finally called. I gave the lady my info and credit card information, then shipped the whole thing up to them via the post office. In about a week a had the whole thing back with stainless baffles.

I know it sucks to have to pay another hundred bucks, but it is what it is. I reload so I went ahead and upgraded to a rotary tumbler to clean it in. I throw the baffles in with Dawn, 5 lbs of stainless pins and leave it alone for several hours. Then I rinse and reassemble. It's totally painless. This solution was another $250, but screw it. If you don't have the extra money to spend or don't need a wet tumbler do some research on "The Dip." It looks like a cheap cleaning solution but has a few drawbacks and will not work for aluminum.

Like I said earlier, I didn't want to have a toy that was so much of a hassle to clean that I wouldn't use it. PM me your email address if you want some before and after pics.

Captains1911
March 27, 2013, 05:09 PM
Be careful with ultra sonic cleaner, it can damage aluminum if you over do it.

ETA: with raw aluminum you're better off not trying to be too aggressive. An overnight soak in odorless mineral spirits, followed by a nylon brush and maybe plastic scraper of some sort should be enough. You don't need it spotless, just remove the chunks. There's no magic cleaner for raw aluminum unfortunately.

wally
March 27, 2013, 10:11 PM
some Hoppes #9 or any other gun cleaning solvent. DO NOT USE ANYTHING WITH AMMONIA IN IT ON YOUR GUARDIAN 22!

I hate it when owners manuals are wrong! Hoppes #9 has ammonia in it! which is why it eventually eats up your brass brush and copper fouling comes out green. Read the label or MSDS (ammonia in aqueous solution = ammonium hydroxide), about 3% by weight.

bikemutt
March 28, 2013, 11:54 AM
I think they mean not to use ammonia on the anodized parts, like the end caps and the tube.

Loc n Load
March 30, 2013, 08:16 PM
Hoppes can be harsh on metal and finishes....if you leave nickeled gun components in it over night....they will not be nickeled in the morning. So it stands to reason that it may damage certain alloys or finishes.

bikemutt
March 30, 2013, 10:58 PM
I hit the range Thursday with a bud, we both let the 22/45 and 10/22 feed the can real well. Once home I dropped the baffles in Hoppes #9 for 10 minutes or so, then dropped them and the end caps into the ultrasonic cleaner filled with a Dawn solution for 2 x 480 second cycles. At the end I was able to wipe off each baffle to a condition indistinguishable from where it started.

It doesn't look new and it isn't, I'm good with it.

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