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Julian537
March 24, 2013, 08:36 PM
I have been looking for a Hollywood Gun shop Senior press. I have seen two in the last two weeks, sell on ebay. They sold for $350 plus. Is this the going rate for one because they are antique and highly sought after, or because of the current craze.

I know, that anything costs, as much as anyone is willing to pay.

Thank you,

Julian

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ReloaderFred
March 24, 2013, 09:39 PM
They've regularly been selling for around $200.00 on the auction sites, if in good condition. It seems there has been a renewed interest in the Hollywood presses recently. I have two of them, both Hollywood Seniors. The first one is the press I started reloading on in 1963, when I bought it used. It's the smaller of the Seniors. My second one is a recent addition, and is the taller Senior press with the tie bar for bullet swaging.

Hope this helps.

Fred

PS: They're not for sale.............Sorry.

Joatmon
March 24, 2013, 11:36 PM
Seems like the prices for the Seniors has about doubled since the panic really got started. I have the Hollywook universal turret and the senior turret, they are good presses. When you see one make sure to find out if the press is iron or aluminum. They made both configurations and this can affect the value. Also they were made in a short and taller version, another thing to check on. Be patient, you will find one (hopefully for a price you are willing to pay).

Julian537
March 25, 2013, 12:51 AM
I was set to pay $250, I did not realize they would go for as high as they did. I like the design. If I cannot get one for a reasonable price, before the RCBS Summit comes out, I think I will go with it. I like the design behind both of them. They are open in the front, unlike an "O" shaped press. They also are above the bench. They do not have to hang over the edge. I already have a dillon 650xl, I am just looking for a good single stage press, to do some small batches of rifle rounds. 30-06, 7mm mag. I really like the nostalgia of the Hollywood and it's robust qualities.

LeonCarr
March 25, 2013, 09:28 AM
Julian537,

Have you looked at the Redding T-7?

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Julian537
March 26, 2013, 12:53 AM
I had not looked into the Redding T7 until you mentioned it. It is interesting, but I am not looking for a turent press. I also want a press, that does not hang over the edge of the bench. This is the reason I am looking at the Hollywood senior and the new RCBS Summit.


I got a lead today, on two Hollywood presses that are local to my area. The guys is supposed to send me pics later this week.

Julian537
March 26, 2013, 01:07 AM
One more thing, he said that one of them took larger dies. 1-3/8" i think is what he said? Are there bushings to reduce this to the regular 7/8" dies

ReloaderFred
March 26, 2013, 01:56 AM
Yes, they made bushings for those presses. The larger diameter was for loading shotgun shells and .50 BMG.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Otto
March 26, 2013, 02:17 AM
As I understand it, some Sr's were made from cast aluminum but most were made from steel. My Sr. is steel. Maybe someone else can chime in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/Leander/P7280294.jpg

fiftybmg
March 26, 2013, 03:13 AM
If you just want a great single stage press, and are prepared to pay that much, look at an RCBS Ammomaster. That's worth making changes to the bench.

LeonCarr
March 26, 2013, 04:44 PM
Sorry Julian, I thought for some reason the Hollywood Senior was a turret press.

Looks tough as nails.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Julian537
March 26, 2013, 06:00 PM
Otto, That is what I want!

LeonCarr, I am under the impression, that they also called the tall hollywood with a turret on top a Senior, also. Or Universal.

John3921
March 26, 2013, 11:32 PM
Wow, what a nice, hell for stout looking press. I've never seen one before.

John

John3921
March 26, 2013, 11:45 PM
No idea of their quality or pros-cons - but Ponsness Warren makes a 'metallic II' press that is above the bench. It looks to be about the same framework as their shotshell progressive presses - buts its an in-line semi-progressive single stage press.

http://www.reloaders.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_26&products_id=56

And a metalmatic press that looks to be a similar design as the PW375C shotshell single stage loader.

http://www.reloaders.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7_26&products_id=57

Kevin Rohrer
March 27, 2013, 01:24 AM
You aren't going to find one on EBay for <$300. The Juniors go for less, but they are awkward to use.

That press in the left is a CH 444. It might be more in your ballpark.

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Reloading/IMG_0470.jpg

Julian537
March 27, 2013, 07:09 PM
Kevin,
What is that press on the far right side of your bench? It is only partially visible in the picture.

ReloaderFred
March 27, 2013, 08:15 PM
This is what the taller Hollywood Senior press looks like with the tie bar for swaging: http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m606/ReloaderFred/th_BulletSwaging003-1.jpg (http://s1134.photobucket.com/user/ReloaderFred/media/BulletSwaging003-1.jpg.html)

My press was being used for swaging .44 caliber bullets when the picture was taken.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Kevin Rohrer
March 27, 2013, 10:01 PM
What is that press on the far right side of your bench?

One of two Dunbars, both restored by me.
http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Reloading/IMG_0471.jpg

Edarnold
March 28, 2013, 03:09 AM
Also a strong top of workbench press is the CH 'magnum' H-style
Was made from around 1955 onward, may be back in production(?)

Kevin Rohrer
March 28, 2013, 08:28 PM
Also a strong top of workbench press is the CH 'magnum' H-style
Was made from around 1955 onward, may be back in production(?)

That would be the '444' in message #15. It is all-steel and really nice. My only complaint is that the lever isn't that long and doesn't exert bunches of leverage when trying to FL resize MG cases.

Julian537
March 30, 2013, 05:35 PM
I have a question about some of the older presses. Many of them seem to lean back a few degrees. Was or is there a specific reason for this? I see that most of the newer presses just go straight up and down.

Julian537
March 31, 2013, 12:20 AM
Kevin,

I just saw a Dunbar sell on the bay. They look stout. Solid steel. Nothing cast.

SlamFire1
March 31, 2013, 09:54 AM
Besides looking very Steampunk, what are the other advantages of a Hollywood Senior over a Rockchucker or Redding T-7?

tightgroup tiger
March 31, 2013, 10:12 AM
http://www.rcbs.com/

Have you looked at RCBS's Summit. Midway says they will be selling it for $209.00 when they get them in stock.

It's along the same lines as the single stage Holywood.

Kevin Rohrer
March 31, 2013, 11:16 AM
I just saw a Dunbar sell on the bay. They look stout. Solid steel. Nothing cast.

The base is sand cast iron. The rest is machined steel.

Kevin Rohrer
March 31, 2013, 11:25 AM
Besides looking very Steampunk, what are the other advantages of a Hollywood Senior over a Rockchucker or Redding T-7?

Steampunk. Never thought about them in that manner, but it is a good, one-word description. I'll have to get a set of welder's goggles and a leather flying cap to hang off it. ;)

As for the advantage of the Senior over the other two:

Senior vs RC: the former is a lot smaller and sets on top of the bench as opposed to hanging below the bench and getting in the way.

Senior vs T7: Apples vs oranges to a certain extent as one is a single-station vs a turret. But the T7 also hangs below the bench. The Senior is also more compact and probably stronger.

The Senior is the smallest press I own, but one of the strongest.

Kevin Rohrer
March 31, 2013, 11:29 AM
I have a question about some of the older presses. Many of them seem to lean back a few degrees. Was or is there a specific reason for this?

None of my presses drink, so they never lean. :evil:

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv29/KevinRohrer/Reloading/IMG_0622.jpg

Jim Watson
March 31, 2013, 11:40 AM
I have not used any press older than my 1971 Rockchucker with the RCBS compound leverage linkage, so help me out. I see that all the presses here, although they may be hell for stout, have simple toggle linkages.
How is the effort on the handle for heavy work like big case full length sizing or bullet swaging versus an RCBS or post patent copy?

ReloaderFred
March 31, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jim,

If you look at the pictures of the two different size Seniors in posts #9 and #17, you can see there are two sets of holes in the toggle link. By moving to the mid position holes on the link, the leverage is greatly increased. I don't know what the ratio is, but the difference is very noticeable. In post #17, with my bullet swaging die installed, I'm able to swage out the solid base of a .40 S&W case to .429", from the original .424". I'm not able to do that with the holes at the end of the link that are for regular reloading, and my Rockchucker won't do it, either.

I've also mashed the shell holder slot on my Rockchucker swaging bullets, which RCBS replaced for free, even though I told them I damaged it myself. I can do more heavy work with the Hollywood, without damaging it.

Another upside with the larger Senior press is I load .45-120 Sharps, which is a 3.250" long case. None of my other presses have an opening large enough to be able to seat a bullet without slipping it up into the die and holding it in place with a finger, while I slide a case into the shell holder. With the large Senior, I can load those rounds as normal.

Hope this helps.

Fred

Offfhand
March 31, 2013, 05:19 PM
I was watching the the eBay bidding today for a Hollywood Sr. It sold for $227.51. I hope someone on this forum who wanted one got it, even though the seller was adding $50.00 for shipping, which was a bit greedy. As mentioned in above comments, a redeeming feature of the Hollywood press is that it sits flat on top of shelf. Which makes it convenient to use as a bookend.

Julian537
March 31, 2013, 06:59 PM
Kevin,

I was referring to older presses in general. Not the ones in your picture. I see some CH, Pacific, Redding, RCBS, etc that have a slight lean to them. They lean back a bit. Is there any reason for this? It seems like the newer presses all go directly vertical. Rock chucker for instance or lee press.

Richr57
July 29, 2013, 10:22 PM
Hello now to this site. I just found 2 Hollywood Seniors and a C4H press.
Looking for an assembly manual. One of the Hollywoods needs to be cleaned up. But all 3 mechanically work great!
CH4D sells a shellholder adaptor for them and hopefully should arrive soon.
I liked my Rock Chucker but the Hollywood Senior is massive. I was also looking for the new RCBS Summit but it looks like I won't need it.
I started reloading over 40 years ago but never heard of a Hollywood. What a find. I don't want to say how much all the reloading equipment sold for but sometimes you find a real bargain and I did!
Oh not interested in selling any of the presses for now.

Kevin Rohrer
July 30, 2013, 08:04 PM
I don't know of anyone who has a manual, as there is not much to them. Disassembly can be a minor problem, though. I have taken mine apart, and can help you out. What do you need?

If you goto the CH/4D site, they have an online parts drawing of the '444', which I also own. Does it need cleaning?

photosaurus
July 30, 2013, 08:53 PM
Kevin, I'm just as impressed with your library as your presses.

fguffey
July 31, 2013, 02:14 PM
Reloaderfred,

SAID:

"I've also mashed the shell holder slot on my Rockchucker swaging bullets, which RCBS replaced for free, even though I told them I damaged it myself. I can do more heavy work with the Hollywood, without damaging it"

Reloaderfred, on page 11 in your RCBS Special Order Catalog RCBS offers a Rock Chucker with a bullet swage ram, for those that have the regular ram RCBS offers the bullet swage ram for $75.00 +/- a few. I do not know about RCBS but other manufacturers offer bullet swaging shell holders.

Other manufacturers, I have bullet swaging shell holders for Herter's presses.

The shell holder for swaging does not have a primer hole, the RCBS ram does not have a primer cut in the top.

F. Guffey

fguffey
July 31, 2013, 02:40 PM
Julian537,

ASKED a question:

I was referring to older presses in general. Not the ones in your picture. I see some CH, Pacific, Redding, RCBS, etc that have a slight lean to them. They lean back a bit. Is there any reason for this? It seems like the newer presses all go directly vertical. Rock chucker for instance or lee press.

Julian, there are reasons, I have no less than 11 presses that lean back at the top, and out from the bottom, of the 11 I have one that came with a factory detent. It has a hole drilled through the frame and into the ram, a spring loaded ball/detent is secured with a screw to contain the spring that holds the ball. Purpose? The detent holds the ram in place when the handle is up.

Without the detent and the kicked back ram at the top the handles would be impossible to operate the press without 3 hands.

Then there is cam-over. All of my lean back at the top press are cam over presses, The cam over when adjusted holds the ram at the top, The RCBS A2 type presses require two hands to lover the ram when adjusted for cam over, one hand on the press, the other on the handle, exception? The RCBS A2 is a stand up straight ram press.

After that there are unique difference in design that go un-noticed.

Many Herter presses were modified by adding a detent.

F. Guffey

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv241/fguffey/022-2.jpg (http://s688.photobucket.com/user/fguffey/media/022-2.jpg.html)

ReloaderFred
July 31, 2013, 02:53 PM
fguffy,

I knew about the RCBS solid ram, but the press is still made from cast iron, whereas the very first RCBS press was made from cast steel, and was really intended for bullet swaging. The Rockchucker is fairly light duty when it comes to swaging bullets.

I've since purchased a Corbin CSP-1 Swaging Press that is specifically made for bullet swaging, so the Rockchucker is back loading ammunition and notching cases for swaging. My large Hollywood Senior is still set up for bullet swaging, too, so those needs are pretty well addressed. My smaller Hollywood Senior is still set up for loading ammunition, but most of the loading is done on the Hornady LNL, since volume is the need in some calibers.

You have nearly as many shellholders as I do!

Hope this helps.

Fred

fguffey
July 31, 2013, 05:10 PM
ReloaderFred, I should have know you knew, but on the outside chance there is one reloader that did/does not know, I did not want to miss them.

Almost as many? had I thought that was the way you perceived my effort. I would not have wasted my time posting. I have the Herters two ram press, two shell holders are required.

F. Guffey

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