45-70 Contender reload info


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ZX10Aviator
March 25, 2013, 12:45 PM
Picked up this cool pistol yesterday, need to reload for it, anyone doing this and have a pet 300gr reload they would share?

Not looking for a huge bullet and massive recoil, Just a fun to shoot yet will work for some hunting reload.

Thanks!

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highlander 5
March 25, 2013, 04:23 PM
I can't advise you on a load for your Contender but I can tell you that I fired one in 45/70 with 300 gr factory loads and it was not my idea of fun. After 3 shots my wrist and elbow were screaming "I quit".

ZX10Aviator
March 25, 2013, 04:24 PM
dang, dont know whats different, but mine is easy to shoot, even the wife likes it.

eldon519
March 25, 2013, 04:31 PM
If you just want fun loads, Unique is popular for downloading for plinking or cowboy shooting.

I think with the Contender you are supposed to stick to original pressure limits as for a Remington Rolling Block.

JohnM
March 25, 2013, 05:47 PM
If you're reloading the 45-70, the Lyman #49 is handy.
It gives loads from the original trapdoors on up through the Ruger #1 including a special section for T/C Contender and Encore.

ZX10Aviator
March 25, 2013, 05:48 PM
ordered some dies and 300gr bullets. Looks like people just use a standard large rifle primer, and some IMR4198.

JohnM
March 25, 2013, 05:54 PM
Some? You need to know just how much "some" your Contender can handle.
With a 300grn jacked HP 36grns of 4198 is listed as max.

ZX10Aviator
March 25, 2013, 06:11 PM
Yep, I was going to start a little less, but 35-37 is what Ive read people using in them.

Thanks

stargeezer
March 25, 2013, 06:17 PM
I load them with black powder under lead 235gr sized to .456.

fallout mike
March 25, 2013, 10:50 PM
You do NOT want to shoot some of my 300gr handloads through that thing.

ZX10Aviator
March 25, 2013, 10:54 PM
probably not, I want to match the factory 300gr ammo, its perfect.

Blind Dog Jake
March 26, 2013, 07:19 AM
This may help you, they are all cowboy action loads.
http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

I also shoot the Tc Contenders, in about eleven different calibers.

With the 45-70 Unique works well for lite loads.
On the link some loads are under 10 gr. of Unique I personally have never loaded less than 11 gr. in the Contender.
My deer hunting loads are made using 2015 br or Varget and 400 gr. bullets moving at a bit over 1200 fps. out of a 15 inch barrel.
Hope this helps.

ZX10Aviator
April 1, 2013, 12:41 PM
Ok, shot a few of the 300gr JHP with 36gr of IMR4198, shot good, felt lighter than the factory 300gr ammo I was shooting, anyone compare factory to handloads on a chrony for curiousity sake?

I also get a lot of unburnt powder in the barrel, factory loads and handloads about the same, normal for these short barrels?

Dthunter
April 4, 2013, 01:40 PM
Unburnt powder like you are describing usually indicates pressures too low for the powder to burn completely.

Try using a heavier bullet (with an appropriate powder charge).
Or a faster burning powder to get more complete combustion.

In my world, if the accuracy and velocity are sufficient, who cares about a little unburnt powder?

ZX10Aviator
April 4, 2013, 01:45 PM
I dont care either, even the factory ammo leaves powder in there. I was just curious about it.

I loaded up a few at 36.5 and two at 37gr to see how they do.

LeonCarr
April 4, 2013, 03:24 PM
Wear shooting gloves and elbow pads. Even when Mag-Na-Ported and with Pachmayr grips the .45-70 Contender or Encore is a beast.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

ZX10Aviator
April 4, 2013, 03:57 PM
Thanks. Mine shoots like a .44mag, I figured it would be worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh7a0LkVsB4&list=UULqx43LM26ksQ_THrEZ7AcQ&index=3

ZX10Aviator
April 5, 2013, 10:20 PM
Ok, chrony'd it today, not sure what to try..

Factory ammo is running 1530ish, Ive tried 36.5 and 37gr of powder, cant get any more speed, it averages 1250-1260fps with the 300gr bullet. Do I need a tighter crimp?

ZX10Aviator
January 5, 2014, 11:46 AM
ok, bumping an older thread here for info for future people looking. Finally found a powder that works right, Hodgdon H322! with a 300gr bullet, 54grains was pushing it 16xx, Ill probably back it down to 52gr which was mid 1500fps range, but we will see how it does for accuracy.

One handed with 56 grains of H322

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1wo0cQahsc

Bush Pilot
January 5, 2014, 12:08 PM
Thanks. Mine shoots like a .44mag, I figured it would be worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh7a0LkVsB4&list=UULqx43LM26ksQ_THrEZ7AcQ&index=3
That isn't saying much, even with reloads I find the .44 mag T/C unpleasant to shoot.

klausman
January 5, 2014, 01:46 PM
I have shot 300 grain lead bullets with loadings as low as 7 grains of Unique and as high as 12. None of that should be bad in a TC. (I used a rifle.)

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